Derrick Rose worse than howard

[jsmithj88]

i wonder why few people have called out rose
people sure took turns crapping on howard but at least the dude suited up
and he is returning from major back surgery as well as a torn rotator cuff

rose is cleared to play yet is still not on the court
his brother also comes out and publicly belittles his bulls teammates for not having enuff talent
he cant come off the bench? play limited minutes?
his team is obviously nosediving, shudnt it be a good time to come help out?
im actually surprised at his behavior, i thought he would be more of a leader
but this is pathetic, this is their franchise player? this is gonna be his attitude?

can u imagine if lebron did the same thing?
we would get a million threads about him being a bitch
not 1 thing is said about rose so far

[MEXRFW]

Nobody is worse than Howard. If he feels he needs time to be 100% better than letting a franchise force you to play.

[meader99]

i wonder why few people have called out rose
people sure took turns crapping on howard but at least the dude suited up
and he is returning from major back surgery as well as a torn rotator cuff

rose is cleared to play yet is still not on the court
his brother also comes out and publicly belittles his bulls teammates for not having enuff talent
he cant come off the bench? play limited minutes?
his team is obviously nosediving, shudnt it be a good time to come help out?
im actually surprised at his behavior, i thought he would be more of a leader
but this is pathetic, this is their franchise player? this is gonna be his attitude?

can u imagine if lebron did the same thing?
we would get a million threads about him being a bitch
not 1 thing is said about rose so far

Why would he play one minute before he's ready to come back? The guy is the cornerstone of the franchise. If he comes back to soon for meaningless games and gets hurt, the Bulls would be set back another decade.

[jsmithj88]

Nobody is worse than Howard. If he feels he needs time to be 100% better than letting a franchise force you to play.

sounds like ur biased against howard
nobody is forcing rose to play. hes choosing not to play. thats the point
as a franchise player, thats a bitch move
howard has played through injuries, rose is still on the sidelines
theres really no argument

[GoBlue77]

OP you are a moron.

Rose has heart...obvious you are biased. stupid thread

[jsmithj88]

Why would he play one minute before he's ready to come back? The guy is the cornerstone of the franchise. If he comes back to soon for meaningless games and gets hurt, the Bulls would be set back another decade.

so if howard says hes no longer comfortable playing with his injuries and wants to sit out an undetermined amount of days
u would be kool with it?

[jsmithj88]

OP you are a moron.

Rose has heart...obvious you are biased. stupid thread

im not biased at all
i care for neither rose or howard, im neither a bulls or lakers fan
im making an impartial observation

if people are gonna call howard a bitch
rose is a bigger bitch right now,
if u think hes not, go ahead and present an argument

hes got such a big heart, hes still sitting on the sidelines
watchin his team nosedive
goooooo franchise player, clap ur hands real hard for ur team !!!

[Sport_Fish]

First off, two very different injuries.

Rose's is clearly more serious, esp with his style of play.

Secondly, it was way more important for Howard to play because he needs to figure out what this team can do so he can decide his future and where to go. And they actually have a shot at getting out of the West conference. Rose already knows what his future is and smart not to come back because he realizes there is no point this year. He could maybe help his team get through the 1st round, MAYBE the 2nd, but at the end, they're not gonna get past Miami. So why risk an early comeback when you know there's no championship hope this year.

I think its a very good decision on his part because God forbid he comes back early and somehow aggrevates that injury, all for nothing, his and the Bulls' future is over. Spend the offseason with more rehab so he can come back when hes 100% next year and has a full season to click with his team. Atleast then they have a REASONABLE shot at making a deep playoff run.

[LocksmithSF]

The biggest difference is one is a legitimate franchise player and the other is not

[jsmithj88]

The biggest difference is one is a legitimate franchise player and the other is not

funny argument.
ok which one is the legit franchise player?
the one too scared to play?
or the one gutting out injuries?
its ok not to answer, thats kinda like derrick rose's style nowadays

[meader99]

so if howard says hes no longer comfortable playing with his injuries and wants to sit out an undetermined amount of days
u would be kool with it?

Big difference between playing hurt and being injured. Rose IS the Bulls offense. Is he supposed to come back and just go through the motions? Ever watch Rose play? Never seen him quit. Can't say the same thing for Howard can you?

[jsmithj88]

First off, two very different injuries.

Rose's is clearly more serious, esp with his style of play.

Secondly, it was way more important for Howard to play because he needs to figure out what this team can do so he can decide his future and where to go. And they actually have a shot at getting out of the West conference. Rose already knows what his future is and smart not to come back because he realizes there is no point this year. He could maybe help his team get through the 1st round, MAYBE the 2nd, but at the end, they're not gonna get past Miami. So why risk an early comeback when you know there's no championship hope this year.

I think its a very good decision on his part because God forbid he comes back early and somehow aggrevates that injury, all for nothing, his and the Bulls' future is over. Spend the offseason with more rehab so he can come back when hes 100% next year and has a full season to click with his team. Atleast then they have a REASONABLE shot at making a deep playoff run.

so what ur saying is a knee injury is more serious than a back injury
hmmmmm cant agree with that one
howard came back less than 100%, people conveniently forgot that as well

so what u are saying is that rose is selectively not returning because his team sucks ?
this is your franchise player, your leader, your team captain?
only play when the grass is green?? sit when the grass isnt as green ?
thats supposed to go well with his teammates?
rose can sit for as long as he wants, but others have to gut it out .... ok

im not anti-rose at all, i like derrick rose
but if people are gonna ridicule howard for being a bitch while hes gutting out injuries
why is there not 1 peep about rose, who is cleared to play and refuses to do so
only thing i can think of is bias and hypocrasy

[jsmithj88]

Big difference between playing hurt and being injured. Rose IS the Bulls offense. Is he supposed to come back and just go through the motions? Ever watch Rose play? Never seen him quit. Can't say the same thing for Howard can you?

he is are medically cleared
hes not complaining about being injured or hurt
he has said hes not gonna play until hes ready
he wants god to tell him when to suit up
how is supposed to get back to being the rose of old by not playing ??
lets stop making excuses.

u are right i havent seen rose quit, esp year, because he refuses to suit up and play
cant quit unless u suit up, u won that point

has howard not played though injuries?
howard has missed less games in his career than rose and hes been in the legaue longer
howard came back before being 100%
he is playing through a torn rotator cuff INJURY and a torn labrum

[abzflabz]

rose is a bitch, he gonna come back next season playing like Jordan Farmar.

[winningpicks123]

rose is a loser.

[reppin_the_847]

Y'all oughtta lay off on the kid. Let him come back when he feels like he's ready. Lord knows the Bulls are headed towards disaster right now anyway. No use in rushing back. And to all the haters, I'd like to see your scrawny-asses & lard asses get out onto an NBA court. Good riddance. Once LeBron got his championship ring, I never uttered a word dissing him, and I was NOT a big fan of the "Decision" either. He's a hell of an athlete and he earned my respect. Kobe earned my respect years ago. Here's to the haters:

[dlunc3]

op is correct

[jsmithj88]

Y'all oughtta lay off on the kid. Let him come back when he feels like he's ready. Lord knows the Bulls are headed towards disaster right now anyway. No use in rushing back. And to all the haters, I'd like to see your scrawny-asses & lard asses get out onto an NBA court. Good riddance. Once LeBron got his championship ring, I never uttered a word dissing him, and I was NOT a big fan of the "Decision" either. He's a hell of an athlete and he earned my respect. Kobe earned my respect years ago. Here's to the haters:

who here is being paid to be the franchise player?
his name is derrick rose.
he is medically cleared to play.
but says he will play when he feels like playing

great example of a leader.
please applaud, he sets great example; only play when ur team is good enuff, gotcha.
his teammates must be proud.
carlos boozer is giving him a high five as we speak, haha

can u imagine if kobe or jordan were his teammates?
im sure they would be on board with his attitude, cuz D.ROSE GOT HEART !!

[meader99]

who here is being paid to be the franchise player?
his name is derrick rose.
he is medically cleared to play.
but says he will play when he feels like playing

great example of a leader.
please applaud, he sets great example; only play when ur team is good enuff, gotcha.
his teammates must be proud.
carlos boozer is giving him a high five as we speak, haha

can u imagine if kobe or jordan were his teammates?
im sure they would be on board with his attitude, cuz D.ROSE GOT HEART !!

You must be the only one that believes a doctor is the end all be all in decision making.

[oldscho0led]

gotta agree with OP. why would not Rose play for the fans if he's already cleared to play?

[PerfectGrape]

Have you guys seen Rose play? He goes hard one direction, plants his foot and knee, then explodes the opposite direction. If you watch slow motion of his moves, you can imagine all the force that is put on his knee and leg. He's not posting up like Howard or distributing to superstars to do the scoring. He is the scoring and that puts a ton of strain on his legs. No Bulls fans I know care he's still out or mad at him. The media is making it hysterical, but Bulls fans know what's up and ain't tripping.

[jsmithj88]

You must be the only one that believes a doctor is the end all be all in decision making.

derrick rose can do watever he wants, its his body
u think kobe is ever 100%?
jordan only played when hes 100%?
is any1 on the bulls team 100% healthy?

[reppin_the_847]

The fans aren't the ones cutting the checks. Besides, if he comes back and quickly gets injured it will be a complete disaster.

gotta agree with OP. why would not Rose play for the fans if he's already cleared to play?

[Ralphie1412]

Rubio came back to soon. Period


Bulls arent going anywhere this year. Im a diehard season ticket holding Bulls fan and I would prefer him to just come back next year.

[meader99]

derrick rose can do watever he wants, its his body
u think kobe is ever 100%?
jordan only played when hes 100%?
is any1 on the bulls team 100% healthy?

If you don't trust that your knee is going to hold up when you cut, slash or dunk, then what good are you? It isn't about being 100% healthy, it's having the trust in his knee to go all out. Guys play hurt every night, none of em are playing on a torn acl before they are ready.

[meader99]

Rubio came back to soon. Period


Bulls arent going anywhere this year. Im a diehard season ticket holding Bulls fan and I would prefer him to just come back next year.

Amen to that. Rubio and Shumpert both, and each of em is struggling with it. Neither play the game the way Rose does.

[chantrain]

Give Derrick a break guys. He's 24 years old and coming off an ACL injury.

Howard never had to deal with that, neither did Kobe.

[jsmithj88]

Amen to that. Rubio and Shumpert both, and each of em is struggling with it. Neither play the game the way Rose does.

so rubio shud have sat out the year since they have nothing to play for
same for shumpert since the knicks have no chance to beat miami

[meader99]

so rubio shud have sat out the year since they have nothing to play for
same for shumpert since the knicks have no chance to beat miami

Neither one of them play the game the way Rose does, yet they are both struggling coming back from the same injury. If Rose can't be Rose, he isnt helping the team. Period.

[jsmithj88]

Neither one of them play the game the way Rose does, yet they are both struggling coming back from the same injury. If Rose can't be Rose, he isnt helping the team. Period.

i dunno if they are struggling or not
but if they are, why dont they take a page of out roses book and sit out until they are 110% ?
or are they ......... gulp .... trying to play through it?
mayb just mayb the only way u get back to 100% is by playing ?

[meader99]

i dunno if they are struggling or not
but if they are, why dont they take a page of out roses book and sit out until they are 110% ?
or are they ......... gulp .... trying to play through it?
mayb just mayb the only way u get back to 100% is by playing ?

You understand risk vs. reward? The risk of Rose coming back before HE is ready, far outweighs any reward that could happen this season. Rose will come back when HE is ready, not when you feel he should.

[jsmithj88]

You understand risk vs. reward? The risk of Rose coming back before HE is ready, far outweighs any reward that could happen this season. Rose will come back when HE is ready, not when you feel he should.

u know what, thats 100% fine if thats his choice
because hes gonna do what he wants regardless
some people will play regardless if they are 100%
some people will only play only if they are 110% healthy
but there certainly is bias towards certain players not matter what happens

[meader99]

u know what, thats 100% fine if thats his choice
because hes gonna do what he wants regardless
some people will play regardless if they are 100%
some people will only play only if they are 110% healthy
but there certainly is bias towards certain players not matter what happens

There is no such thing as 110% in regards to health or how much effort you give. It's one of the most ridiculous statements made.

[jsmithj88]

There is no such thing as 110% in regards to health or how much effort you give. It's one of the most ridiculous statements made.

u referring to me?

[oldscho0led]

only God knows