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  • Mr Handicapable
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-23-07
    • 6067

    #106
    Larry Bird built the Pacers...they're all <27 except West....George is the most talented and just turned 23 in May.

    Mac4Lyfe knows more hoops than Larry Bird.....why are you here? GMs of NBA teams make massive dineros
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    • bjb7223
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-03-12
      • 10349

      #107
      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
      Did Reggie Miller ever play for Indy or does he have a man crush for the Heat? All he does is give credit to the Heat. He's so fukking annoying as an announcer.
      unbiased member of the media
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      • bjb7223
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-03-12
        • 10349

        #108
        wtf refs
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        • Git Lo
          SBR MVP
          • 02-20-11
          • 3785

          #109
          lol @ people thinking indy had a chance because it went to game 7
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          • Mac4Lyfe
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-04-09
            • 48384

            #110
            If you think 13/10 is eating someone alive then more power to you. 7 footers should be producing much more than that too me.

            The league has been depleted of big men. Hibbert should be dominating the game but he's not. Could you imagine him going up against Ewing, Olajawon, Moses, Shaq, etc.? He wouldn't do shit.

            There's a lot of quality big men coming out in this draft and several in the next 2 years. We'll see how he does moving forward but he's going to really struggle against athletic bigs in the future.

            Go look at Hibberts production when he plays a quality big this year. He was owned most nights. How many times did he lead his team in any statistical category (scoring, rebounding, assist, etc.). Dude has been average. Nothing earth shattering.

            Originally posted by Mr Handicapable

            Dude you need to do more research. HIbbert also ate Tyson Chandler alive.....supposedly one of the best defensive Cs in the game. Big men take longer to develop and he's kind of sensitive guy too...got the max contract and thought about living up to it too much for most of the 1st part of the season. Atleast he cares unlike Bosh for most of this series. He's developed nice hooks with either hand and he's progressing. I see something like 17/9 next year. He's a good kid and hard worker.....name 3 centers better than him. Dwight Howard never worked hard enough to develop any real moves and can't shoot fts for shit. Hibb is like 78% for the season so once again Mac sleeping on the job.
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            • Vinnie Paz
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-27-12
              • 12177

              #111
              Cmon indy backdoor this bitch for all us degen fukks!
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              • Vinnie Paz
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-27-12
                • 12177

                #112
                Nevermind phone got the score all wrong
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                • Mac4Lyfe
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-04-09
                  • 48384

                  #113
                  Larry Bird sitting on his couch eating cheetos just like I am right now.

                  He bailed as soon as he had the chance.

                  Who cares that Indy players is <27. Hibbert ain't getting more athletic. Indy ain't going to handle the ball any better, they not going to stop turning the ball over any less. Vogel ain't going to get any smarter, the team IQ ain't getting an better.

                  We're seeing tonight what we will see in the future. A Pacer team that lacks overall athleticism and skill. They may need to recall Bird and get him to reorganize this team.

                  Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                  Larry Bird built the Pacers...they're all <27 except West....George is the most talented and just turned 23 in May.

                  Mac4Lyfe knows more hoops than Larry Bird.....why are you here? GMs of NBA teams make massive dineros
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-04-09
                    • 48384

                    #114
                    Refs aren't even trying to be subtle. They're ramming their dicks in deep on these Pacers tonight. No vaseline...
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                    • Menses
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-15-13
                      • 2755

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                      Going too far? Did you see Indy this year? This Indy team can't beat Chicago (even when Rose didn't play), they can't beat Brooklyn (who will be significantly better next year), they can't beat Boston (even at their old age). Indy struggled against Milwaukee and Toronto this year for God's sake. Miami played the worst they could play in this series and still won games. They're not beating Miami any time soon.

                      Add teams like Atlanta and NY, who we don't know how they will look and up and comers like Washington and Cleveland and Indy is on the outside looking in.

                      Hibbert falls to the floor 2 more times... LOL
                      I dunno man...they definitely have problems on the road...and obviously turn the ball over a lot.....but take away those 2 things..and they are in the finals...not sure about next year...but as of right now.......they are 2nd in the east....I like Miami..root for them....but heat barely got out of this one........
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                      • Walulu
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-20-10
                        • 1123

                        #116
                        Funny things is there were a lot of people who liked the Pacers and believed Miami was overmatched. Tonight we saw what the Heat can do when they want too. When the Heat reorganize the pieces after this year they would be wise to get some strength down low.
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                        • Git Lo
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-20-11
                          • 3785

                          #117
                          I didn't know Hibbert was this unathletic until today (never watch Indy games), I even heard people saying he was a no show during the regular season. Mac telling it like it is though
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                          • Mr Handicapable
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-23-07
                            • 6067

                            #118
                            Whatever Mac.....Paul George isn't athletic. Say what you want its easy to do now. Answer this though...what matters more the playoffs or the season. HIBBERT KICKED THE $HIT OUT OF TYSON CHANDLER>>>END OF STORY. Ask any Knick fan if I'm wrong. Hibbert isn't great...will never be great but he's pretty decent. A nice piece of a talented young team. Indy has no bench to speak of...get Granger back. Get a ball handling point that can break a press. Move Hill to sg....HIbbert and Granger off the bench and you'll see something. George will be the leader. Once again...everyone else can see the nice job Bird did but you. I heard it all from NY fans...how talented they were....til they got rolled.

                            Another stupid Ass comment from you...."Hibbert isn't going to get any more athletic" The guy is 7'2"....is he supposed to be an gymnast out there too? Who is that tall that is so athletic. Howard is 7' but can't post anyone and cant shoot fts. Who else? THERE IS NO ONE AND NEVER HAS BEEN. I never saw young Jabbar play....maybe him? DRose won't be 40% of Paul George next year or ever. WHo else is on your world beating BUlls team that would destroy Indiana?
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                            • Mr Handicapable
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-23-07
                              • 6067

                              #119
                              Mac don't know shit. Tells me how bad Vogel is and how I'm a Pacers homer but then does NOTHING BUT MAKE EXCUSES for Miami getting taken to 7. Indy doesn't even have a bench. How does a shit team with a shit coach go 7 with overworked starters against a deep/talented/veteran team like Miami?

                              ANswer = they don't

                              Vogel is pretty good and he'll be better with a bench and a point guard while Miami just gets older.
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-04-09
                                • 48384

                                #120
                                They were 49-32 in a WEAK, WEAK, WEAK, WEAK eastern conference where half the teams were tanking before the All Star break. The are not the 2nd best team in the East. They avoided Chicago, Brooklyn, and Boston who would have all beaten them.

                                The Heat played as bad as you can play as a team and still won this series. Wade and Bosh were ghosts and all the other guys couldn't hit the ocean. Look how bad the Heat played in this series. Any team with a pulse would have put them away. Indy losing game 1 is proof enough. Poor coaching and average play.

                                Originally posted by Menses
                                I dunno man...they definitely have problems on the road...and obviously turn the ball over a lot.....but take away those 2 things..and they are in the finals...not sure about next year...but as of right now.......they are 2nd in the east....I like Miami..root for them....but heat barely got out of this one........
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                                • Mr Handicapable
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-23-07
                                  • 6067

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                  Larry Bird sitting on his couch eating cheetos just like I am right now.

                                  He bailed as soon as he had the chance.

                                  Who cares that Indy players is <27. Hibbert ain't getting more athletic. Indy ain't going to handle the ball any better, they not going to stop turning the ball over any less. Vogel ain't going to get any smarter, the team IQ ain't getting an better.

                                  We're seeing tonight what we will see in the future. A Pacer team that lacks overall athleticism and skill. They may need to recall Bird and get him to reorganize this team.
                                  lol....why ever come back next year. Just fold up the team. Nobody ever gets any better in the NBA..especially a young team with young guys missing last years leading scorer
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                                  • Mr Handicapable
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-23-07
                                    • 6067

                                    #122
                                    Yeah they would've all killed INdiana. Boston would've owned them. Thats why NY beat them in 6 and then got rolled by indy in 6. Still waiting on my Chicago answer. WHo do they have thats better than the Pacers? The coach...give you that...guy is hard as hell but Vogel is getting there. Rose IF he comes back might be 40-50% of what George is at 4-5" shorter. James to George is the same as George to Rose. Who else? Noah? Good scraper....thats about it? More role players? Indy has more talent and ANYONE will tell you that. WHo else? Brooklyn? They're still the fkn NJ Nets....I like Lopez and thats about it. They have so much heart they couldn't beat a CBA team in Chicago's scraps.
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-04-09
                                      • 48384

                                      #123
                                      I've been saying it all series. I didn't start tonight. What are you talking about? You argued with me all series and kept mentioning that Indy was winning games??? You think Hibbert kicked Chandlers ass when he averaged 13 points and 10 rebounds? That's weak sauce for a big man.

                                      Funny you mention Dwight Howard. Are you trying to compare Hibbert to Howard?? Now Howard is what I would call kicking someone's ass when he's played against Slow Hibbert. Even playing hurt he's held Hibbert to jack shit scoring and rebounding. Go look at the stats . Oh I forget, you don't look at stats because if you did you wouldn't be so homerish.

                                      Indy had a good run. Lucky run but good in the end. But your are kidding yourself if you think they are on the up. Like I said, they got every benefit you can get this year. The old Ron Artest Indy was much, much better than this team prior to the brawl.

                                      Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                      Whatever Mac.... Say what you want its easy to do now. Answer this though...what matters more the playoffs or the season. HIBBERT KICKED THE $HIT OUT OF TYSON CHANDLER>>>END OF STORY.

                                      Another stupid Ass comment from you...."Hibbert isn't going to get any more athletic" The guy is 7'2"....is he supposed to be an gymnast out there too? Who is that tall that is so athletic. Howard is 7' but can't post anyone and cant shoot fts.
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                                      • Mr Handicapable
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-23-07
                                        • 6067

                                        #124
                                        Still waiting on the CHicago roster breakdown? How are these teams better. ANYONE will tell you personnel wise Indy is EASILY 2nd best in the east but break it down for me sometime with your expertise.
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-04-09
                                          • 48384

                                          #125
                                          How many times did Indy beat Boston or Brooklyn this year? I'll help you, you don't need to use any hands or fingers because they went 0 for.

                                          A healthy Chicago team will absolutely abuse Indy. That is an ugly matchup for the Pacers. Chicago can play Indy's game a lot better. The good thing is that we shall see very soon. Next year will be right around the corner. I'm not going anywhere, you ain't going anywhere. We shall see who's right. Indy will be at best a 5th seed next year in the east. Watch...

                                          Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                          Yeah they would've all killed INdiana. Boston would've owned them. Thats why NY beat them in 6 and then got rolled by indy in 6. Still waiting on my Chicago answer. WHo do they have thats better than the Pacers? The coach...give you that...guy is hard as hell but Vogel is getting there. Rose IF he comes back might be 40-50% of what George is at 4-5" shorter. James to George is the same as George to Rose. Who else? Noah? Good scraper....thats about it? More role players? Indy has more talent and ANYONE will tell you that. WHo else? Brooklyn? They're still the fkn NJ Nets....I like Lopez and thats about it. They have so much heart they couldn't beat a CBA team in Chicago's scraps.
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                                          • Mr Handicapable
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-23-07
                                            • 6067

                                            #126
                                            If the Pacers are too stupid and untalented to get better then HOW DID THEY LOSE THEIR LEADING SCORING AND MAKE IT FARTHER THAN LAST YEAR? Huh...super super lucky I guess considering what a dum fk VOgel is. Brooklyn who LITERALLY COULDNT BEAT A CBA LINEUP IN CHICAGO...wouldve killed them. See ya next year chump
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                                            • Mr Handicapable
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-23-07
                                              • 6067

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                              How many times did Indy beat Boston or Brooklyn this year? I'll help you, you don't need to use any hands or fingers because they went 0 for.

                                              A healthy Chicago team will absolutely abuse Indy. That is an ugly matchup for the Pacers. Chicago can play Indy's game a lot better. The good thing is that we shall see very soon. Next year will be right around the corner. I'm not going anywhere, you ain't going anywhere. We shall see who's right. Indy will be at best a 5th seed next year in the east. Watch...
                                              who cares about the regular season in the NBA...thats your first mistake. They also expected Granger back so roles were kind of messed up for a while. He did come back for a few game in the middle. You have to be the same exact type of guy the great white shark avatar guy is. Been arguing with that @$$hole for 3 weeks about Paul George. I put up his stats compared to the greats at 23 and all he says is thats potential and means nothing. Never mind he's most improved. He's 3x better than anything on the Bulls. I will admit Vogel has some growing to do...not sure why we play it so slow all the time. Big men clear the boards...throw it to fast men like George, Stephenson, and HIll. We could have alot of easy buckets on the break against most teams....just not Miami.
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                                              • Mr Handicapable
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-23-07
                                                • 6067

                                                #128
                                                One last one Mac....I'm no doctor but I do know Rose's pet move...the jumpstart puts a TON of pressure on the knees and feet. NOt to mention how his refusing to play will mesh with the other guys. I'll bet you whatever you want that they don't come within 5 games record wise...and make it no farther in the playoffs
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                                                • Git Lo
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-20-11
                                                  • 3785

                                                  #129
                                                  Who cares about the regular season? come on son... thats how you get a good feel of the playoffs, your not winning this argument guy
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48384

                                                    #130
                                                    ^ You haven't heard me say one bad thing about Paul George or George Hill. I think they both are quality players for Indy. I'm not trying to dump on Indy but they are not there yet plain and simple. You like their future, as a fan you should. I'm not as optimistic. I'm a realist. The Pacers are not as young as you believe. Granger is 30, West is about to be 33. That's 2 of your starters on the back end of their careers. Hill is 27, probably peaked as a player. Hibbert will be 27 and peaked as well. So George and Lance Stephenson are the two pieces that can probably improve.
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                                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-04-09
                                                      • 48384

                                                      #131
                                                      I'll take that bet in a heart beat and I'm no Chicago fan BTW...
                                                      Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                                      One last one Mac....I'm no doctor but I do know Rose's pet move...the jumpstart puts a TON of pressure on the knees and feet. NOt to mention how his refusing to play will mesh with the other guys. I'll bet you whatever you want that they don't come within 5 games record wise...and make it no farther in the playoffs
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                                                      • Mr Handicapable
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-23-07
                                                        • 6067

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                        ^ You haven't heard me say one bad thing about Paul George or George Hill. I think they both are quality players for Indy. I'm not trying to dump on Indy but they are not there yet plain and simple. You like their future, as a fan you should. I'm not as optimistic. I'm a realist. The Pacers are not as young as you believe. Granger is 30, West is about to be 33. That's 2 of your starters on the back end of their careers. Hill is 27, probably peaked as a player. Hibbert will be 27 and peaked as well. So George and Lance Stephenson are the two pieces that can probably improve.
                                                        Granger isnt a starter anymore...may not even come back if he doesnt accept a new role. West has a few good years left and a pretty good value for 10-12 mil..not a guy that you'll have to max out on. Hill/Hibbert are pretty decent...not great. This playoff might really help Hibberts confidence because he's a sensitive kid. O'Brien gave him hell and killed his confidence....O'Brien wanted a running team and Hibbert is no runner. That retarded his development but some big guys take longer. If you saw this playoff compared to a few yrs back or even last fall when he started slow...night and fkn day.

                                                        Here's the # vs Chandler....a world champion and one of the best defensive Cs in the game

                                                        Hibbert 80 points, 62 rebounds, 19 blocks
                                                        Chandler 37 points, 36 rbs, 10 blocks

                                                        I'd call that an ass kicking and so would everyone else. No hard feelings...pls let me know who you root for so I can spend hours trying to shit on your dreams...lol...later
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