For the first time in my life...Im pissed about the NBA draft

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  • Ralphie1412
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-29-08
    • 13963

    #1
    For the first time in my life...Im pissed about the NBA draft
    This is absolutely absurd. Rules need to be implemented. Its ruining the NBA and it takes away from College.

    If you can't DOMINATE in the NCAA what business do you have going to the next level. In this draft they have spoken about Ben McElmore going first or Nerlins Noel. Ben McElmore went out like a bitch going 0 for 8 in his last game. I watched every televised game of Kansas and was never impressed ONCE. And the big12 is down.

    Nerlins Noel? Hes blew it out his knee.

    Even the most of the upper classmen are a joke. Remember Kendall Marshall? D-League. All tar heel guards should remember how good they thought he was when he left Chaple Hill and realize that he is in the penetrating D League.

    Look who Sacramento Kings have gotten with all of their picks. When was the last time you hear Jimmer Ferdettes name.

    How about the number 1 pick in the draft? The next Tim Duncan. I haven't heard Anthony Davis' name ONCE. Not once. That goes for all those Kentucky kids. We have Teague on the Bulls. I haven't seen him play more than a minute. Kidd Gilchrist? Lamb? please.

    Now Archie Goodwin thinks he will have success

    Cody Zeller, if you cant get off one power move against Syracuse under the rim, what makes you think you can against the PRO centers? Its embarrassing. He is the QUINTESSENTIAL player that needs more college.

    End of rant.
    "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
    Goat Milk
  • SlowNsteady
    SBR MVP
    • 12-03-09
    • 2189

    #2
    Well said.
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    • Frisco
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-27-12
      • 6138

      #3
      Think they should adopt a rule like NCAA football where they must be in school for 3 years. Even though guys like Lebron, Kobe, and KG were ready well before that I still think 3 years in school would have served them well. Would be better for all parties
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      • Ralphie1412
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-29-08
        • 13963

        #4
        It never bothered me before, but enough is enough.

        besides Damian Lillard there is not ONE player in the top 15 from last draft that have made an impact.
        "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
        Goat Milk
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        • bjb7223
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-03-12
          • 10349

          #5
          Originally posted by Ralphie1412
          It never bothered me before, but enough is enough.

          besides Damian Lillard there is not ONE player in the top 15 from last draft that have made an impact.
          and you guessed it Lillard stayed 4 years.
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          • Ralphie1412
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-29-08
            • 13963

            #6
            Originally posted by Frisco
            Think they should adopt a rule like NCAA football where they must be in school for 3 years. Even though guys like Lebron, Kobe, and KG were ready well before that I still think 3 years in school would have served them well. Would be better for all parties
            I think it should be a two year roll....IF.....you got to college.

            Kobe and Lebron did NOT need college. Would I have loved to see Lebron make a march madness run like Melo? Hell yes. But he was ready and so was kobe. But think who we are talking about? The two guys compared to MJ. They are freaks of nature. 99.9 percent of high school studs should go to college.....if you do...you are there for two years.

            Imagine the awesome class that D. Rose and Kevin Love came from. If all those guys had to play again the next year? Rose seeking revenge. It would be amazing.
            "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
            Goat Milk
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            • Frisco
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              • 02-27-12
              • 6138

              #7
              Originally posted by bjb7223
              and you guessed it Lillard stayed 4 years.
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              • Ralphie1412
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-29-08
                • 13963

                #8
                Originally posted by bjb7223
                and you guessed it Lillard stayed 4 years.
                of course, thats why he is getting praise from kobe. Kid plays smart.

                Do people think Tim Duncan just got lucky? He grinded out 4 years in the ACC working his ass off. Im pretty sure he got all the money and then some that he was looking at as a freshmen.
                "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                Goat Milk
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                • Frisco
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                  • 02-27-12
                  • 6138

                  #9
                  I'd be fine with 2 years. The 1 and done system is failing the NBA and college ball
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                  • Ralphie1412
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-29-08
                    • 13963

                    #10
                    I have thought about it a lot and I would absolutely trade top 5 picks for proven NBA players. I mean the Bulls have got WAY more out of an ancient hurt Rip Hamilton than the Kings have got from Jimmer Ferdette or Thomas Robinson or Demarcus Cousins.

                    Not saying trade for an old guy like Rip but I would take a sweet package like the Nuggets got for carmelo for my lottery pick.
                    "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                    Goat Milk
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                    • visualrealism
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-13-11
                      • 880

                      #11
                      My boy harison barnes!!!!!
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                      • R.P. McMurphy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-15-12
                        • 9654

                        #12
                        I'm on the same page with you Ralphie and it's one reason college hoops is down and nba is full of average role players. End of the day tho it's all about $$ and I guess we can't hate on that. Most of these kids are not attending college for an education after all!
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                        • Ralphie1412
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-29-08
                          • 13963

                          #13
                          Ya I mean I get the draw to the money. But you will get it. Even Kenyon Martin who broke his leg senior year. You still will get millions eventually. I would be WAY more interested in being good. I could never go from being a stud in college to a bench guy in the nba if I could still play college.

                          I mean March Madness alone would keep me in college. I cant even imagine how intense and fun playing in that tournament is.
                          "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                          Goat Milk
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                          • Ralphie1412
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-29-08
                            • 13963

                            #14
                            reading the first round of the last 3 years of drafts is embarrassing.

                            There are 100 Xavier Henrys out there. Pathetic
                            "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                            Goat Milk
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                            • R.P. McMurphy
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-15-12
                              • 9654

                              #15
                              Problem is most of these kids are broke and come from the ghetto and going 2/4 years where you don't make $ to play, cannot get a job, and family has no money is just too much. Lets not be stupid most of these kids are getting $ from boosters or wherever most just do not get caught. However it's peanuts compared to the millions that awaits them in the pros right away.

                              If you were to ask the average, non-athlete college student right now if they had a winning lotto ticket that payed $10/25 million that they could collect right away by dropping out ... or finish college before getting the check. I'm sure the vast majority would say fukk school I'm outta here lol!
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                              • Frisco
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-27-12
                                • 6138

                                #16
                                They'll all end up broke too. Instant gratification won't help their $$ problems.
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                                • R.P. McMurphy
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-15-12
                                  • 9654

                                  #17
                                  You are right Frisco but fixing stupid and money management skills is a whole other topic.
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                                  • Frisco
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-27-12
                                    • 6138

                                    #18
                                    Maybe they can attend a few classes w/ their extra year or 2 on campus. Or else they will be on the next 30 for 30 documentary version of Broke.
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                                    • R.P. McMurphy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-15-12
                                      • 9654

                                      #19
                                      Yeah but like I said most of these kids don't give 2 shits about school. Most of their grades are probably kept over the minimal requirements by means of cheating the system anyhow.
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                                      • Frisco
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                                        • 02-27-12
                                        • 6138

                                        #20
                                        True.
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                                        • frostno98
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-11-07
                                          • 9769

                                          #21
                                          The League has to make it mandatory 2 years. It will be great for both the NBA and NCAA. The NBA is just hurting itself by getting these kids who are too raw. Although this draft is weak, there's probably some euro players out their that are very good that is not even being mention in the headlines.

                                          The Nuggets 1st round pick Evan Fournier from France is filling admirably for Gallaniri.
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                                          • meader99
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-30-10
                                            • 4223

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                            Yeah but like I said most of these kids don't give 2 shits about school. Most of their grades are probably kept over the minimal requirements by means of cheating the system anyhow.
                                            That's why these kids go to Kentucky.
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                                            • face
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-31-11
                                              • 14740

                                              #23
                                              they are trying to make a living, they can't wait to go pro
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                                              • YouHave2outs
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-02-11
                                                • 4448

                                                #24
                                                whenever you hear kids talk about why they came out after their first year they always mention 'it was the right decision for my family'. a lot of them come from extremely poor families, and risking injury to stay in school another year instead of taking sure 7 figs is not even a consideration.
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                                                • Catchn_Picks
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-02-11
                                                  • 2984

                                                  #25
                                                  It is getting ridiculous...totally agree. Why not just admit that big school sport stars are nothing more than a temporary stop over for future pro sports stars and behave accordingly. College ball players are often not even allowed to work flipping burgers. They leave because they and their families are flat broke and they need some money. If you give them some money they will not feel the need to just take a chance at a pro career.

                                                  And what about McGary (MICH)?...this guy should be way up there if he goes...prototype for a NBA power forward.
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                                                  • YouHave2outs
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-02-11
                                                    • 4448

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Catchn_Picks
                                                    And what about McGary (MICH)?...this guy should be way up there if he goes...prototype for a NBA power forward.
                                                    he's a whitey with baby fat

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                                                    • JM92
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-27-12
                                                      • 1140

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                                      This is absolutely absurd. Rules need to be implemented. Its ruining the NBA and it takes away from College.

                                                      If you can't DOMINATE in the NCAA what business do you have going to the next level. In this draft they have spoken about Ben McElmore going first or Nerlins Noel. Ben McElmore went out like a bitch going 0 for 8 in his last game. I watched every televised game of Kansas and was never impressed ONCE. And the big12 is down.

                                                      Nerlins Noel? Hes blew it out his knee.

                                                      Even the most of the upper classmen are a joke. Remember Kendall Marshall? D-League. All tar heel guards should remember how good they thought he was when he left Chaple Hill and realize that he is in the penetrating D League.

                                                      Look who Sacramento Kings have gotten with all of their picks. When was the last time you hear Jimmer Ferdettes name.

                                                      How about the number 1 pick in the draft? The next Tim Duncan. I haven't heard Anthony Davis' name ONCE. Not once. That goes for all those Kentucky kids. We have Teague on the Bulls. I haven't seen him play more than a minute. Kidd Gilchrist? Lamb? please.

                                                      Now Archie Goodwin thinks he will have success

                                                      Cody Zeller, if you cant get off one power move against Syracuse under the rim, what makes you think you can against the PRO centers? Its embarrassing. He is the QUINTESSENTIAL player that needs more college.

                                                      End of rant.
                                                      Could not agree more. Ben Mclemore, Otto Porter, Goodwin and some other guys are absolutely ridiculous to be thinking about going to the nba right now. They will get owned. Just look at the mighty Rivers for instance. Not withstanding the fact that Mclemore, Porter (although I find these two overrated), Zeller have been good players in college, how many games did they actually dominate? How many times did they look like they did not belong there, but at other level? And then you have four year guys like Wyatt from Temple carrying their teams, stepping up in big moments (Ncaa tourney), going for numbers like 20pt 5 ast or 17pt 8reb who get completely overlooked.

                                                      The Nba should just allow those kids who want the money to go right away or those who do wanna go to college and develop there skills should be able to get some money. I mean these scholarships are huge already right? Why can't they get some extra cash? Sign with an agent or something? And after that, make them stay at least two years. Most kids who actually dominate like Durant in the first year are the ones who could go to the Nba right away. Or then the ones on super teams. Why was Kidd-Gilchrist and most of all those other guys so good as freshmans? They could excel at what they do best, because they had other players to hide their flaws.This is just a bad, bad rule as others in the college game that only make it harder for kids tryin to go pro.
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                                                      • Speedy88
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-19-11
                                                        • 11717

                                                        #28
                                                        They should just cancel the draft this year.
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