Afl 2012

[brettels]

When we were closing in to kick a sealer at the end, a clear clothes line on a richmond player near the ball goes un noticed! Also if miller could convert better we would have won! Still happy to be watching footy!

[alias69]

They had chances m8. Some dumb finishing in front off goal, cost em in the end.

[aussieH]

Sounded like we controlled the match and found a way to lose

Down to the pub to watch the second match.

[brettels]

What a crock o shiiiiit. Richmond played a way better game then! 44-41 to north.

[brettels]

I'm so happy with my fox footy channel

[brettels]

Marc lecras out for the whole year! Big loss for the eagles

[Gee]

Yeah, strong sides.

I'm having a cheeky ML parlay on Aus in the cricket into Hawks over North paying about EV for fun.

Not that I know f-all about the NAB cup, where teams are at and how the recruits are going.

[brettels]

Very strong line ups for all teams

RICHMOND
2. Dylan Grimes, 4. Dustin Martin, 6. Shaun Grigg, 7. Matt Dea, 8. Jack Riewoldt, 9. Trent Cotchin, 10. Shane Edwards, 11. Jake Batchelor, 13, Brad Miller, 14. Bachar Houli, 16. Luke McGuane, 17. Chris Newman, 18. Alex Rance, 20. Ivan Maric, 21. Shane Tuck, 23. Daniel Jackson, 25. Angus Graham, 26. Robin Nahas, 28. Jake King, 29. Tyrone Vickery, 30. Reece Conca, 32. Brad Helbig, 35. Matthew White, 37. Jayden Post, 38. Steven Morris, 39. Tom Derickx, 41. Nathan Foley, 42. Brandon Ellis, 43. Todd Elton, 44. Matt Arnot, 45. Brett O'Hanlon, 46. Jeromey Webberley, 47. Addam Maric, 49. Steven Verrier

NORTH MELBOURNE
1. Hamish McIntosh, 3. Ryan Bastinac, 4 Liam Anthony, 5. Ben Warren, 6. Lachlan Hansen, 7. Jack Ziebell, 9. Andrew Swallow, 10. Ben Cunnington, 11. Michael Firrito, 12. Lindsay Thomas, 13. Leigh Adams, 14. Gavin Urquhart, 15. Luke Delaney, 16. Scott Thompson, 17. Nathan Grima, 18. Shaun Atley, 20. Drew Petrie, 22. Todd Goldstein, 23. Kieran Harper, 24. Levi Greenwood, 25. Robbie Tarrant, 26. Ben McKinley, 27. Aaron Edwards, 29. Brent Harvey, 31. Cameron Delaney, 33. Matthew Campbell, 34. Jamie Macmillan, 35. Aaron Black, 39. Cameron Pedersen, 41. Aaron Mullett, 42. Scott McMahon, 43. Sam Gibson, 45. Brad Mangan, 46. Ben Speight.

HAWTHORN
3. Jordan Lewis, 4. Matt Suckling, 5. Sam Mitchell, 6. Josh Gibson, 9. Shaun Burgoyne, 10. Chance Bateman, 11. Clinton Young, 12. Brad Sewell, 14. Grant Birchall, 15. Luke Hodge, 16. Isaac Smith, 17. Cameron Bruce, 18. Brent Guerra, 19. Jack Gunston, 21. Shane Savage, 22. Luke Breust, 23. Lance Franklin, 24. Ben Stratton, 25. Ryan Schoenmakers, 26. Liam Shiels, 28. Paul Puopolo, 29. Tom Murphy, 31. Jarrad Boumann, 32. Brad Hill, 33. Cyril Rioli, 34. Jordan Kelly, 35. Sam Grimley, 36. Alex Woodward, 37. Brendan Whitecross, 39. Max Bailey, 40. Broc McCauley, 42. Angus Litherland, 45. Tom Schneider, 46. Derick Wanganeen

[brettels]

Sportal is one of my favourite sites to read a preview, here is a cut and paste of there summary in their preview for friday nights encounter between hawks, tigers and roos.

WE THINK:
Finding good form in the NAB Cup should be a priority for Hawthorn. They have had four months to stew over their heartbreaking preliminary final loss to Collingwood and will need to be hitting their straps at the start of the season with the Magpies and Geelong confronting them in the opening two rounds. Hawks fans will be excited to see Adelaide recruit Jack Gunston pull on the brown and gold after he booted four goals in a practice match in Launceston last week. Richmond will attack the NAB Cup with a more experienced line-up this season, a different approach to that the club has taken in recent years. However, the Tigers have said they would make fine-tuning their tinkered game plan a priority over winning in the NAB Cup. Part of that will be adapting to having an extra senior ruckman with former Crow Ivan Maric set to boost their big man stocks. The pre-season will also be the perfect test of how far young gun midfielders Trent Cotchin and Dustin Martin have developed. North Melbourne will field a strong side and coach Brad Scott will be eager to show they've developed since finishing ninth in 2011. Both Todd Goldstein and Hamish McIntosh are fit and firing and that means the Roos have two dominant ruckman and should control stoppages. It's not known whether having them in the same team would make North too top heavy but Friday night should give us an insight. The Kangas believe small forward Lindsay Thomas has resolved the kicking yips that saw him boot 21.36 last year. He managed an impressive 4.1 at windy old Ballarat earlier this month but will old habits return under the Etihad Stadium roof? With Drew Petrie, Lance Franklin and Jack Riewoldt pulling on the boots each side will boast ample goal-kicking ability. However, Hawthorn, favourites to lift the trophy, should have too much class across the ground for both the Tigers and Roos.

read the full preview here ARTICLE

[brettels]

Gee, you know you want to! there will be some money to be made after these round robins! I've decided to be a degenerate and make some bets during the NAB!

[Gee]

I'm not taking the NAB cup seriously at all.

Does it start this weekend?

Could not give a **** about it. Ridiculous competition with clown rules. They may as well play under the big top. I'll only be watching it because I have to as part of my trying to figure out where each team is at. AFL is one game that you cannot survive on stats.

I will not be starting looking through anything in any depth though until early March. That gives me 3 weeks until season proper starts, which will be more than enough time.

[brettels]

Difficult to tell who will take the NAB serious this year London! Will get more of an idea when we know who will be playing or not! I think it will be easier when the full matches start instead of the round robins! That said I've never bet a futures on the NAB cup in my life!

[stuckinlondon]

Any thoughts on NAB winner though? May be some value on someone like a Carlton (9.00 @ Centrebet) looking to win something and taking it more seriously than Collingwood, Hawthorn and Geelong?

[brettels]

I don't think many people do donkson, still excited to get some sort of footy even though i hate the way the NAB is run.

[donkson]

meh.

unless the lines are set weird because of 40min games + supergoals, don't think I'll touch the round robins.

[brettels]

Friday night opening nab cup matches

Richmond vs Nth melbourne
2.00 1.75

Nth Melbourne vs Hawthorn
2.80 1.40

Hawthorn vs Richmond
1.36 3.00

TABsportsbet odds

[brettels]

anticipation

[donkson]

btw if anyone still want to take Hawthorn for the premiership, I saw you can get 6.30 at 5D which is way higher than anyone else.

[brettels]

Now seriously, get on richmond @4.00 to make the 8, better than freo! Put a lazy 5k on it and thank me later.

[donkson]

yeah results are terrible indicators of strength.

[garygroundwork]

freo are so unpredictable...i hate putting money on them.

[kingsr]

Of course people will be blinded by the ladder positions they finished last year. Anyway the season is almost upon us...I suppose we will see.

[donkson]

lol.

[brettels]

Lets not over react!

[kingsr]

Better Players.

[donkson]

how do fremantle have a better team than WC?

[kingsr]

Brettels, get on HAWKS Top 4, its paying a ridiculous $2.00 with TAB...everywhere else is $1.65!

[kingsr]

Great thread! AFL is an easier sport to predict than league. So much unexpected surprises in league, im almost tempted to not touch the reg season and just play AFL.

I dont care what the line is in the Sydney Vs GWS game 1st round, im taking sydney even if the line is 100!

Frremantle will be a team to watch in 2012, they have a better team than west coast, but injuries have been a concern for them in the past. If they can retain a fairly healthy side (unlike 2011) I see them definitely with a good chance to make the 8. Great odds on them atm.

[brettels]

brissie against the dees ats looks a gud value bet. lions do ok against the dees here. if its around 3-4 goals, jump on it. bol

Why do you think this Alias?

[alias69]

brissie against the dees ats looks a gud value bet. lions do ok against the dees here. if its around 3-4 goals, jump on it. bol

[brettels]

Still around LTS??? points for odds screenshots uploaded again!

[brettels]

say you put $5,000 on each, you would make 500+ more on the hawk bet

[brettels]

If you treated sports investment like a standard investment portfolio, you'd be all over those Hawthorn 1.18 top 8's (and the Storm top 8 one at similar odds in the NRL), I just don't like my money being tied up for that long. Plus you have to subtract from those odds the opportunity cost of having your money in a 6% interest account for the year.

**edited post

I get ya, but in the end after a monthly pay from an interest earning account you'd still earn more on the 1.18....

[benrama]

If you treated sports investment like a standard investment portfolio, you'd be all over those Hawthorn 1.18 top 8's (and the Storm top 8 one at similar odds in the NRL), I just don't like my money being tied up for that long. Plus you have to subtract from those odds the opportunity cost of having your money in a 6% interest account for the year.

[brettels]

AFL Futures

My favourite safe odds to make top 8 currently Hawthorn 1.18 & Carlton 1.25 ..... safe

Premiership - Hawthorn 6.50 I think its there year at the moment