My first NBA model tracking thread

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  • pico
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    • 04-05-07
    • 27321

    #1
    My first NBA model tracking thread
    spent yesterday morning figuring this out. this model just take the team's relative strength and ability to cover spread and calc the possible outcome of the game. i started with this very simple 2 variable model, and calculated the results for last night and calibrated the parameters.

    for last night, my model picked (all spreads)
    NYK-PP
    LAC-NN
    CHA-NP
    DET-NP
    ATL-NP
    DEN-NN
    SAC-NP
    LAL-NN

    overall: 5-2-1, then i looked closer, my model has 3 catagories of results PP,NP, NN (p=positive, n=negative).

    here is last night;s results based on the 3 catagories:

    PP= 1-0
    NP= 1-2-1
    NN= 3-0

    these sample size are way too small to yield any meaningful conclusion. so i'll live test this prediction model for this week.

    For tonight's game, here is the model results:

    ORL-PP
    OKC-PP
    BOS-NP
    MIA-NP
    MEM-NP

    (these are all predictions in respect to the closing line...i suggest you not to take this model too seriously at this point cuz i am still testing it)
  • LUNT101
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    • 03-12-07
    • 919

    #2
    can you explain the significance of PP NP and NN in more detail please
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    • pico
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-05-07
      • 27321

      #3
      Originally posted by LUNT101
      can you explain the significance of PP NP and NN in more detail please
      my model outputs an number. it can be positive or negative. positive means that this team has a higher chance of covering the spread based on the matchup, negative means this team has a lower chance of covering the spread based on the matchup.

      it is actually two predictions, one for each team based on the game match up. sometimes, i get postive outputs for both teams, sometimes i get one positive and one negative.

      i thought about it yesterday, my model makes intuitive sense, so i think it has potential.
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      • LUNT101
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        • 03-12-07
        • 919

        #4
        so, for example, you have NN next to the Lakers game. that means that you put the lakers and rockets into your equation and it said both of them have a low chance of covering the spread? how do you interpret that and how does that lead you to take the Lakers?
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        • pico
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          • 04-05-07
          • 27321

          #5
          Originally posted by LUNT101
          so, for example, you have NN next to the Lakers game. that means that you put the lakers and rockets into your equation and it said both of them have a low chance of covering the spread? how do you interpret that and how does that lead you to take the Lakers?
          yes, for some reason my model said both teams might not cover the spread, but the number for HOU is a very large negative number and the LAL output is a small negative number within single digits. that is why i pick the LAL.

          come to think of it, rather than P, N, i should just find the difference between the two predictions.

          let's see how tonight goes, and i'll update it tomorrow.
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          • LUNT101
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            • 03-12-07
            • 919

            #6
            good luck, ill be watching
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            • pico
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-05-07
              • 27321

              #7
              For tonight's game, here is the model results:

              ORL-PP - loss
              OKC-PP - win
              BOS-NP - loss
              MIA-NP - loss
              MEM-NP - win


              over all: 7-5-1
              by category

              PP= 2-1
              NP= 2-4-1
              NN= 3-0



              i found a better way to calibrate the model. i'll run the new version for these games and see how they compare. give me 30 min...
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              • MickChunky
                SBR MVP
                • 10-31-06
                • 1452

                #8
                Interesting, keeping an eye on this
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                • pico
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 04-05-07
                  • 27321

                  #9
                  results did not change. so let me put the estimation difference next to the yesterday and today's results:

                  sunday
                  UTA-NYK -193 win PP
                  DAL-LAC -32 win NN
                  TOR-CHA -58 loss NP
                  BOS-DET -20 loss NP
                  ATL-OKC +167 push PN
                  MEM-DEN -1046 win NN
                  GSW-SAC +518 loss PP
                  HOU-LAL -16 win NN

                  monday
                  POR-ORL -9 loss PP
                  OKC-IND +9 win PP
                  TOR-BOS -68 loss NP
                  NJN-MIA -152 loss NP
                  MEM-PHX +65 win PN
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                  • pico
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 04-05-07
                    • 27321

                    #10
                    over all: 6-6-1...hmm not so good. let's see how it does for the rest of the week. i might scrap this if it turn out to be 50%.
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                    • pico
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 04-05-07
                      • 27321

                      #11
                      Tuesday
                      UTA-PHI +51 win
                      DEN-CHA -144 loss
                      MIL-CLE -60 loss
                      ATL-CHi -68 loss
                      LAL-DAL +11 win
                      NYK-SAN -41 win
                      DET-SAC -466 push
                      MIN-GSW +13 win

                      4-3-1
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                      • ChuteBoxe
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-21-07
                        • 6885

                        #12
                        Good luck tonight pico.
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                        • pico
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 04-05-07
                          • 27321

                          #13
                          10-9-2 overall
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                          • walbjj
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 10-28-08
                            • 105

                            #14
                            ill be the first to say this. if anyone finds an algortihm to predict gambling of any sort, then they will be a wealthy person.
                            so far i have yet to see anything come remotely close. but good luck with it
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                            • peterpan19
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                              • 11-02-08
                              • 3377

                              #15
                              pico,

                              as of now it seems like plus numbers do very well my friend
                              3-0 yesterday
                              2-0 monday
                              0-1-1 sunday
                              so 5-1-1 overall for plus numbers
                              not quiet sure what plus numbers mean, but I am very interested in systems like that
                              so if you want to share some infos with me pm me or maybe even with all of us post it hear (maybe it has potential)

                              thx for your work
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                              • MoneySportsGuy
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-09-07
                                • 4891

                                #16
                                goodluck to your system pico interesting how its going to go through the season as more data becomes available
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                                • peterpan19
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-02-08
                                  • 3377

                                  #17
                                  what about the thursday and friday plays ??
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