1. 07-10-12 04:34 PM #71
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    dont remember, but just wanted to clarify for every1

    noticed this morning reading my notes again
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  2. 07-10-12 04:46 PM #72
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    Roush cars are all out of favor this week by looks.

    Agree nothing in Greek's openers grabs me as a must have early bet.
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  3. 07-10-12 04:49 PM #73
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    rousch guys suck here

    just off top of my head, think biff has 1 win, matt/edwards have 0 combined

    but could be slightly off
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  4. 07-10-12 05:02 PM #74
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    Still. Seems risky to leave 1st, 3rd and 10th in the championship all past the 5th line of betting.. from a books point of view.
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    well not if they have 1 combined win between the 3 drivers in about 50 races is it?

    past track performance means much more than where they are in chamionship standings

    i would think it would anyway
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    How sure are we that Denny will be healthy this week anyone?
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    was just back spasms

    doubt it would still be around...and havent heard anything else about it

    all these odds blow
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    kennseth and co. were here in knoxville, tn today doing an apperance

    didnt know about it til it was over though

    doing something for Bristol and came down here too
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    Good luck again this week, boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dad View Post
    Good luck again this week, boys.



    we going to need it this week
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    re: poker points

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    thanks for the info yis
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    Harder penalties I feel

    Nas.cr/bJUH
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    AJ speaks. Claims he has not knowingly taken anything.

    http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cu...b-sample-test/
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    So on NASCAR race hub they say results could be released tomorrow. If negative does he race this weekend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    Harder penalties I feel

    Nas.cr/bJUH
    6 points seems to be the standard. That seems less than the 100 points we might have expected for this sort of stuff last year.

    Anyone know why they are leaving vent hoses open in quali? I guess it lowers air pressure inside the car cabin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    So on NASCAR race hub they say results could be released tomorrow. If negative does he race this weekend?
    Yep.

    Sample B test is much more accurate than the test they use for A sample. So it's result over rides the A if different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    6 points seems to be the standard. That seems less than the 100 points we might have expected for this sort of stuff last year.

    Anyone know why they are leaving vent hoses open in quali? I guess it lowers air pressure inside the car cabin?
    Tonys team said it was an accident. The cap they use popped off on qualifying lap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Yep.

    Sample B test is much more accurate than the test they use for A sample. So it's result over rides the A if different.

    Just curious if Penske will put him in at Loudon if that's case
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    No doubt he would sue their ass off if they didnt.

    He might even sue NASCAR for releasing the info before B test if he is cleared. So NASCAR must be very sure it isn't a false positive type situation.
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    No doubt Opti. Gonna be a circus one way or other IMO
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    yeah they say 5 days, but mayfield was 1 day after he requested it
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    99% its also positive result

    never had a "B" come back neg., after "a" was positive out of about 20 positive tests

    he cant sue(would be pointless) them even if B sample is negitive, that doesnt matter....they have to go by "A" result, and since it was positive they have every right to say why he was suspended for daytona race for a positive drug test...but that is why that havent said the "substance" til B is tested
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    99% its also positive result

    nascar is smarter than that....

    he cant sue(would be pointless) them even if B sample is negitive, that doesnt matter....they have to go by "A" result, and since it was positive they have every right to say why he was suspended for daytona race for a positive drug test...but that is why that havent said the "substance" til B is tested
    You may be right. But I am pretty sure if AJ could show they were reckless in releasing the info he would have a civil case for damaging his career. If it was directly damaged by the release of false positive info of course.

    Just the way this has come about does suggest the + will be confirmed though.
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    hows it reckless though

    they cant let him drive that race with a positive test...no way...what are suppose to do?...sure cant let him race

    they didnt release the substance, for that very reason...

    *and if they didnt say anything, theres only 1 reason nascar would pull a driver out of the car, and thats a failed test so its really would be common knowledge anyway at that point
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    Hope he doesn't try a lawsuit after mayfield soap opera
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    -500 opiates

    -300 banned performace drug (roids, diuretic, ect)

    +250 blow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Hope he doesn't try a lawsuit after mayfield soap opera
    oh god

    since he would not have a leg to stand on, no matter the test results on B, its a total soap opera waste of time
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    They mentioned on race hub he was going through a divorce, so maybe he went and did something when feeling down. I will be shocked if negative
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    They mentioned on race hub he was going through a divorce, so maybe he went and did something when feeling down. I will be shocked if negative
    -9999999 positive

    +5000000000 neg
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    Didn't know about that Vegas.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    hows it reckless though

    they cant let him drive that race with a positive test...no way...what are suppose to do?...sure cant let him race

    they didnt release the substance, for that very reason...

    *and if they didnt say anything, theres only 1 reason nascar would pull a driver out of the car, and thats a failed test so its really would be common knowledge anyway at that point
    I'm not saying it's reckless. I assume it's a serious and illegal substance because they did stand him down so fast.

    Was only saying if it does turn out to be one of the more problematic substances as far as false positives, AND sample B is negative, AND his career is hurt by it, he might have grounds for an action.

    I'd eat my hat if he simply takes the same litigious route Mayfield did for the sake of fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post

    -9999999 positive

    +5000000000 neg
    Can I have 1 point on negative please?

    1 to win 5 billion that is eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Didn't know about that Vegas.



    I'm not saying it's reckless. I assume it's a serious and illegal substance because they did stand him down so fast.

    Was only saying if it does turn out to be one of the more problematic substances as far as false positives, AND sample B is negative, AND his career is hurt by it, he might have grounds for an action.

    I'd eat my hat if he simply takes the same litigious route Mayfield did for the sake of fighting.
    Take your hat with or without ketchup
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    -500 opiates

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    those lines are worse than DSI's NASCAR lines!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    -9999999 positive

    +5000000000 neg
    gimme both sides for the max!
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