Time to fade the Clips?

[Frisco]

I played the Griz about 5 games in a row and then they finally burned me (albeit in a ML parlay but still) and have been on the Clips in each of their last 5 games. Do they finally have a slip up in OKC? Is it a bad idea to fade a team as hot as the Clips? I personally think they are a better team than OKC and w/ their bench production should win the game SU. Being given 4.5 points looks too good to pass up

[Lakers714]

Frisco, just like the thread I made about the Clippjoint against the Spurs, I can't fade them right now. Too deep, too intune with each other, too much CP3. One word to describe this team is "relentless." Crawford, Bledsoe, Odom, Turiaf all coming off the bench? Please give me Clippjoint +4.5.

[Lakers714]

While I'm here, any must plays for college hoops tomorrow?

[Frisco]

Looks like public is all over clips so far. Clips or no play for me and will probably lock it in now b/c I think it will close around 3.

[JM92]

It looks too easy to be true again. Jordan is going to own Perkins, the Clippers bench is going to own the Thunder bench (lol Maynor vs Bledsoe) the thing is: can Griffin have a good game and also they haven't faced two really good 1x1 players yet this season, can they contain both Westbrook and Durant without having a premiere on the ball defender as far as Bledsoe or Cp3? They might keep Westbrook in check but I don't know about KD.

[Ratpack]

yeah but if westbrook and durant both get 30 where does the rest of the points come from for the thunder. Paul and Westbrook cancel each other out and I will say that durant and griffin and jordan cancel each other out points wise. Barnes Crawford and Odom could put up 30 to 45 points right there off the bench which is WAY BETTER than martin and a couple of other guys for the thunder. You saw when the clippers took over that game vs the spurs in the 2nd quarter with the bench. When did the grizzles takeover vs the thunder last week in the 2nd quarter with the bench. Take the points but i see clippers winning here straight up not even close. 99-88 type score.

[as99]

On OKC -4.

I think Clippers are due for a loss (not betting on any due theory though). OKC - very difficult team to beat at home (yeah I know their record) and I think they've stepped it up the last 2 games, getting use to the new pieces. Clippers are a great team but getting a bit over-rated on SBR now.

[JM92]

they haven't stepped shit up dude. they're 1-3 against more than decent teams (not even sure if the Hawks and the Bulls are one of those). As a fan Im actually feeling sick about how people say 8-3 is a good start when there are clearly at least 3 teams a step above us on the West alone.

[Frisco]

While I'm here, any must plays for college hoops tomorrow?

Boston College -4, Marquette -5 -105, Colorado State +3 and ML, and Illinois -1.5.

[Frisco]

IMO the only angle for taking OKC is the "Clips are due for a loss" one. Clips are the better team and it's really not even that close anymore. They have athletic, hard nosed PG's who could challenge Westbrook and force some mistakes. Durant will have to have a triple double w/ like 35 points to keep them in this one.

[A4K]

I played the Griz about 5 games in a row and then they finally burned me (albeit in a ML parlay but still) and have been on the Clips in each of their last 5 games. Do they finally have a slip up in OKC? Is it a bad idea to fade a team as hot as the Clips? I personally think they are a better team than OKC and w/ their bench production should win the game SU. Being given 4.5 points looks too good to pass up

I'd fade the Clippers. They just "got up" for the Spurs and are now on a 7 6 game winning streak. The Thunder are just the team to end the Clippers run. This is similar to the Nuggets @ Grizzlies game. One team is on a long winning streak and looks unbeatable. Time to hop off the wagon.

[swingtrader]

I'm on the Clips because I'm on the under.

[brainfreeze0]

How many times last season did they say the Spurs work do for a loss. The Spurs win on like a 28 game run beating the spread in almost all of them I believe. as Frisco said the only reason not to bit Clippers is because they are due for a loss. I'll be on the Clippers tonight

[A4K]

How many times last season did they say the Spurs work do for a loss. The Spurs win on like a 28 game run beating the spread in almost all of them I believe. as Frisco said the only reason not to bit Clippers is because they are due for a loss. I'll be on the Clippers tonight

Writing off the Thunder in this spot is not wise. Can the Clippers reel off 28 wins in a row? Sure, but I wouldn't bet on that type of streak happening any time soon.

[brainfreeze0]

Clips have beat Memphis, Miami, Lakers, spurs twice. No other team in the NBA right now, including okc, has a dominant team. Schedule of wins like this. Bigger question is what reasoning other than being due a loss can be said for why okc would win tonight?

[Frisco]

I'm going to keep riding the clips in these big games where they have something to prove. Think their next loss (su or ats) will be a large home line or as a road fave. Think at Atlanta will be the first time I fade them, depending on the line of course

[A4K]

Clips have beat Memphis, Miami, Lakers, spurs twice. No other team in the NBA right now, including okc, has a dominant team. Schedule of wins like this. Bigger question is what reasoning other than being due a loss can be said for why okc would win tonight?

In my mind, it's not a matter of can the Clippers win, it's a matter of (are there better plays on the board?) Fading the defending Western Conference Champions at home versus a team that just "got up" for the Spurs, doesn't appear to have much value. While the Clippers have been HOT, of late, they are not unbeatable. If I remember correctly, they lost to the Cavaliers and the Warriors earlier in the month. To expect them to continue to reel off wins against the upper echelon of the NBA, on the road no less, seems like a tall order. The Thunder have just as many capable players as the Clippers, and the Thunder will be at home.

Ask yourself, if the Clippers have been so dominant over the last week and a half, why is the line at +4? Seems like a lot of points for a RED HOT team. That alone should trigger some further examination.

I'd steer clear of this spread and find more of a mismatch.

[Frisco]

In my mind, it's not a matter of can the Clippers win, it's a matter of (are there better plays on the board?) Fading the defending Western Conference Champions at home versus a team that just "got up" for the Spurs, doesn't appear to have much value. While the Clippers have been HOT, of late, they are not unbeatable. If I remember correctly, they lost to the Cavaliers and the Warriors earlier in the month. To expect them to continue to reel off wins against the upper echelon of the NBA, on the road no less, seems like a tall order. The Thunder have just as many capable players as the Clippers, and the Thunder will be at home.

Ask yourself, if the Clippers have been so dominant over the last week and a half, why is the line at +4? Seems like a lot of points for a RED HOT team. That alone should trigger some further examination.

I'd steer clear of this spread and find more of a mismatch.

You say the same thing before the Griz beat OKC after stomping the defending NBA champ?

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[A4K]

You say the same thing before the Griz beat OKC after stomping the defending NBA champ?

Yep, and I had a similar sentiment when I picked the Nuggets to upset the Grizzlies two nights ago. I'm running about 62% on my NBA selections this season and I wouldn't touch this game. The Clippers, like all teams, are susceptible to let downs. Like I stated, I 'd steer clear of this game. I don't see much value in the 4 points.

[Frisco]

I don't blame you for avoiding the game but I will take Clips and the points. Headlines coming out of this game will be what's wrong w/ OKC, how did Presti trade Harden, and why isn't Durant shooting less than Russ.

[A4K]

I don't blame you for avoiding the game but I will take Clips and the points. Headlines coming out of this game will be what's wrong w/ OKC, how did Presti trade Harden, and why isn't Durant shooting less than Russ.

Best of luck. I'm pullin for ya.

[Frisco]

I don't blame you for avoiding the game but I will take Clips and the points. Headlines coming out of this game will be what's wrong w/ OKC, how did Presti trade Harden, and why isn't Durant shooting less than Russ.

Obviously meant to say IS not isn't on the last part.

[Frisco]

Best of luck. I'm pullin for ya.

thx, same to u

[brainfreeze0]

In my mind, it's not a matter of can the Clippers win, it's a matter of (are there better plays on the board?) Fading the defending Western Conference Champions at home versus a team that just "got up" for the Spurs, doesn't appear to have much value. While the Clippers have been HOT, of late, they are not unbeatable. If I remember correctly, they lost to the Cavaliers and the Warriors earlier in the month. To expect them to continue to reel off wins against the upper echelon of the NBA, on the road no less, seems like a tall order. The Thunder have just as many capable players as the Clippers, and the Thunder will be at home.

Ask yourself, if the Clippers have been so dominant over the last week and a half, why is the line at +4? Seems like a lot of points for a RED HOT team. That alone should trigger some further examination.

I'd steer clear of this spread and find more of a mismatch.

OKC is not the same team they were when they had Harden. Harden brought a spark that has been missing since he left. Their bench is not even close to being as good as Clippers either. Durant and Westbrook will leave and when Clippers bench comes through they always ignite the starting line. As someone else mentioned somewhere else here or another thread they play true team ball. There is no hogging for spotlight. Clippers play like a family and completely unselfish to where you never know who will get the ball. As good as CP3 is he spends more time with assist then taking shots and only takes over during crunch times.

OKC pretty much just counts on Durant and Westbrook and thats it. You double team Durant and it could easily shut OKC down because he is pretty much their entire offense. This is not the case with Clipers because Jordan, Blake, Butler, Paul, Barnes, Bledsoe, Crawford etc. are only worried about one thing, get it to the best possible spot to make the points.

[A4K]

OKC is not the same team they were when they had Harden. Harden brought a spark that has been missing since he left. Their bench is not even close to being as good as Clippers either. Durant and Westbrook will leave and when Clippers bench comes through they always ignite the starting line. As someone else mentioned somewhere else here or another thread they play true team ball. There is no hogging for spotlight. Clippers play like a family and completely unselfish to where you never know who will get the ball. As good as CP3 is he spends more time with assist then taking shots and only takes over during crunch times.

OKC pretty much just counts on Durant and Westbrook and thats it. You double team Durant and it could easily shut OKC down because he is pretty much their entire offense. This is not the case with Clipers because Jordan, Blake, Butler, Paul, Barnes, Bledsoe, Crawford etc. are only worried about one thing, get it to the best possible spot to make the points.

We must read different NBA articles. Check this out about the "family" Clippers. LINK


I'm not arguing with you, I think the Clippers are the better team, but even the better team loses on occasion. This doesn't seem like the best spot to back them. The Clippers lost to the Cavaliers and Warriors this month, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that OKC can win this game at home.

[brainfreeze0]

We must read different NBA articles. Check this out about the "family" Clippers. LINK


I'm not arguing with you, I think the Clippers are the better team, but even the better team loses on occasion. This doesn't seem like the best spot to back them. The Clippers lost to the Cavaliers and Warriors this month, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that OKC can win this game at home.

Good article. I believe CP3 has the right attitude at the end of it. If him and Blake lead the charge in allowing their depth the opportunity to play as a whole then everyone else will fall in with that. Everyone knows they are the heart of the team and they do not have to prove that. CP3's said time and again he loves the opportunity to cheer for the bench and anyone whos watched any of their games will see him and Blake prove that. They are on their feet cheering for the bench time and time again. You are right in that Clippers could lose and lose the spread. Its by no I means a lock. Never argues that point. However, in my mind this doesn't equate to a coin flip spread matchup. I think the Clippers will win this one outright. Just my opinion though.

[A4K]

Good article. I believe CP3 has the right attitude at the end of it. If him and Blake lead the charge in allowing their depth the opportunity to play as a whole then everyone else will fall in with that. Everyone knows they are the heart of the team and they do not have to prove that. CP3's said time and again he loves the opportunity to cheer for the bench and anyone whos watched any of their games will see him and Blake prove that. They are on their feet cheering for the bench time and time again. You are right in that Clippers could lose and lose the spread. Its by no I means a lock. Never argues that point. However, in my mind this doesn't equate to a coin flip spread matchup. I think the Clippers will win this one outright. Just my opinion though.

I respect that opinion and I'm rooting for you guys to get a win tonight.

[Eagles27]

Like Memphis, Clippers have been money for me thus far and given they are +4 right now, I will take it. I'm riding the clippers until they show me otherwise.

[BMoreBird]

Like Memphis, Clippers have been money for me thus far and given they are +4 right now, I will take it. I'm riding the clippers until they show me otherwise.

likewise..

[JM92]

We must read different NBA articles. Check this out about the "family" Clippers. LINK


I'm not arguing with you, I think the Clippers are the better team, but even the better team loses on occasion. This doesn't seem like the best spot to back them. The Clippers lost to the Cavaliers and Warriors this month, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that OKC can win this game at home.

those two games don't count, believe me. they count when you're analyzing the clippers to go against, say, the Bucks or something like that. Not against Okc, not on the road.

[deezyaz81]

Ride the train until it falls off. Good luck clippers backers

[Butterface]

Clippers!! Good Luck to all with today's card!

[Frisco]

Penetrating OT!!!!

[SportsTerminator]

Overtime is not what you want for Clippers backers....that home momentum...