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  • Riceboi
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-03-11
    • 857

    #211
    You have to take emotions out when playing a chase system and play it like a robot. As long as you're using top notch money management, you will most likely come out with profit.
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    • thelimit0310
      SBR MVP
      • 01-24-11
      • 1233

      #212
      njb5572 The worst thing you can do is decrease your unit size after a lose. It prolongs your recovery. The best thing is to just stay constant, simple and effective.
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      • Jtwa
        SBR Rookie
        • 11-12-12
        • 4

        #213
        Here's a question for Stiffler.

        Overall from 2006-Present. You're up 880 units. If you set 1 unit = 100 dollars. You'd be up 88000 dollars.
        Would it be crazy to start with a bank roll of 10k?

        I have the money to do it and the stats show that you make at least 100 units per year?
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        • CrazyCarl
          SBR MVP
          • 10-09-11
          • 1437

          #214
          Originally posted by Jtwa
          Here's a question for Stiffler.

          Overall from 2006-Present. You're up 880 units. If you set 1 unit = 100 dollars. You'd be up 88000 dollars.
          Would it be crazy to start with a bank roll of 10k?

          I have the money to do it and the stats show that you make at least 100 units per year?
          I don't think it would be entirely crazy, but I would be careful about managing your expectations, and only doing so if you're prepared to lose it all in a worst-case scenario.
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          • Nino7
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 07-11-09
            • 798

            #215
            Originally posted by Jtwa
            Here's a question for Stiffler.

            Overall from 2006-Present. You're up 880 units. If you set 1 unit = 100 dollars. You'd be up 88000 dollars.
            Would it be crazy to start with a bank roll of 10k?

            I have the money to do it and the stats show that you make at least 100 units per year?

            you would be up a lot more because you reevaluate your unit size every season..that said keep in mind that the money you use for this has to be some money you can afford lose because the past stats are only past stats..there is no guarantee and you might lose it all..otherwise yeah you can go for it!!
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            • Jtwa
              SBR Rookie
              • 11-12-12
              • 4

              #216
              First off, i'm very interested in this chase system and I think you've done an excellent job. I'm wondering if you've experimented in more detailed systems. For example,

              S4: Whenever a team had an OT game start the 4 game chase after this game. Play to lose ATS after that OT game.

              Can you back track and see what the chances of the team losing ATS the night after an OT game that the team just lost ATS.

              For example: Toronto did not cover last night in OT. They play today. What are the chances they don't cover the spread?
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              • harry
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-15-09
                • 273

                #217
                Originally posted by Stifler
                i know alot people hate chase systems, cause laying big money on C,D,E bets is stressfull...all i can tell about this is - It doesnt matter if ur betting single games or any chase - in the end u try to profit whatever ur playing. And single betting doesnt guarantee + money at the end of a season.
                I agree with you to an extent, but if a system is performing to the %'s you posted above on each individual stage of a bet, you will make money from single betting (I hope to find that it would be consistent year in year out). You won't make as much as if you were chasing because there won't be as many plays, as the %'s you have given above on a season to season basis probably make the A and B bets unplayable.

                However, betting on the C and D bets (single) you would make +120units over the time you have backtested. You would have to take away the bookies edge to achieve that, but it's profitable.

                I will definitely be backtesting your systems (in no way I think your wrong by the way, I just like the info infront of me to make decisions). The %'s are too good not to do anything with them

                How long have you been using these systems??
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                • Melda
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-27-11
                  • 1028

                  #218
                  Any plays tonight?
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                  • Stifler
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-11-09
                    • 3511

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Jtwa
                    Here's a question for Stiffler.

                    Overall from 2006-Present. You're up 880 units. If you set 1 unit = 100 dollars. You'd be up 88000 dollars.
                    Would it be crazy to start with a bank roll of 10k?

                    I have the money to do it and the stats show that you make at least 100 units per year?
                    everything is already said, just play what u can afford to lose. No one can guarantee money in sports betting, except ur bookie. Anyway, in the end it is ur decision.

                    Can you back track and see what the chances of the team losing ATS the night after an OT game that the team just lost ATS.

                    For example: Toronto did not cover last night in OT. They play today. What are the chances they don't cover the spread?
                    Even if Toronto would have covered, they would qualify today for the S4 play. All i can provide is the winning % on S4 over the years and overall (but only for the teams listed for S4).
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                    • Stifler
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-11-09
                      • 3511

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Melda
                      Any plays tonight?
                      13.11.2012

                      S1

                      (A Bet) Sac fade: Portland +3 1,10u

                      S4

                      (A Bet) Tor fade: Indiana -9,5 1,10u
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                      • Want2Win
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 09-30-09
                        • 440

                        #221
                        Stifler, you are a nice gent to repost your plays when a poster asks, even though all he had to do is go back a couple of pages to see today's plays.
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                        • DustyDiamond
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 12-19-09
                          • 772

                          #222
                          Stifler, great job with this thread, looking forward to a fatter wallet at the end!
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                          • Grinder12000
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-21-11
                            • 1809

                            #223
                            i know alot people hate chase systems,
                            Actually I think they are ridicules and stupid and I've been handicapping for over 40 years!

                            HOWEVER - Stifler seems to have a tweak to the typical chase. I think the key here is picking what teams to play and if I were him I would keep that part a secret. I guarantee if you used his chase on EVERY team you would go belly up sooner or later.

                            Stifler - NHL??? Cricket? Soccer? just sayin.

                            GUYS - the REAL wager is . . .what is the over/under for posts in this thread at the end of the season.


                            BTW I'm 22-13 NFL ATS with Bridejumper (22 year old system).
                            Last edited by Grinder12000; 11-13-12, 06:49 PM.
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                            • Melda
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-27-11
                              • 1028

                              #224
                              Originally posted by Want2Win
                              Stifler, you are a nice gent to repost your plays when a poster asks, even though all he had to do is go back a couple of pages to see today's plays.
                              I looked and couldnt find them cuz of the clusterfuck of comments. But thanks.
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                              • Grinder12000
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-21-11
                                • 1809

                                #225
                                If you are not used to the format for picks it's tough to find. You should see baseball LOL
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                                • Lctham
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 02-19-12
                                  • 40

                                  #226
                                  do you find that for system 1/2, if win streaks or losing streaks are more successful?
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                                  • njb5572
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 01-29-12
                                    • 126

                                    #227
                                    Thanks Limit for your insight, appreciate the response. You think anything similar to 7/5 can be done here? Willing to help where I can..
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                                    • Grinder12000
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-21-11
                                      • 1809

                                      #228
                                      Looks to me that the teams being played in each system tells the story. Was looking at streaks for a few teams and yup!! I was looking at Milwaukee and for S1 play them only in Winning Streaks The Bucks are really choppy but when they get on a winning streak they rarely BAM - go down hill. However with losing streaks they do turn it around going the other way.

                                      In fact going back to 2003 the Bucks are 46-3 HOWEVER they were 3-2 in the 1st 3 weeks of 2003. After 3-2 they went like 43-1 up to last night.

                                      Like to see the % of times we get stressed out and win that 4th game. We know how many times it loses.
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                                      • DollarBill10
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 05-06-11
                                        • 449

                                        #229
                                        Alright people, the flipping amount of STUPID questions or lack of LOOKING THROUGH THIS THREAD is getting OUT OF CONTROL.

                                        If you have to QUESTION EVERYTHING PLAY he puts out, then maybe this isn't for you.

                                        FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE...stop already.

                                        All of us that subscribe to this thread have to come to it so damn much for all of these petty posts.

                                        Come on people...
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                                        • Asset
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 11-07-09
                                          • 326

                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by DollarBill10
                                          Alright people, the flipping amount of STUPID questions or lack of LOOKING THROUGH THIS THREAD is getting OUT OF CONTROL.

                                          If you have to QUESTION EVERYTHING PLAY he puts out, then maybe this isn't for you.

                                          FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE...stop already.

                                          All of us that subscribe to this thread have to come to it so damn much for all of these petty posts.

                                          Come on people...

                                          I TOTALLY AGREE!!!

                                          Give the man a break people; unless he doesn't mind Btw Stifler, great job and you "ARE" the greatest and kindest person on earth, and I wish I could meet you in person to shake your hand and buy you a beer or two
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                                          • okbyme123
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 05-07-12
                                            • 88

                                            #231
                                            oops
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                                            • okbyme123
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 05-07-12
                                              • 88

                                              #232
                                              Agreed!
                                              If you have a question, please take the initiative to find the answer in a past post.
                                              All the questions are a bother, especially for Stifler.
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                                              • Fed_42420
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-12-09
                                                • 976

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by Grinder12000

                                                GUYS - the REAL wager is . . .what is the over/under for posts in this thread at the end of the season.

                                                Over/under 5783
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                                                • suresystemworks
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 11-12-12
                                                  • 6

                                                  #234
                                                  If all of you are scared to lose some short-term money, then his chase system is not for you. You need to think long term if you want this system to work for you. And if you're scared to lose a relatively big amount of money in losing D bets, start with B bets as your A bets. This will technically increase your chances of winning in terms of the series chase because you eliminate the riskiest bet which is the A-bet. But of course, small payout in the long-run.
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                                                  • Stifler
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-11-09
                                                    • 3511

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by Stifler
                                                    13.11.2012

                                                    S1

                                                    (A Bet) Sac fade: Portland +3 1,10u

                                                    S4

                                                    (A Bet) Tor fade: Indiana -9,5 1,10u
                                                    records:
                                                    S1: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
                                                    S2: W 1 | L 0 (+1,00 units)
                                                    S3: W 1 | L 0 (+1,00 units)
                                                    S4: W 3 | L 0 (+3,00 units)

                                                    pending:
                                                    - S1 Atl fade, B Bet on 14.11.2012
                                                    - S4 Tor fade, B Bet on 17.11.2012
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                                                    • NicoleAniston
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 11-13-12
                                                      • 27

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by Stifler
                                                      records:
                                                      S1: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
                                                      S2: W 1 | L 0 (+1,00 units)
                                                      S3: W 1 | L 0 (+1,00 units)
                                                      S4: W 3 | L 0 (+3,00 units)

                                                      pending:
                                                      - S1 Atl fade, B Bet on 14.11.2012
                                                      - S4 Tor fade, B Bet on 17.11.2012
                                                      (A Bet) Tor fade: Indiana -9,5 1,10u
                                                      (A Bet) Atl fade:
                                                      Portland -2,5 1,10u

                                                      Aren't those two supposed to be losses? You haven't count them in your record. Or your just counting losses after the 4 game chase?

                                                      S1: W 5 | L 1
                                                      S2: W 1 | L 0
                                                      S3: W 1 | L 0
                                                      S4: W 3 | L 1
                                                      Last edited by NicoleAniston; 11-14-12, 04:53 AM.
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                                                      • CrazyCarl
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-09-11
                                                        • 1437

                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by NicoleAniston
                                                        (A Bet) Tor fade: Indiana -9,5 1,10u
                                                        (A Bet) Atl fade:
                                                        Portland -2,5 1,10u

                                                        Aren't those two supposed to be losses? You haven't count them in your record. Or your just counting losses after the 4 game chase?

                                                        S1: W 5 | L 1
                                                        S2: W 1 | L 0
                                                        S3: W 1 | L 0
                                                        S4: W 3 | L 1
                                                        I know there's a lot of posts in here, but like you already guessed (and he's said), the records that are here are system records, and not counting every game.
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                                                        • DustyDiamond
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 12-19-09
                                                          • 772

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by Grinder12000
                                                          Actually I think they are ridicules and stupid and I've been handicapping for over 40 years!

                                                          HOWEVER - Stifler seems to have a tweak to the typical chase. I think the key here is picking what teams to play and if I were him I would keep that part a secret. I guarantee if you used his chase on EVERY team you would go belly up sooner or later.

                                                          Stifler - NHL??? Cricket? Soccer? just sayin.

                                                          GUYS - the REAL wager is . . .what is the over/under for posts in this thread at the end of the season.


                                                          BTW I'm 22-13 NFL ATS with Bridejumper (22 year old system).
                                                          What is this bridejumper system you speak of?
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                                                          • swankk
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 07-30-12
                                                            • 202

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by NicoleAniston
                                                            (A Bet) Tor fade: Indiana -9,5 1,10u
                                                            (A Bet) Atl fade:
                                                            Portland -2,5 1,10u

                                                            Aren't those two supposed to be losses? You haven't count them in your record. Or your just counting losses after the 4 game chase?

                                                            S1: W 5 | L 1
                                                            S2: W 1 | L 0
                                                            S3: W 1 | L 0
                                                            S4: W 3 | L 1
                                                            Helloooo someone's not paying attention
                                                            THOSE RECORDS ARE FOR THE FULL 4 GAME (A, B, C , D) CHASE!
                                                            UNTIL A SYSTEM BET LOSES 4 IN A ROW, (A B C & D)THERE WILL NOT BE A TALLY IN THE LOSS COLUMN FOR ANY CHASE SYSTEM. KAPISH?
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                                                            • Stifler
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-11-09
                                                              • 3511

                                                              #240
                                                              14.11.2012

                                                              S1


                                                              (B Bet) Atl fade: Portland -2,5 1,10u | Golden State -1,5 2,31u

                                                              S2

                                                              (A Bet) Bos fade: Utah - waiting on a better line here

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                                                              • Grinder12000
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-21-11
                                                                • 1809

                                                                #241
                                                                +5.5 ?

                                                                Bridgejumper is over in the NFL forum (look for Bridgejumper. Developed 22 years ago, 30-40 plays a year so it's not a big deal. wins about 60% ATS 537-362 lifetime. I honestly forgot about this forum or would have been posting plays.

                                                                Sorry Stifler - not trying to threadjack.
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                                                                • lordlord2323
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-09-11
                                                                  • 1051

                                                                  #242
                                                                  I like Golden State but not Uthat
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                                                                  • Asset
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 11-07-09
                                                                    • 326

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by Stifler
                                                                    14.11.2012

                                                                    S1


                                                                    (B Bet) Atl fade: Portland -2,5 1,10u | Golden State -1,5 2,31u

                                                                    S2

                                                                    (A Bet) Bos fade: Utah - waiting on a better line here
                                                                    May I ask how is this play an S2 play for today?. I did read the S2 criterias that you've posted...I don't see the 3 wins or 3 lost @home or away. Thanks
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                                                                    • fooubar
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 02-20-11
                                                                      • 28

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Boston lost their last 3 ATS at home.
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                                                                      • gambler705
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 11-04-11
                                                                        • 376

                                                                        #245
                                                                        It really is irrelevant who you like. Thats the beauty of a chase system, it takes emotion and bias out of the equation.

                                                                        Originally posted by lordlord2323
                                                                        I like Golden State but not Uthat
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