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[OhMyEli]

Let me teach you a little something about basketball. Now sometimes it is strange, but you post about everyday happenings in the NBA pretty often. For tonights example (that you didnt bet and thus didnt find it "crazy") we have the Warriors and the Raptors. Two run of the mill teams despite little runs of success in their season. Now this one is excessive, but your posts about stuff that happen every day would astonish even casual NBA viewers.
I give you the final 67 seconds of the game since you find this to be so crazy that NBA teams score tons of points at the end of quarters or halves or games:

1:07		105-113	Harrison Barnes makes driving layup
1:07	Rudy Gay shooting foul (Harrison Barnes draws the foul)	105-113
1:07		105-113	Draymond Green enters the game for Andrew Bogut
1:07		105-114	Harrison Barnes makes free throw 1 of 1
1:07	Raptors 20 Sec. timeout
0:57	DeMar DeRozan makes driving layup (Kyle Lowry assists)	107-114
0:53	Kyle Lowry personal take foul (Stephen Curry draws the foul)	107-114
0:53		107-115	Stephen Curry makes free throw 1 of 2
0:53		107-116	Stephen Curry makes free throw 2 of 2
0:53	Raptors 20 Sec. timeout
0:49		107-116	Draymond Green personal foul (Rudy Gay draws the foul)
0:49	Rudy Gay makes free throw 1 of 2	108-116
0:49	Rudy Gay makes free throw 2 of 2	109-116
0:48	Kyle Lowry personal take foul (Stephen Curry draws the foul)	109-118
0:48		109-117	Stephen Curry makes free throw 1 of 2
0:48		109-117	Kent Bazemore enters the game for David Lee
0:48		109-118	Stephen Curry makes free throw 2 of 2
0:43		109-118	Draymond Green shooting foul (Kyle Lowry draws the foul)
0:43	Kyle Lowry makes free throw 1 of 3	110-118
0:43	Kyle Lowry makes free throw 2 of 3	111-118
0:43		111-118	Festus Ezeli enters the game for Draymond Green
0:43		111-118	David Lee enters the game for Kent Bazemore
0:43	Kyle Lowry makes free throw 3 of 3	112-118
0:42	Rudy Gay personal take foul (Jarrett Jack draws the foul)	112-118
0:42		112-118	Jarrett Jack misses free throw 1 of 2
0:42		112-118	Warriors offensive team rebound
0:42		112-118	Kent Bazemore enters the game for Festus Ezeli
0:42		112-118	Jarrett Jack misses free throw 2 of 2
0:40	Andrea Bargnani defensive rebound	112-118
0:31	Kyle Lowry misses layup	112-118
0:31	Amir Johnson makes two point shot	114-118
0:31	Amir Johnson offensive rebound	114-118
0:31	DeMar DeRozan personal take foul (Jarrett Jack draws the foul)	114-118
0:31		114-119	Jarrett Jack makes free throw 1 of 2
0:31		114-120	Jarrett Jack makes free throw 2 of 2
0:31	Raptors Full timeout
0:31		114-120	Richard Jefferson enters the game for Kent Bazemore
0:27	Andrea Bargnani misses 26-foot three point jumper	114-120
0:26	Amir Johnson offensive rebound	114-120
0:24	Amir Johnson makes 4-foot two point shot	116-120
0:24	Kyle Lowry personal take foul (Stephen Curry draws the foul)	116-120
0:24		116-121	Stephen Curry makes free throw 1 of 2
0:24		116-122	Stephen Curry makes free throw 2 of 2
0:17	Kyle Lowry makes driving layup	118-122
0:17	Rudy Gay personal foul (Jarrett Jack draws the foul)	118-122
0:17		118-122	Jarrett Jack misses free throw 1 of 2
0:17		118-122	Warriors offensive team rebound
0:17		118-122	Draymond Green enters the game for David Lee
0:17		118-123	Jarrett Jack makes free throw 2 of 2
0:10	Kyle Lowry misses 26-foot three point jumper	118-123
0:08		118-123	Richard Jefferson defensive rebound
0:08	Amir Johnson personal take foul (Richard Jefferson draws the foul)	118-123
0:08		118-124	Richard Jefferson makes free throw 1 of 2
0:08		118-124	Kent Bazemore enters the game for Stephen Curry
0:08		118-125	Richard Jefferson makes free throw 2 of 2
0:01	Rudy Gay misses 27-foot three point jumper	118-125
0:00	Raptors offensive team rebound	118-125

There you have it, 25 points in 67 seconds of an NBA game, and the world didn't explode.

[Sport_Fish]

It's amazing how long Raptors delayed the game with the fouling, and after ALL THAT, somehow the final score lands right on the spread

[bjb7223]

Mr. stern will take his $$ now.

[No coincidences]

I don't find it crazy when teams do this fouling intentionally. That happens all the time.

I do find it crazy when teams suddenly go on massive scoring streaks to end a half (not intentional foul induced) and just happen to push the total over by a point or two.

Big difference between this example and, say for instance, the thread I started on the Memphis/Orlando 1H total last night.

[daimoshokage]

No Coin is the biggest stupid conspiracy theory game fixing retard.. Guy keeps calling a game fix whenever he lost.. The most stupid poster hands down..

Always blaming that the game is fixed.. Making a thread about it like it will change the outcome.. Fukking piece of shit..

[OhMyEli]

It's amazing how long Raptors delayed the game with the fouling, and after ALL THAT, somehow the final score lands right on the spread

I took a live over at 231 and was ready to curse it off when they were 18 points off with 2 minute to go. Who knew I'd coast 14 points over in that spot

[No coincidences]

No Coin is the biggest stupid conspiracy theory game fixing retard.. Guy keeps calling a game fix whenever he lost.. The most stupid poster hands down..

Always blaming that the game is fixed.. Making a thread about it like it will change the outcome.. Fukking piece of shit..

I talk about fixed games all the time, true, but rarely have actual bets on the games. Just making observations (like the ORL/MEM 1H total yesterday). Try again.

[OhMyEli]

I don't find it crazy when teams do this fouling intentionally. That happens all the time.

I do find it crazy when teams suddenly go on massive scoring streaks to end a half (not intentional foul induced) and just happen to push the total over by a point or two.

Big difference between this example and, say for instance, the thread I started on the Memphis/Orlando 1H total last night.

I'm not going to get into some bickering match with you over specifics, but I just dont understand how you are surprised when a line or total lands right at where Vegas has it. Do you think it'd be a billion dollar industry if a couple guys on a message board could crack the code so to speak?

I think its possible a few games are rigged each year, maybe around 1-2%...but to conspire with enough guys to get away with it is very tough considering what they're putting at risk.

Think about it, if you want to fix a game who would you most likely go to? You'd go to someone who has great influence over the game, the guys that do are making so much money, the amount you can pay them most likely isn't worth the risk they take. if you're caught, you have to pay the legal fees, lose all benefits, and are immediately banned from the game. Tell me a guy making 8 million a year is going to risk going broke over $80,000?

[No coincidences]

I'll write more on this when I get home from this game. But it's absolutely amazing how much of a hand Brent Barnaky (ref #70) has had in this game.

3 subtle possessions he put his hand in which resulted in a 7 point game swing.

Look up his ref numbers. Home teams ATS are 8-27-1. Home teams straight up are 15-21.

Been watching him all game.

Edit. He just had his hand in it again. 8:02 mark.

Never said this was a player-driven issue. Or have you never heard of Tim Donaghy?

Good post here from tat.

[OhMyEli]

Never said this was a player-driven issue. Or have you never heard of Tim Donaghy?

Good post here from tat.

The refs would definitely make more sense, although whenever I've seen you make those type of posts its always about a scoring flurry. I've read parts of the Danaghy book as well, I'm very aware of that situation, as NBA refs are probably in the best position in all of sports to fix a game. I've umpired/reffed baseball and basketball and played football in high school. In basketball I guarantee you a ref could whistle something on 8 out of 10 possessions (those two are fast breaks or clean jump shots) if they wanted to and be able to sit down and review the tape and justify it to an objective 3rd party.

My only point is obscure things happen in NBA games when you dont have your money on it, you seem to forget that when you vent often.

[No coincidences]

The refs would definitely make more sense, although whenever I've seen you make those type of posts its always about a scoring flurry. I've read parts of the Danaghy book as well, I'm very aware of that situation, as NBA refs are probably in the best position in all of sports to fix a game. I've umpired/reffed baseball and basketball and played football in high school. In basketball I guarantee you a ref could whistle something on 8 out of 10 possessions (those two are fast breaks or clean jump shots) if they wanted to and be able to sit down and review the tape and justify it to an objective 3rd party.

My only point is obscure things happen in NBA games when you dont have your money on it, you seem to forget that when you vent often.

Probably two-thirds of the games I post about are times when I'm just watching and don't have a nickel on the game (like the Memphis game on Sunday). Check back through my posts, then check my thread for plays and match them up. I see shit all the time and post about it, but it doesn't always have anything to do with whether or not I'm winning or losing money on the play. Far from it.

[OhMyEli]

Probably two-thirds of the games I post about are times when I'm just watching and don't have a nickel on the game (like the Memphis game on Sunday). Check back through my posts, then check my thread for plays and match them up. I see shit all the time and post about it, but it doesn't always have anything to do with whether or not I'm winning or losing money on the play. Far from it.

I'm not going to check your posts pal. Like I said, I didn't post this to bicker, my main point was to you and for everyone else to see 25 points scored in 67 seconds. There was an NBA quarter a few weeks ago with 25 total points in 12 minutes. Crazy stuff happens every night, I am baffled you still get surprised/suspicious if you claim to have watched the NBA for 20 years or whatever it is. I find it "amazing" but to think someone conspired with two teams to get a first half over is ridiculous.

Say there were 4 guys in on it, at $50k a take, you have $200,000 on 1/4 of the players that will play the half. With a half, we are talking literally 4 possessions that flip this either way. You're telling me some syndicate got minimum 4 players to conspire on something that comes down to 4 possessions when they can only influence 1/4 of the players involved in it? Wouldnt an under be waaaay easier? With those two shitty offensive teams, guys could easily chuck up terrible shots over a 2 minute period and otherwise play normal and get an under easy...