F1 Austrian Grand Prix (2nd of 2) - July 12 2020 09:10 ET

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  • semibluff
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    F1 Austrian Grand Prix (2nd of 2) - July 12 2020 09:10 ET
    Technically this is the Grand Prix of Steiermark or Styrian Grand Prix rather than the 2nd Austrian Grand Prix, but effectively this is a reset and 2nd go at last week's race. I felt I had a pretty good handle on the last race. The main surprise for me was that McLaren had closed the gap to the Ferrari/Racing Point battle. Conditions are predicted to be similar so cars that were good last week should be good again this week.

    The win market is always subject to ridiculous juice so I rarely post about it. It's a surprise to see Leclerc and Vettel at +4500 and +6600. Those are fair, (but not +ev), prices considering how the car is. I expect Ferrari to be more sensible in Q2 this week and both car to start in the top 9. The podium finish market looks pretty tough but a couple of books have gone out on a limb with a few drivers. Bwin/Sportingbet have Vettel at +700, (estimated true odds +550) whilst BetVictor/Betway have Sainz at +1400, (estimated true odds +1060). Several books have Norris at a shorter price than Sainz for both win and podium. If you can get a decent price for Sainz head-to-head against Norris then take it. I estimate Sainz' true odds at -128 to beat Norris. There is a reason why Sainz beat Norris most races last year in the same car and why Ferrari picked him to replace Vettel in 2021. Norris is not suddenly the better driver. Best odds i've seen are -117 on both H2H. It's value, but i'm looking for better from books with Norris favourite. I still have Giovinazzi a -103 favourite to beat Räikkönen. Last week he was +240 but that book has tightened up and posted +110 for this race. It's still a bit of value. There could be better odds out there.

    I don't want to get into an argument with @Optional but I don't rate Stroll as a top F1 driver. He's not garbage, he deserves to be in F1, but I take Ferrari and McLaren drivers to beat him. Ferrari are -167 vs Racing Point H2H which I think is fair, although it's not exactly 2 Ferrari vs 1 Racing Point, (Perez). McLaren are -125 to beat Racing Point H2H and that's also a fair price. (Both priced at Sportingbet). There might be a bit of value in there since Ferrari and McLaren were reliable last week whilst Racing Point had 1 car, (Stroll), fail to finish.

    Overall it's tougher this week. Good luck with your bets.
  • semibluff
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    Quick weather related heads-up. Friday is expected to be sunny and VERY HOT, (31C/88f). Saturday projects RAIN, possibly thunderstorms, and MUCH colder, (21C/70F). Sunday is expected to be a normal dry day, (23C/73F). There hasn't been a wet session in preseason testing or for last weekend. (P1 started damp last week but it was effectively dry).

    IF this holds up expect P1 to be very busy. Mercedes would be very difficult to beat on the timing charts in P1 if they do a lot of laps. On the other hand Qualifying could be a complete lottery. BE CAREFUL!

    Many of the European books have removed or are otherwise not showing H2H odds. Cowards! Like this sport wasn't tough enough to beat or over-juiced before.
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    • kjack25
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-07-19
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      #3
      Is there value betting Verstappen to win or do you think Mercedes will take it?
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      • Optional
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        • 06-10-10
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        #4
        Originally posted by semibluff
        I don't want to get into an argument with @Optional but I don't rate Stroll as a top F1 driver.
        Well if you are going to put words in my mouth, that I definitely never said or thought, you might get a bloody argument from me! But I think Stroll is kind of shit really, and much prefer discussion than argument.

        Not sure why you seem to get personally hurt when I don't agree with you about your -150 tips every race. I'd be happy for you if you were right! It's not a competition, you can be happy for me even if you think all my fastest lap and dog bets are square too if you want.


        If you had not discouraged discussion from me, I would have even shared this one with you btw.

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        • semibluff
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          #5
          Originally posted by kjack25
          Is there value betting Verstappen to win or do you think Mercedes will take it?
          I don't think there's any value on the Outright market. Normally the win market on the leading contenders is around 116%. That sort of juice requires 2 or 3 of the top competitors to be seriously overvalued for another competitor to be value. Based on the best available odds the book price has dropped from around 116% to 110% after P2, but I don't see any errors.

          Weather reports suggest Saturday will be a wash out. 22MM of rain are expected. IF Qualifying goes ahead on Saturday with wet tyres then grid positions will be a lottery. That obviously hurts the favourites. If Saturday is too wet then Qualifying will take place on Sunday. That seems more likely than Qualifying on Saturday. Sunday is projected to be dry so that would favour the favourites.

          My advice would be NOT to bet this race until the situation becomes clearer on Saturday evening.
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