Am I seeing something wrong????? Clippers -1.5 only?

[LT Profits]

We've gone around and around about this.

Track the efficiency of the opener vs. the Pinny opener for a while and let me know if it's "meaningless." The movement from the Glantz/Culver open and the Pinny open is where the market tightens up; i.e., if the Mavs opened at -1 and went to +1 for the Pinny open, there's a reason for it -- early money was on the Clippers.

What's "bogus" is pretending the pre-market opener vs. the Pinny opener doesn't matter. It does. Pinny tightens up the original number. If Dallas had opened at +2 at BOL and +1 at Pinny, it would make sense to take Dallas. But the fact that it was -1 and then +1 tells everyone to be cautious in backing the Mavs.

FALSE. I have seen Pinny open several points off of where BOL is sitting at the time and BOL immediately converge to Pinny's line. You continue to ignore the fact that Vegas has become irrelevant in this day and age. Pinny and/or CRIS (whichever opens first) don't give a rat's ass what Glantz/Culver are doing, any numbers available before Pinny/CRIS open are just guesses and those guesses correct to the Pinny/CRIS openers. Your thinking seems to be backwards.

[Jayvegas420]

What worries me is that GOBLue seems to sometimes succeed in spite of his obvious stupidity.
I'm just gonna stay away from this one!

[GzaTheGenius]

La is the play if you gotta make one. idc if they clinched a playoff birth they are still fighting for seeding and they're a way better team the the mavs. They definitely don't want to see Memphis in the first round.. Or Denver for that matter , gl

[chankng]

Agree. If clippers lose they will allow Denver to move up my really think they wanna play Memphis first round??? U kidding me. Stupid of those who think clips are gonna relax and let this one go. They are in battle for seeding or either playing gsw or memphis

[chankng]

Check standing people. Clips den and mem all are In difference of a game. And both den and mem lost. They will capitalize. Clips big. Seeding is so important for nba playoffs. Look what history shows. Most team champion teams are higher seeding

[Seto]

FALSE. I have seen Pinny open several points off of where BOL is sitting at the time and BOL immediately converge to Pinny's line. You continue to ignore the fact that Vegas has become irrelevant in this day and age. Pinny and/or CRIS (whichever opens first) don't give a rat's ass what Glantz/Culver are doing, any numbers available before Pinny/CRIS open are just guesses and those guesses correct to the Pinny/CRIS openers. Your thinking seems to be backwards.

Yeah that's usually what happens. And if you have access to other books (like bwin.com) that have early retarded lines and you have a clue, you can hammer closers. Until they limit you to a few pennies a bet

[Ferndog68]

take dallas.

[GoBlue77]

What worries me is that GOBLue seems to sometimes succeed in spite of his obvious stupidity.
I'm just gonna stay away from this one!

What up jay. Quit being a pussy and take Dallas

[hotelis]

if your argument is about "who wants/needs it more" then dallas is the play imo.

[LT Profits]

Clips den and mem all are In difference of a game.

Clippers basically have top 4 seed locked up though, so it is really just Denver and Memphis fighting for one spot in top 4.

[VyperATS]

Play is Dallas - 1.5 BUY THE HALf POINT take dallas -1

[GoBlue77]

if your argument is about "who wants/needs it more" then dallas is the play imo.

Try telling that to people talking standings lmao. I'm sure Chris Paul was reading the paper this morning and said oh sh1t son, we can move up a seeding! Dallas is playing for their playoff lives and haven't beat a quality team in forever. Its not a lock Dallas will win but This is absolutely a now or never game for them!!!

[Jayvegas420]

I hate to say it but, I think GOBlue is right, it's not a lock but, I'm going with the $HITTY Mavs.

[Panthermil]

Clippers basically have top 4 seed locked up though, so it is really just Denver and Memphis fighting for one spot in top 4.

How do they have a Top 4 seed locked up when there is 1 game separating the 3 seed (LAC) from the 5 seed? Lose 2 games and you could be the 5 seed.

[LT Profits]

How do they have a Top 4 seed locked up when there is 1 game separating the 3 seed (LAC) from the 5 seed? Lose 2 games and you could be the 5 seed.

Clippers will win the division though. Division winners automatically get top 4.

[bmansell33]

Chris paul is questionable tonight most likely out also

[GoBlue77]

Chris paul is questionable tonight most likely out also

I hope he plays.

[No coincidences]

FALSE. I have seen Pinny open several points off of where BOL is sitting at the time and BOL immediately converge to Pinny's line. You continue to ignore the fact that Vegas has become irrelevant in this day and age. Pinny and/or CRIS (whichever opens first) don't give a rat's ass what Glantz/Culver are doing, any numbers available before Pinny/CRIS open are just guesses and those guesses correct to the Pinny/CRIS openers. Your thinking seems to be backwards.

You seem to be missing my point.

Again, if G/C and BOL open with Dallas at -1 and Pinny opens with Dallas at +1, that's not a good reason to take the Mavericks. If G/C and BOL opened with Dallas at +1 and Pinny opened at -1, then it is.

I'm agreeing with you that Pinny's open is the sharpest of the lot and cleans up the inefficiency of early lines. That's why it's a good idea to track the G/C open, because if Pinny is vehemently disagreeing with the number, you know it immediately.

[LT Profits]

You seem to be missing my point.

Again, if G/C and BOL open with Dallas at -1 and Pinny opens with Dallas at +1, that's not a good reason to take the Mavericks. If G/C and BOL opened with Dallas at +1 and Pinny opened at -1, then it is.

I'm agreeing with you that Pinny's open is the sharpest of the lot and cleans up the inefficiency of early lines. That's why it's a good idea to track the G/C open, because if Pinny is vehemently disagreeing with the number, you know it immediately.

Sorry, I thought we were discussing for line movement purposes. To that end, I ignore everything that happens before Pinny or CRIS open as I consider those the true openers and the clock starts then. But now you have me thinking. I still think it is just a synthetic move between G/C and Pinny though because the G/C number is so soft that it SHOULD track well vs. Pinny/CRIS opener.

[chankng]

Chris paul is playing, but didnt go through practice as said in my fantasy memo lol

[chankng]

Game starting soon..... i guess we will see whose right

[Seto]

Clippers will win the division though. Division winners automatically get top 4.

But they don't necessarily get homecourt. AKA the Boston/Atlanta series last year.

[chankng]

Wow Vegas owns the penetrating world. How the hell do they penetrating call this coin flip game

[bleek88]

^ thats why you lay off games like this u degen

[GoBlue77]

BOOM goes the dynamite!

Wheres my big dawg Jay at, hope u tailed son.

Great game, coulda went either way but Dallas cashes, i aint mad...

[Crate Mayne]

I fell for the trap, but on the plus side I pounded Mavs +425 right before OT

[figue]

when the line look too esay take the other side.

[GoBlue77]

[Jayvegas420]

BOOM goes the dynamite!

Wheres my big dawg Jay at, hope u tailed son.

Great game, coulda went either way but Dallas cashes, i aint mad...

Yes I did, I didn't go all in on this but, I cashed on a couple of small parlays.

I fell for the trap, but on the plus side I pounded Mavs +425 right before OT

No one cares about bets that you say you hit after the fact.