Afl 2012

[hawley]

Did Folau play?

any potential there?

[garygroundwork]

Great to see GWS coming out so strongly. I'm not sure if I can put up with a smug Sheedy if these keeps up throughout the year though!

it won't keep up. when the real stuff starts they will get rolled. no one gives a **** at the moment.

still u r right, they look good.plenty of potential there.

[brettels]

I haven't bet them, but i would have lost money if i did! tonight was really boring to watch! i didn't see the 2nd half of the last two games!

[Lookingtostart]

If you are going to bet on these "who cares" matches, bet the underdog.

[kingsr]

This really is the "who cares" cup

EXACTLY...that's why i stay the f*ck AWAY!

[johno35]

This really is the "who cares" cup

Agreed! Just nice to have footy back!

[brettels]

what is NAB cup?

Just like a pre season tournament / trial type thing?

NAB is a bank in australia that is the main sponsor of the pre season comp!

[MatI]

Great to see GWS coming out so strongly. I'm not sure if I can put up with a smug Sheedy if these keeps up throughout the year though!

[brettels]

This really is the "who cares" cup

[johno35]

Think I might go for GWS +35.5, pies struggled to score with the young team and I cant see them winning by 6 goals

[johno35]

Avoided the first game but before I saw how bad bulldogs were before that first game I put money on dogs +7.5 against pies. I heard how many the pies had out and that the dogs were almost full strength so I thought the dogs would win straight up. Just got over the line!

[brettels]

There has been no quality to the level of what last nights entertainment brought us. Hope you didn't play those lines johno

[johno35]

If doggies (almost full strength) couldn't beat GWS by more than 5 goals I cant see them getting anywhere near the 8. Who is going to kick their goals? Jones looks promising but cant kick, they cant simply keep relying on their running game

[GroundnPound]

Doggies are a shocking team

[brettels]

GWS will either have a better debut than gc suns or the doggies are just a shocking team now

[kingsr]

I'd probably go with every favourite line in this mix up.

I concur with that statement...but I dont touch NAB cup, only if im completely desperate for action.

[brettels]

What does everyone think of the lines for tonights matches?

Bulldogs -30.5 vs GWS
Pies -7.5 vs Bulldogs
Pies -35.5 vs GWS

The worry I have is GWS will come out to play and the Dogs and Pies will just be treating it like a training run. Thinking maybe the pies -7.5 is the best bet...

I'd probably go with every favourite line in this mix up.

[johno35]

What does everyone think of the lines for tonights matches?

Bulldogs -30.5 vs GWS
Pies -7.5 vs Bulldogs
Pies -35.5 vs GWS

The worry I have is GWS will come out to play and the Dogs and Pies will just be treating it like a training run. Thinking maybe the pies -7.5 is the best bet...

[brettels]

From sportal for tonights matches

LAST YEAR'S NAB CUP: Collingwood swept past Richmond and Carlton in last year's opening-round tri-series before accounting for Sydney by 14 points in a quarter-final, the Eagles by 24 in the semis then the Bombers in the grand final. The Bulldogs didn't make it past the opening round where they traded a 31-point win over North Melbourne for a 21-point loss to Geelong. The Giants also failed to advance after straight-sets losses to the Sydney Swans by a whopping 79 points and Gold Coast, 28.

WE THINK: The Magpies' priority is to finish the season strongly, not to burst from the blocks, but they must be strongly favoured to advance from this group. New coach Nathan Buckley is keen to get miles into the legs of his senior players and try out some youngsters such as ruck prospects Jarrod Witts, John Ceglar and U.S. import Shae McNamara. First-year Bulldogs coach Brendan McCartney will unveil his new game plan with its emphasis on winning the contested ball, and a revamped forward structure in which Liam Jones and Jordan Roughead will figure prominently. The Dogs will be keen to ensure that former team-mate Callan Ward's first game as the Giants co-captain will be one to remember. And what of GWS? Winning is out of the question, so they'll be judged by their competitiveness and the all-important first impressions of their top-end draftees. Israel Folau gets the chance to prove he's the real deal and not just a promotional vessel, and Kevin Sheedy returns to the match-day saddle. Pulling the right reins won't make any difference. It's Collingwood, comfortably.

READ

[brettels]

GWS to score a goal vs collingwood
yes 1.10

no 6.00

GWS to score a goal vs western bulldogs
yes 1.02

no 11.00

[kingsr]

What's GWS paying to not score a goal? That's a worthy prop!

[brettels]

Sadly for saturday night it is GWS, Collingwood and bulldogs, although i am looking forward to seeing how israel folau steps up in the switch!

Here are the squads!

Western Bulldogs
1. Jarrad Grant, 2. Robert Murphy, 3. Mitch Wallis, 4. Daniel Cross, 5. Matthew Boyd, 8. Patrick Veszpremi, 10. Easton Ward, 12. Tom Williams, 13. Daniel Giansiracusa, 14. Clay Smith, 16. Ryan Griffen, 19. Liam Jones, 21. Tom Liberatore, 22. Dylan Addison, 23. Jordan Roughead, 25. Ryan Hargrave, 26. Zephaniah Skinner, 27. Will Minson, 29. Tory Dickson, 30. Christian Howard, 32, Michael Talia, 37. Lukas Markovic, 40. Luke Dahlhaus, 42, Liam Picken, 48. Matthew Panos, 49. Ayce Cordy
GWS
1. Phil Davis, 2. Curtly Hampton, 3. Stephen Coniglio, 4. Israel Folau, 6. Luke Power, 8. Callan Ward, 9. Tom Scully, 11. Chad Cornes, 13. Sam Darley, 14. Tomas Bugg, 15. Tim Golds, 16. Nathan Wilson, 18. Jeremy Cameron, 19. Nick Haynes, 20. Adam Tomlinson, 22. Shaun Edwards, 23. Sam Reid, 24. Steve Clifton, 25. Anthony Miles, 26. Jonathan Giles, 27. Andrew Phillips, 28. Liam Sumner, 29. Dom Tyson, 31. Jacob Townsend, 32. Gerald Ugle, 34. Devon Smith, 35. Toby Greene, 36. Jack Hombsch, 38. James McDonald, 39. Tim Mohr, 42. Mark Whiley, 44. Tom Downie, 47. Josh Bruce, 49. Rhys Cooyou
Collingwood
1. Alex Fasolo, 6. Tyson Goldsack, 12. Luke Ball, 13. Dale Thomas, 15. Jarrod Witts, 18. Darren Jolly, 22. Steele Sidebottom, 23. Lachlan Keeffe, 25. Tom Young, 27. Simon Buckley, 28. Ben Sinclair, 29. Jonathan Ceglar, 30. Brent Macaffer, 31. Chris Dawes, 33. Jackson Paine, 34. Alan Toovey, 36. Dane Swan, 38. Peter Yagmoor, 39. Heath Shaw, 40. Paul Seedsman, 45. Lachlan Smith, 46. Marley Williams, 47. Michael Hartley, 48. Caolan Mooney, 50. Shae McNamara

[kingsr]

Bye wifey

[brettels]

HAHA! You know which one to get rid of, say good bye to the wife!

[kingsr]

Its the best thing since the playboy mansion, maybe not but its my favourite channel! I'm going to be very pale by the end of footy season.

Seriously, how the F*CK am i gonna leave the couch now? I'm sensing a divorce coming on by end of season

[brettels]

Its the best thing since the playboy mansion, maybe not but its my favourite channel! I'm going to be very pale by the end of footy season.

[kingsr]

Thats like premature ejeculation on my part

God I love this AFL FOOTY channel!

[brettels]

Yeah i think the only thing to be brought over to the regular season will be the video replay

the out of bounds rule is rubbish

[MatI]

what is NAB cup?

Just like a pre season tournament

Also AFL uses it to try out some new/quirky rules, to see how they work in competition. eg. 9 points for goal from outside of 50 metre mark. I also believe they are trialling video replay system in hope of introduction in regular season.

[hawley]

what is NAB cup?

Just like a pre season tournament / trial type thing?

[MatI]

I guess this means Tigers for top 4 too!

It's great to see AFL back!

[brettels]

HAWKS TOP 4 $2.00 what a steal!!!!!!!!!!!!

TIGERS defeat the hawks 40-37

[kingsr]

HAWKS TOP 4 $2.00 what a steal!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brettels]

Hawks beat roos 53-28

[brettels]

Hawks are brilliant!