NEW HAMPSHIRE--5mike5

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 04:34 PM

dont remember, but just wanted to clarify for every1

noticed this morning reading my notes again

Optional · 07-10-12, 04:46 PM

Roush cars are all out of favor this week by looks.

Agree nothing in Greek's openers grabs me as a must have early bet.

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 04:49 PM

rousch guys suck here

just off top of my head, think biff has 1 win, matt/edwards have 0 combined

but could be slightly off

Optional · 07-10-12, 05:02 PM

Still. Seems risky to leave 1st, 3rd and 10th in the championship all past the 5th line of betting.. from a books point of view.

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 05:04 PM

well not if they have 1 combined win between the 3 drivers in about 50 races is it?

past track performance means much more than where they are in chamionship standings

i would think it would anyway

Optional · 07-10-12, 05:05 PM

How sure are we that Denny will be healthy this week anyone?

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 05:06 PM

was just back spasms

doubt it would still be around...and havent heard anything else about it

all these odds blow

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 05:08 PM

kennseth and co. were here in knoxville, tn today doing an apperance

didnt know about it til it was over though

doing something for Bristol and came down here too

Dad · 07-10-12, 05:24 PM

Good luck again this week, boys.

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by Dad

Good luck again this week, boys.

we going to need it this week

yisman · 07-10-12, 05:29 PM

re: poker points

no, points won at ring tables don't need to be rolled, they're your points. Just points won from tournaments (with the exception of some prizes for weekend tournaments)

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 05:34 PM

thanks for the info yis

shaunovery · 07-10-12, 05:45 PM

Harder penalties I feel

Nas.cr/bJUH

Optional · 07-10-12, 06:16 PM

AJ speaks. Claims he has not knowingly taken anything.

http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-aj-allmendinger-requests-b-sample-test/

Vegas39 · 07-10-12, 06:17 PM

So on NASCAR race hub they say results could be released tomorrow. If negative does he race this weekend?

Optional · 07-10-12, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by shaunovery

Harder penalties I feel

Nas.cr/bJUH

6 points seems to be the standard. That seems less than the 100 points we might have expected for this sort of stuff last year.

Anyone know why they are leaving vent hoses open in quali? I guess it lowers air pressure inside the car cabin?

Optional · 07-10-12, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

So on NASCAR race hub they say results could be released tomorrow. If negative does he race this weekend?

Yep.

Sample B test is much more accurate than the test they use for A sample. So it's result over rides the A if different.

Vegas39 · 07-10-12, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Optional

6 points seems to be the standard. That seems less than the 100 points we might have expected for this sort of stuff last year.

Anyone know why they are leaving vent hoses open in quali? I guess it lowers air pressure inside the car cabin?

Tonys team said it was an accident. The cap they use popped off on qualifying lap

Vegas39 · 07-10-12, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Yep.

Sample B test is much more accurate than the test they use for A sample. So it's result over rides the A if different.

Just curious if Penske will put him in at Loudon if that's case

Optional · 07-10-12, 06:23 PM

No doubt he would sue their ass off if they didnt.

He might even sue NASCAR for releasing the info before B test if he is cleared. So NASCAR must be very sure it isn't a false positive type situation.

Vegas39 · 07-10-12, 06:24 PM

No doubt Opti. Gonna be a circus one way or other IMO

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 06:37 PM

yeah they say 5 days, but mayfield was 1 day after he requested it

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 06:38 PM

99% its also positive result

never had a "B" come back neg., after "a" was positive out of about 20 positive tests

he cant sue(would be pointless) them even if B sample is negitive, that doesnt matter....they have to go by "A" result, and since it was positive they have every right to say why he was suspended for daytona race for a positive drug test...but that is why that havent said the "substance" til B is tested

Optional · 07-10-12, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

99% its also positive result

nascar is smarter than that....

he cant sue(would be pointless) them even if B sample is negitive, that doesnt matter....they have to go by "A" result, and since it was positive they have every right to say why he was suspended for daytona race for a positive drug test...but that is why that havent said the "substance" til B is tested

You may be right. But I am pretty sure if AJ could show they were reckless in releasing the info he would have a civil case for damaging his career. If it was directly damaged by the release of false positive info of course.

Just the way this has come about does suggest the + will be confirmed though.

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 06:48 PM

hows it reckless though

they cant let him drive that race with a positive test...no way...what are suppose to do?...sure cant let him race

they didnt release the substance, for that very reason...

*and if they didnt say anything, theres only 1 reason nascar would pull a driver out of the car, and thats a failed test so its really would be common knowledge anyway at that point

Vegas39 · 07-10-12, 06:52 PM

Hope he doesn't try a lawsuit after mayfield soap opera

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 06:53 PM

-500 opiates

-300 banned performace drug (roids, diuretic, ect)

+250 blow

+1000 pot

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Hope he doesn't try a lawsuit after mayfield soap opera

oh god

since he would not have a leg to stand on, no matter the test results on B, its a total soap opera waste of time

Vegas39 · 07-10-12, 06:58 PM

They mentioned on race hub he was going through a divorce, so maybe he went and did something when feeling down. I will be shocked if negative

5mike5 · 07-10-12, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

They mentioned on race hub he was going through a divorce, so maybe he went and did something when feeling down. I will be shocked if negative

-9999999 positive

+5000000000 neg

Optional · 07-10-12, 07:05 PM

Didn't know about that Vegas.

Originally posted by 5mike5

hows it reckless though

they cant let him drive that race with a positive test...no way...what are suppose to do?...sure cant let him race

they didnt release the substance, for that very reason...

*and if they didnt say anything, theres only 1 reason nascar would pull a driver out of the car, and thats a failed test so its really would be common knowledge anyway at that point

I'm not saying it's reckless. I assume it's a serious and illegal substance because they did stand him down so fast.

Was only saying if it does turn out to be one of the more problematic substances as far as false positives, AND sample B is negative, AND his career is hurt by it, he might have grounds for an action.

I'd eat my hat if he simply takes the same litigious route Mayfield did for the sake of fighting.

Optional · 07-10-12, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

-9999999 positive

+5000000000 neg

Can I have 1 point on negative please?

1 to win 5 billion that is eh?

Vegas39 · 07-10-12, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Didn't know about that Vegas.

I'm not saying it's reckless. I assume it's a serious and illegal substance because they did stand him down so fast.

Was only saying if it does turn out to be one of the more problematic substances as far as false positives, AND sample B is negative, AND his career is hurt by it, he might have grounds for an action.

I'd eat my hat if he simply takes the same litigious route Mayfield did for the sake of fighting.

Take your hat with or without ketchup

yisman · 07-10-12, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

-500 opiates

-300 banned performace drug (roids, diuretic, ect)

+250 blow

+1000 pot

those lines are worse than DSI's NASCAR lines!

yisman · 07-10-12, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

-9999999 positive

+5000000000 neg

gimme both sides for the max!