How do Action Reverse Parlay's work?

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  • GIVEMETHEMONEY
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-13-12
    • 8428

    #1
    How do Action Reverse Parlay's work?
    I know this is probably a stupid question for everyone here, but I am a totally noob on Action Reverse picks.

    I notice Khmerkid uses them all the time. Does he use this as a type of hedge bet?
  • HardCore
    SBR MVP
    • 06-05-12
    • 3615

    #2
    honestly i dont know how the f#ck kk gets 4x his bets on his action reverses all my books give me 2x of whatever i bet like $22 to win $38 as an example...i dont make small bets like that for the record im a 100$-150 bettor average just using it as an example
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    • GIVEMETHEMONEY
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-13-12
      • 8428

      #3
      Again how do they work

      Yeah I was wondering that too Hard Core.

      Again if you put in a bet let's say Miami Boston under 195 and you put it in Action Reverse at under 195 and it goes over does that mean you win on the Action Reverse bet?
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      • HardCore
        SBR MVP
        • 06-05-12
        • 3615

        #4
        i have no clue ask kk or hope someone who knows see's the thread
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        • bigjah15
          SBR MVP
          • 12-20-10
          • 1437

          #5
          Action reverse of 2 bets at -110
          Lose both bets => -1.0000 units
          Lose 1, Win 1 => -0.5455 units
          Win both bets => +1.8182 units
          EV at 4.545% juice per bet => -6.8182%


          Parlay of 2 bets at -110
          Lose both bets => -1.0000 units
          Lose 1, Win 1 => -1.0000 units
          Win both bets => +2.6446 units
          EV at 4.545% juice (per bet) => -8.8843%
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          • bigjah15
            SBR MVP
            • 12-20-10
            • 1437

            #6
            Originally posted by bigjah15
            Action reverse of 2 bets at -110
            Lose both bets => -1.0000 units
            Lose 1, Win 1 => -0.5455 units
            Win both bets => +1.8182 units
            EV at 4.545% juice per bet => -6.8182%


            Parlay of 2 bets at -110
            Lose both bets => -1.0000 units
            Lose 1, Win 1 => -1.0000 units
            Win both bets => +2.6446 units
            EV at 4.545% juice (per bet) => -8.8843%
            Did google search and this was in old thread, hope it helps
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            • sportfinny15
              SBR Rookie
              • 01-04-13
              • 44

              #7
              When he does a 3k action reverse he is really putting up 6k, if he loses both he loses 6k, if he splits them he loses a little over 3k, if he wins both he wins 12k
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              • GIVEMETHEMONEY
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-13-12
                • 8428

                #8
                Thanks for the replies and examples

                So it works the same as a parlay except the payout is higher and if you win 1 and lose 1 then you don't lose all of your money.

                Am I reading into this correctly?

                Again many thanks for the examples!!
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                • thunderous
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-05-12
                  • 1870

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GIVEMETHEMONEY
                  So it works the same as a parlay except the payout is higher and if you win 1 and lose 1 then you don't lose all of your money.

                  Am I reading into this correctly?

                  Again many thanks for the examples!!
                  The payout is actually lower (compared to a parlay) if you win both bets but at the same time if you go 1-1 you lose less
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                  • HardCore
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-05-12
                    • 3615

                    #10
                    We need kk to answer how the F he's getting 4x the payout cause he never says 6k he says 3k
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                    • Frenchy616
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-21-13
                      • 320

                      #11
                      Isn't action reverse if you bet 30 on the first game and it wins, then you put 30 on the second game, for a chance to win little under 60.

                      If you lose the first game, the second game doesn't receive a bet?
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                      • bassfish
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 02-07-12
                        • 93

                        #12
                        A&R's

                        My $50 A&R pays 200 - of I lose one side it cost me $55 (on -110 juice) both sides $110. ML A&R's cost more because of the higher juice. The only ML A&R's I can put in is on the NHL.
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                        • nicktran808
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-30-12
                          • 276

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Frenchy616
                          Isn't action reverse if you bet 30 on the first game and it wins, then you put 30 on the second game, for a chance to win little under 60.

                          If you lose the first game, the second game doesn't receive a bet?
                          No that's an IF bet I believe.

                          I think an Action Reverse is basically an IF bet from both sides. Instead of bet A winning and then playing B when A wins, in an action reverse both A and B play but one loss doesn't blow the entire thing.

                          From what I understand,

                          Parlay:
                          Throw down $N on Bets A and B hitting, all or nothing

                          IF:
                          Throw down $N on Bet A. If A hits, then play Bet B. Not sure on the payout compared to parlays/action reverse, probably lower than a parlay.

                          Action Reverse:
                          Throw down $N on BOTH A and B that BOTH get action (therefore throwing down $2N). Bets are linked but are independent. If both win, you win less than a parlay, but if only one wins, you lose less than a parlay.

                          ^ I'm probably wrong though.
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