The Gatorade DUELS--5mike5

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Oh no, all against you here Mike. Took Gordo over Kyle, Kurt over Bowyer and MattK over Newman.

we will probably both go 1 out of 2 and both lose...

and hey at least the 2 picks u got against me are on the same parlay for me, my other parlay u didnt bet either of those matchups

really just to make it more interesting for for these, as im sure u didnt bet much either...just enough to make it more interesting for me...think id clear 100 maybe for the day

bswagos · 02-23-12, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by MatI

oh yep, def want to let go of the wheel. No matter what car your in. I think wagos was more complaining about her 'covering' her face...

Exactly. Let go of the wheel yes, cover your eye no.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by bswagos

Exactly. Let go of the wheel yes, cover your eye no.

i think she did that with hands so arms dont fly around...i dont think she was coverin here eyes really

MatI · 02-23-12, 04:04 PM

and this was explained to you why she did that.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:07 PM

didnt think about this but glad i got smoke as 1 of my early picks at +1200 already...starting 3rd and winning that Duel im guessing that wobnt be the case when odds are posted again

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:09 PM

goodluck on ur parlay Opti, and any1 else who has a little something going for Duel #2

TheSchafe · 02-23-12, 04:22 PM

CASH MY POY!!!! Reutimann start and park!!!!

Optional · 02-23-12, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

we will probably both go 1 out of 2 and both lose...

and hey at least the 2 picks u got against me are on the same parlay for me, my other parlay u didnt bet either of those matchups really just to make it more interesting for for these, as im sure u didnt bet much either...just enough to make it more interesting for me...think id clear 100 maybe for the day

LOL... you're prediction looks right on track so far.

Congrats Schafe! I was totally wring about Reuti. Great call.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:30 PM

they are playing calm so far in #2

Optional · 02-23-12, 04:32 PM

remind anyone of what 500 miles of 2 lines of cars was like?

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Optional

remind anyone of what 500 miles of 2 lines of cars was like?

exactly why when every1 cried about tandem racing i didnt understand....at least it was exciting most laps...

but they wont be this calm come sunday, it will look more like duel #1 and crazier....

the 500 is going to be a CRASH_FEST...which i dont mind thats what makes daytona fun and impossible to predict

bswagos · 02-23-12, 04:37 PM

This thing better get more exciting here pretty quick.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:38 PM

u grab up anybody for the 500 yet Opti??.....i thought the value early was amazing....i got a several top drivers and several longshots already, and will finish up my roster in a day or 2 after final odds are posted up...but there was some big numbers on good plate track drivers IMO

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:39 PM

these guys really see no point in tearing up the same cars they are running the daytona 500 with...i wouldnt either honestly, but it will pick-up soon enough....doesnt really matter if u start 1st or 43rd at these plate tracks

MatI · 02-23-12, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

these guys really see no point in tearing up the same cars they are running the daytona 500 with...i wouldnt either honestly, but it will pick-up soon enough....doesnt really matter if u start 1st or 43rd at these plate tracks

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:41 PM

huge break for me having bowyer over kurt B. there....

speeding penalty just killed kurts chances...now bowyer will probably wreck...LOL

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

these guys really see no point in tearing up the same cars they are running the daytona 500 with...i wouldnt either honestly, but it will pick-up soon enough....doesnt really matter if u start 1st or 43rd at these plate tracks

1/2 these guys drop to the back for a while at the start anyways

Optional · 02-23-12, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

these guys really see no point in tearing up the same cars they are running the daytona 500 with...i wouldnt either honestly, but it will pick-up soon enough....doesnt really matter if u start 1st or 43rd at these plate tracks

Been so distracted with other stuff in the lead up, I would have just been guessing, so decided to just leave it until late. So I at least got more caught up before throwing money around.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:47 PM

i tell ya Biffle at +2700 was a steal...and that was even afer he qualified 2nd...good longshot anyways

sharpcat · 02-23-12, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

i tell ya Biffle at +2700 was a steal...and that was even afer he qualified 2nd...good longshot anyways

I hit him hard at +2800 and again at +2500, he should be +1500. Looks like he is going to have 4 fords in the top 10 to help push him also.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

I hit him hard at +2800 and again at +2500, he should be +1500. Looks like he is going to have 4 fords in the top 10 to help push him also.

i disagree about +1500, he should be a longshot...hes never won at a plate track so i cant give him that much credit

see that mistake he just made in Duel#2, hes just not a smart plate driver...

but id love to hit my +2800 though

**i also got kennseth at +2700...and hes is a good plate driver and looks real fast too

MatI · 02-23-12, 04:56 PM

nice finish.

both my leans hit and I didnt touch 'em. Watch me lose everything on the 500!

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

i disagree about +1500, he should be a longshot...hes never won at a plate track so i cant give him that much credit see that mistake he just made in Duel#2, hes just not a smart plate driver... but id love to hit my +2800 though **i also got kennseth at +2700...and hes is a good plate driver and looks real fast too

not to mention stewart and harvick at 12 and 11 to 1 wont be that good again either...im stoked at the odds i got my 5-6 early wagers on...i finish my roster in next day or 2

Optional · 02-23-12, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Oh no, all against you here Mike.

I was right to be concerned.

Nice hit Mike.

sharpcat · 02-23-12, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

i disagree about +1500, he should be a longshot...hes never won at a plate track so i cant give him that much credit

see that mistake he just made in Duel#2, hes just not a smart plate driver...

but id love to hit my +2800 though

**i also got kennseth at +2700...and hes is a good plate driver and looks real fast too

I wouldn't hold much stock in any statistic pulled from a sampling of only 45 races (especially when those statistics don't accurately reflect outside variables such as pit crew mistakes or other drivers errors).

Any driver sitting on the pole whose car dominated all practice sessions and qualifying should have been respected by bookmakers who are putting up odds with a 20%+ over round, crap shot or not.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 05:15 PM

i know nascar inside and out, thats all i do is calculate odds ...i wasnt talking stats, nor did i mention them...i mentioned his past performances on plate tracks and odds he should be set at

i have biffle too, but +1500 here?? ...no way...i got at +2700 and thats a little low yes, but +1500 and lower saved for drivers who are great plate track drivers like harvick and smoke...and ur right its a total crap shoot, so biffle here at +1500 just way way too high imo, thats why no place on earth has him anywhere near those prices

u wont ever see odds on him at any book no matter what he does in sessions...kansas yes, plate tracks, no

we just have to agree to disagrre on the odds i guesss

but who cares, we both have biff at HUGE odds, so hope he wins for us

Optional · 02-23-12, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

bookmakers who are putting up odds with a 20%+ over round

Would love to get near 20% on NASCAR. 5D is usually closer to 35, and they are generally the best of the offshores. (not that I calculate it every week)

sharpcat · 02-23-12, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Would love to get near 20% on NASCAR. 5D is usually closer to 35, and they are generally the best of the offshores. (not that I calculate it every week)

Pinnacle is usually right around 20% all other bookmakers around 30-35%.

5dimes used to be pretty low if I remember correctly but I do not play there anymore since Tony is afraid to take anymore than a $5 max bet from me on future bets at 20-1 or higher, $10 max on 10-1, and a whopping $20 max on anything with odds below 10-1.

5mike5 · 02-23-12, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Pinnacle is usually right around 20% all other bookmakers around 30-35%. 5dimes used to be pretty low if I remember correctly but I do not play there anymore since Tony is afraid to take anymore than a $5 max bet from me on future bets at 20-1 or higher, $10 max on 10-1, and a whopping $20 max on anything with odds below 10-1.

damn glad im not in that situation there...thats brutal

no point in u playing at 5D if tony did that to you

Optional · 02-23-12, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Pinnacle is usually right around 20% all other bookmakers around 30-35%. 5dimes used to be pretty low if I remember correctly but I do not play there anymore since Tony is afraid to take anymore than a $5 max bet from me on future bets at 20-1 or higher, $10 max on 10-1, and a whopping $20 max on anything with odds below 10-1.

Sounds like a compliment.

Thanks for the heads up about Pinnacle. Have to admit I assumed they would be around same as 5D.