4th game in 5 nights ...... myth or reallity?

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  • Artieaa
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-18-12
    • 953

    #1
    4th game in 5 nights ...... myth or reallity?
    Had been trying to work this out and finally did it and wanted to share it, here are records ATS in NBA this season for teams playing a 4th game in 5 nights:


    Overall: 20 teams have covered ,37 did not cover, if we had played fading every single team playing 4th in 5 would be a nice 64.91% .

    For those 20 wins or covers, 5 have been home teams (4th game) and 15 away, for the 37 teams that did not cover 14 were at home in the 4th game and 23 away.

    Will finish a record team by team and will post it when ready, so far I found Dallas, Memphis and Utah haven“t played a 4th in 5 yet.

    Hopes helps or at least entertains

    GLTA
  • CDMKMP
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-18-12
    • 774

    #2
    I'd be curious to see the amount of rest or schedule on the other side too.

    Like for example yesterday OKC had played 4 in 5 nights but sat a lot vs the Bobcats. I think the bigger factor was Popovich having an extra day of practice for his squad coming off an embarrassing loss. I won't bet against him in similar situations anymore, he's too good of a coach.
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    • Artieaa
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-18-12
      • 953

      #3
      Originally posted by CDMKMP
      I'd be curious to see the amount of rest or schedule on the other side too.

      Like for example yesterday OKC had played 4 in 5 nights but sat a lot vs the Bobcats. I think the bigger factor was Popovich having an extra day of practice for his squad coming off an embarrassing loss. I won't be against him in similar situations anymore, he's too good of a coach.
      Teams that have failed to cover in this situation go from elite teams to scrubs, even Indiana twice, Miami twice, and Spurs once have failed vs scrub teams, inetresting fact here is that OKC has lost their 3 games playing the 4th in 5.
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      • Vinnie Paz
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-27-12
        • 12177

        #4
        If dexter were still here, hed be able to letyou more in depth. One of his auto plays, im sure hed have past season results
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        • Artieaa
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-18-12
          • 953

          #5
          Will keep this thread open to track the record “til end of season.

          Tonight Nets were 4th in 5 they covered

          That would updated records as follow:

          6-14 home
          15-23 away
          21-37 Overall 63.79%

          Tomorrow“s card give us:

          Bucks (4th in 5) at Wizards
          Wolves (4th in 5) at Indiana
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          • jgro85
            SBR Hustler
            • 11-21-12
            • 66

            #6
            Yea this was one of Dexter's autoplays, however it required the team not playing their 4th game in 5 days to have at least 1 day of rest. For example, the Bucks @ Wizards game wouldn't factor in because both teams played the night before.

            I'm still interested to see how it pans out.
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            • Artieaa
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-18-12
              • 953

              #7
              Today games both Bucks and wolves did not cover that update record as follow:

              6-14 home
              15-25 away
              21-39 Overall 65%
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              • Artieaa
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 12-18-12
                • 953

                #8
                For tomorrow we have :

                Wizards (4th in 5) vs Suns
                Memphis (4th in 5) at Utah

                will keep updating this thread till end of season.
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                • Git Lo
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-20-11
                  • 3785

                  #9
                  Nice stats, does it matter if the opponent is also on 4th and 5 or back to back? Suns are a b2b i want to see how this will play out.
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                  • figue
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-23-10
                    • 2524

                    #10
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                    • Enjoi
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-12-13
                      • 328

                      #11
                      Good work mate hope you keep updating this thread.

                      I would like to know what the consensus is on how a team is affected both offensively and defensively by playing back to back games? Are they better or worst defensively and offensively playing lets say, 4 games in 5 nights?

                      I think that a teams defence is affected most in these situations as it would be logical to assume that they are more tired and prone to slack off defensively.
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                      • Artieaa
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-18-12
                        • 953

                        #12
                        Tonight Wizards wins ATS and Memphis loses ATS, I will start to look at games where bith teams are on b2b and one of them is on 4th to 5, will do some research as well on O/U on those games record updated stays as follow:

                        7-14 home
                        15-26 away
                        22-40 Overall 64.5%
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                        • comppicks35
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 12-20-12
                          • 72

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Artieaa
                          Tonight Wizards wins ATS and Memphis loses ATS, I will start to look at games where bith teams are on b2b and one of them is on 4th to 5, will do some research as well on O/U on those games record updated stays as follow:

                          7-14 home
                          15-26 away
                          22-40 Overall 64.5%
                          Hey Artie - this system has a lot of merit especially if the team on the "4th in 5" is the away team; check out the chart....the home team since the All-Star break has covered 4 out of 6, while the away team has lost all situations (0-6).
                          FATIGUE FACTOR - 4 Games in 5 days
                          AT HT
                          23-Feb Indy Det
                          L
                          24-Feb Clev Miami L
                          27-Feb Tor Clev W
                          L 2-Mar GSW Philly
                          L 6-Mar Philly Atl
                          7-Mar OKC NYK W
                          L 11-Mar OKC SA
                          12-Mar Nor Brk W
                          L 13-Mar Minny Indy
                          L 13-Mar Milw Wash
                          L 16-Mar Mem Utah
                          16-Mar Phoe Wash W
                          18-Mar Dal Atl
                          19-Mar Orl Indy
                          22-Mar Port Atl
                          30-Mar Mem Minny
                          30-Mar LAC Hous
                          4-Apr SA OKC
                          10-Apr Miami Wash
                          13-Apr Milw Char
                          15-Apr Chi Orl
                          There are 9 more such situations left in the regular season; 6 away and 3 home....been cashing on this system and it is valid.
                          Aloha!
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                          • thunderous
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-05-12
                            • 1870

                            #14
                            Originally posted by comppicks35
                            Hey Artie - this system has a lot of merit especially if the team on the "4th in 5" is the away team; check out the chart....the home team since the All-Star break has covered 4 out of 6, while the away team has lost all situations (0-6).
                            FATIGUE FACTOR - 4 Games in 5 days
                            AT HT
                            23-Feb Indy Det
                            L
                            24-Feb Clev Miami L
                            27-Feb Tor Clev W
                            L 2-Mar GSW Philly
                            L 6-Mar Philly Atl
                            7-Mar OKC NYK W
                            L 11-Mar OKC SA
                            12-Mar Nor Brk W
                            L 13-Mar Minny Indy
                            L 13-Mar Milw Wash
                            L 16-Mar Mem Utah
                            16-Mar Phoe Wash W
                            18-Mar Dal Atl
                            19-Mar Orl Indy
                            22-Mar Port Atl
                            30-Mar Mem Minny
                            30-Mar LAC Hous
                            4-Apr SA OKC
                            10-Apr Miami Wash
                            13-Apr Milw Char
                            15-Apr Chi Orl
                            There are 9 more such situations left in the regular season; 6 away and 3 home....been cashing on this system and it is valid.
                            Aloha!
                            Can you please tell which are the 9 games?
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                            • nammertl
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-06-11
                              • 1204

                              #15
                              dude, it's on the table. dal, indy, port, minny.etc.

                              dallas looks like a good fade tomorrow.
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                              • Enjoi
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 02-12-13
                                • 328

                                #16
                                Originally posted by nammertl
                                dude, it's on the table. dal, indy, port, minny.etc.

                                dallas looks like a good fade tomorrow.
                                Nope, OKC covers tomorrow. Take em against Hawks as per the chart
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                                • thunderous
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-05-12
                                  • 1870

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by nammertl
                                  dude, it's on the table. dal, indy, port, minny.etc.

                                  dallas looks like a good fade tomorrow.
                                  Oops didn't even look on that chart..sorry and thanks.
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                                  • Artieaa
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-18-12
                                    • 953

                                    #18
                                    @commpicks yeap indeed home teams are doing better , anyway I will try to work this today to see exactly what other factor may be affecting this type of games. either way I think we can call this as a valid factor to take into consideration to cap games.
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                                    • Artieaa
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-18-12
                                      • 953

                                      #19


                                      TEAM
                                      WIN HOME LOSE HOME WIN AWAY LOSE AWAY
                                      KNICKS 2 0 0 0
                                      ATLANTA 1 0 1 1
                                      NETS 1 1 1 0
                                      CHICAGO 1 0 0 0
                                      CLEVELAND 0 1 2 0
                                      DENVER 0 1 1 0
                                      GSTATE 0 1 1 1
                                      INDIANA 0 1 1 1
                                      CLIPPERS 1 0 1 1
                                      LAKERS 0 0 1 0
                                      MIAMI 0 1 1 1
                                      SUNS 0 0 1 1
                                      PORTLAND 0 0 1 0
                                      SPURS 0 0 1 1
                                      TORONTO 0 0 2 0
                                      DALLAS 0 0 0 0
                                      MEMPHIS 0 0 0 1
                                      UTAH 0 0 0 0
                                      BOSTON 0 0 0 1
                                      CHARLOTTE 0 2 0 1
                                      DETROIT 0 2 0 1
                                      HOUSTON 0 0 0 2
                                      BUCKS 0 2 0 1
                                      MINNESOTA 0 0 0 2
                                      NORLEANS 0 1 0 1
                                      OKC 0 0 0 3
                                      ORLANDO 0 1 0 0
                                      76ERS 0 0 0 2
                                      KINGS 0 0 0 2
                                      WIZARDS 1 0 0 2
                                      7 14 15 26
                                      22 40 64.5%
                                      So far this every single team record on 4th in 5
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                                      • Artieaa
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-18-12
                                        • 953

                                        #20
                                        Tonight we have Dallas (4th in 5) at Hawks
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                                        • vyomguy
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-08-09
                                          • 5794

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Artieaa
                                          Tonight we have Dallas (4th in 5) at Hawks
                                          but dallas will win today. You need to look at intangibles late in the season.
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                                          • Artieaa
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 12-18-12
                                            • 953

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by vyomguy
                                            but dallas will win today. You need to look at intangibles late in the season.
                                            Both are pushing into the playoffs mate, don“t count out a win by the Hawks here!!!!
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                                            • vyomguy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-08-09
                                              • 5794

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Artieaa
                                              Both are pushing into the playoffs mate, don“t count out a win by the Hawks here!!!!
                                              Hawks dont care about tonight. They have already made the playoffs. They are just fighting for seed position which is not a big deal.

                                              Whereas this is MUST WIN game for dallas.

                                              My point is, this is not an auto play on hawks.
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                                              • Artieaa
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 12-18-12
                                                • 953

                                                #24
                                                ah no, this thread is just to follow the myth of a 4th in 5 actually I am thinking to leave alone Dallas game , cause as you said there“s too much in game for Dallas and they own a pretty impressive stats ATS. I just post here the games involving a 4th in 5 not meaning they are a play.
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                                                • natelli1
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 12-01-08
                                                  • 251

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by vyomguy
                                                  Hawks dont care about tonight. They have already made the playoffs. They are just fighting for seed position which is not a big deal.

                                                  Whereas this is MUST WIN game for dallas.

                                                  My point is, this is not an auto play on hawks.

                                                  Hawks win tonight, seeding is very important to them.
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                                                  • Artieaa
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-18-12
                                                    • 953

                                                    #26
                                                    Dallas win updated record stands as follow

                                                    7-14 home
                                                    16-26 away
                                                    23-40 Overall 63.5%
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                                                    • R.P. McMurphy
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-15-12
                                                      • 9654

                                                      #27
                                                      Tonights play should be on the Orlando Tragic... 4th in 5 for Indy and David West should be out tonight. GL
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                                                      • Artieaa
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-18-12
                                                        • 953

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                        Tonights play should be on the Orlando Tragic... 4th in 5 for Indy and David West should be out tonight. GL
                                                        Well it“s kind of temptive isn“t it?

                                                        So we have tonight Indiana (4th in 5 ) vs Orlando, let“s see how this goes at the end.
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                                                        • R.P. McMurphy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-15-12
                                                          • 9654

                                                          #29
                                                          Went against my better judgement and played them +11 very small. I truly despise this trash team even going back to last year with super dope playing for them. They are too unpredictable for me and on my auto no play list with Atl, and Brooklyn... but fukk it $20 for shits and grins!
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                                                          • Vinnie Paz
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-27-12
                                                            • 12177

                                                            #30
                                                            Magic actually been playing better lately murph
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                                                            • R.P. McMurphy
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 06-15-12
                                                              • 9654

                                                              #31
                                                              They have been a little more competitive lately but still plenty capable of losing by 20+ on almost any night. This is a small fade 4th in 5 degen wager for beer $$ lol!
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                                                              • Artieaa
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 12-18-12
                                                                • 953

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                                They have been a little more competitive lately but still plenty capable of losing by 20+ on almost any night. This is a small fade 4th in 5 degen wager for beer $$ lol!
                                                                Agree with Vinnie Orlando have played better and do not forget Indiana lost 2 straigh where they were supposed to win, I think you will do fine with those 11 points, gl!!!
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                                                                • R.P. McMurphy
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-15-12
                                                                  • 9654

                                                                  #33
                                                                  So much for my beer $$ degen wager. Everytime I bet this trash it feels like I just gave a donation before tip-off even lol. Oh well I knew better
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                                                                  • Artieaa
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-18-12
                                                                    • 953

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                                    So much for my beer $$ degen wager. Everytime I bet this trash it feels like I just gave a donation before tip-off even lol. Oh well I knew better
                                                                    I hear you mate, sorry about your loss
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                                                                    • Artieaa
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 12-18-12
                                                                      • 953

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Indiana wins
                                                                      Updated record

                                                                      8-14 home
                                                                      16-26 away
                                                                      24-40 Overall 62.5%
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