Lakers getting 8 in OKC

t-wizzle · 12-07-12, 01:29 AM

Same/similar line as playoff series last year and regular season matchup.

TwoWays · 12-07-12, 01:31 AM

Is this really lb? You asking for info/advice? We all know what your play will be.

MrVJP · 12-07-12, 01:37 AM

Line was projected to be -8/-8.5 by the comps (said this Wed night). Books put it at -7.5 and the plays have been on OKC to move it to -8. As a fan, I don't bet against them ever. I either play or stay off. I will play this and probably lose but I don't really care I cover well enough in my other plays

Key here is OKC 3pt % and Lakers rotating defense. Best vs the worst. Perkins defends Dwight well most of the time. No one can stay in front of Westbrook. Don't even know if Pau is playing- doubt it. Only bright spots here are Jamison bringing Ibaka a little outside of the paint-- which he is reluctant to do (he really is an overrated OVERALL defender: great shot blocker doesnt equate to great defender) so if Jamison is hot it'll open up the offense for everyone else. Also, Eric Maynor is playing like absolute utter garbage which is a good thing (since I am a Laker fan) and Brooks doesn't seem to want to give Jackson a try.. there's like 20 more things I can say here but you get the point-- it doesn't look good unless Meeks and Jamison are on fire.

shimeon40 · 12-07-12, 01:38 AM

lakers are okc bunnies..be careful.

vasilli07 · 12-07-12, 01:40 AM

Thunder or no play.

Butterface · 12-07-12, 01:47 AM

Yea take okc with points, Lakers can't stop them.

lakerboy · 12-07-12, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Same/similar line as playoff series last year and regular season matchup.

But teams are not the same. I say lakers win su.

PAULYPOKER · 12-07-12, 01:48 AM

OKC will send Kobe&the Freak show to KFC

t-wizzle · 12-07-12, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

But teams are not the same. I say lakers win su.

Same bro. Game means more to Lakers. Thunder already proved to themselves they can beat LA.

Lakers not that much different though with Nash out. Replace Bynum with Howard and a few other pieces.

No coincidences · 12-07-12, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Thoughts? Books begging for lakers action? Seems like a lot of points.

Weren't the books begging for Knicks action tonight? Whoops.

shimeon40 · 12-07-12, 01:51 AM

okcfire up against kobe..they like pumping the lakers...

shimeon40 · 12-07-12, 01:52 AM

depends no pau no nash..no chance...no chance at all.

lakerboy · 12-07-12, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Weren't the books begging for Knicks action tonight? Whoops.

You make me laugh. What was the heat line supposed to be sir?

shimeon40 · 12-07-12, 01:56 AM

whos been saving lakers?..kobe..who do okc can't tolerate?..kobe

t-wizzle · 12-07-12, 01:56 AM

Game isn't even comparable with the Melo situation.

LB what you think Lakers line does? Will it stay in the 7/7.5 range or go back to 8/8.5?

No coincidences · 12-07-12, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

You make me laugh. What was the heat line supposed to be sir?

So the 12-4 Heat were between -7 and -8 (before Carmelo was announced out) vs. the 13-4 Knicks, and that wasn't begging for Knicks money in your mind. Yet the 9-10 Lakers are basically the same at the 15-4 Thunder and the books are "begging for Laker action"? I don't get what you're saying. Why is that "a lot of points" for a sub-.500 team to give against the best/hottest team in basketball, yet the Knicks at +8 isn't?

lakerboy · 12-07-12, 02:01 AM

I think it stays +7.5

No coincidences · 12-07-12, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Game isn't even comparable with the Melo situation.

LB what you think Lakers line does? Will it stay in the 7/7.5 range or go back to 8/8.5?

Knicks were +7/8 even before Melo was announced out. That's when they went to 9.5/10.

Frisco · 12-07-12, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by MrVJP

Line was projected to be -8/-8.5 by the comps (said this Wed night). Books put it at -7.5 and the plays have been on OKC to move it to -8. As a fan, I don't bet against them ever. I either play or stay off. I will play this and probably lose but I don't really care I cover well enough in my other plays

Key here is OKC 3pt % and Lakers rotating defense. Best vs the worst. Perkins defends Dwight well most of the time. No one can stay in front of Westbrook. Don't even know if Pau is playing- doubt it. Only bright spots here are Jamison bringing Ibaka a little outside of the paint-- which he is reluctant to do (he really is an overrated OVERALL defender: great shot blocker doesnt equate to great defender) so if Jamison is hot it'll open up the offense for everyone else. Also, Eric Maynor is playing like absolute utter garbage which is a good thing (since I am a Laker fan) and Brooks doesn't seem to want to give Jackson a try.. there's like 20 more things I can say here but you get the point-- it doesn't look good unless Meeks and Jamison are on fire.

Lakers play better w/ Jamison (when his outside shooting is on) than when they have Pau out there. Said it in the offseason that they needed to push to get Ryan Anderson to LA as a stretch 4 who can also rebound.

t-wizzle · 12-07-12, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Knicks were +7/8 even before Melo was announced out. That's when they went to 9.5/10.

Yes I know. That's not that big of a spread. Especially for the Heat. I don't feel like arguing with you about this though. I was just saying I don't think the two games are comparable because we will never know what would have happened had Anthony played.

lakerboy · 12-07-12, 02:04 AM

Coin are the lakers supposed to be +12.5?

Frisco · 12-07-12, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Knicks were +7/8 even before Melo was announced out. That's when they went to 9.5/10.

Wonder how many ppl hopped on Heat when the line jumped considering the same thing happened against the Spurs and they barely won. Pretty sure it happened last yr w/a road game against Chicago too

No coincidences · 12-07-12, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Yes I know. That's not that big of a spread. Especially for the Heat. I don't feel like arguing with you about this though. I was just saying I don't think the two games are comparable because we will never know what would have happened had Anthony played.

I'm just trying to figure out how giving a dysfunctional 9-10 Laker team 8 on the road against the hottest team in basketball is "begging for Laker action." LB asked me what I thought the Miami/NY line should be -- I think maybe I should ask him the same thing about this one.

No coincidences · 12-07-12, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Coin are the lakers supposed to be +12.5?

8 seems about right given both teams' records/current form.

What did you expect? 6?

t-wizzle · 12-07-12, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I'm just trying to figure out how giving a dysfunctional 9-10 Laker team 8 on the road against the hottest team in basketball is "begging for Laker action." LB asked me what I thought the Miami/NY line should be -- I think maybe I should ask him the same thing about this one.

Looks like he was asking if they were begging for the action rather than stating. Seems like it was just to get some discussion on the game.

Thunder seem invincible right now. Perfect spot to take Lakers.

MrVJP · 12-07-12, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by Frisco

Lakers play better w/ Jamison (when his outside shooting is on) than when they have Pau out there. Said it in the offseason that they needed to push to get Ryan Anderson to LA as a stretch 4 who can also rebound.

Yes they do. Hornets will not make that trade-- the contract is way too good for such a good shooter and rebounder. Pau for Calderon+Bargnani IF Raptors keep getting smacked around would most likely be in the works. The reason I want Pau playing is that 2nd unit this idiot D'Antoni is experimenting with: Darius Morris, Meeks, Ebanks, Jamison, Hill <= what in the world? I saw 2 sequences in a row with a 2 man game between Morris and Hill! 10 seconds of idiotic dribbling then throw it into the paint then back out for 8 more seconds of dribbling then throw it into the paint for a TO.. twice. In a row. The first unit is actually rated in the top 3 +/- in the league.. desperately need Steve Blake back but hes out 2 more months.

No coincidences · 12-07-12, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Looks like he was asking if they were begging for the action rather than stating. Seems like it was just to get some discussion on the game.

Thunder seem invincible right now. Perfect spot to take Lakers.

Lakers will probably cover at least. Takes balls to bet against OKC right now -- especially backing LAL in its current form -- but I don't know what kind of angle or value there would be on taking the Thunder at such a big number. You'd be buying high, that's for sure.

Frisco · 12-07-12, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by MrVJP

Yes they do. Hornets will not make that trade-- the contract is way too good for such a good shooter and rebounder. Pau for Calderon+Bargnani IF Raptors keep getting smacked around would most likely be in the works. The reason I want Pau playing is that 2nd unit this idiot D'Antoni is experimenting with: Darius Morris, Meeks, Ebanks, Jamison, Hill <= what in the world? I saw 2 sequences in a row with a 2 man game between Morris and Hill! 10 seconds of idiotic dribbling then throw it into the paint then back out for 8 more seconds of dribbling then throw it into the paint for a TO.. twice. In a row. The first unit is actually rated in the top 3 +/- in the league.. desperately need Steve Blake back but hes out 2 more months.

You know you're bench is bad when I just read "desparately need Steve Blake back.." lol. I thought Anderson was a free agent in the offseason but could be mistaken. Either way think they should deal Pau while he's still worth something

TwoWays · 12-07-12, 02:19 AM

LB you homer, I hope you right.

PAULYPOKER · 12-07-12, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Weren't the books begging for Knicks action tonight? Whoops.

Originally posted by lakerboy

You make me laugh. What was the heat line supposed to be sir?

	Power Rating
	Estimate	Edge
NEW YORK
MIAMI	-7

	Power Rating
	Estimate	Edge
LA LAKERS
OKLAHOMA CITY	-9

lonegambler · 12-07-12, 02:35 AM

Lakers will get blasted in this one....

MrVJP · 12-07-12, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by Frisco

You know you're bench is bad when I just read "desparately need Steve Blake back.." lol. I thought Anderson was a free agent in the offseason but could be mistaken. Either way think they should deal Pau while he's still worth something

Not quite. Blake is pretty good. He isn't a triangle player nor whatever the heck Mike Brown was running these past 2 years. He's pretty good at running an offense through P&R and spot up shooting- especially with 2nd unit. I don't know who's a better 2nd unit PG other than Andre Miller.

MrVJP · 12-08-12, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by MrVJP

The reason I want Pau playing is that 2nd unit this idiot D'Antoni is experimenting with: Darius Morris, Meeks, Ebanks, Jamison, Hill <= what in the world? I saw 2 sequences in a row with a 2 man game between Morris and Hill! 10 seconds of idiotic dribbling then throw it into the paint then back out for 8 more seconds of dribbling then throw it into the paint for a TO.. twice. In a row.

He tried it again in the 2nd quarter.. 41-26 drubbing..