Handicappers

[probettor1]

no problem, not hating on anyone at all, just that her inconsistencies in her posts answers bother me, I've been around a long long time in this racing game and this just "smells like a sell" to me.
Done with this, G/L to you.

Dont leave yet bro. If you think she is out of line you should give us the numbers.

[selections 101]

All I was doing was posting the winners for the day and totaled the money you would spend if wagering $2 Thats not what I'm betting, when I posted the horses I didnt say how to bet them, what I was betting. If you read my other posts you would see I play mostly only win bets, on horses that reach higher odds. once in a while when there is a lot of value I'll play the exotics. I'm a poor bettor that's what brought me here in the first place to posts my husbands plays, not say how to play them. I want someone to do that for me and I'll give them exclusive picks

[probettor1]

no problem, not hating on anyone at all, just that her inconsistencies in her posts answers bother me, I've been around a long long time in this racing game and this just "smells like a sell" to me.
Done with this, G/L to you.

selections101 he has a point there, I've been asking and you dont answer to me either, I'm not into horses but this guy is, if people dont get your point you might be hurting your thread.

[Dark Horse]

All I was doing was posting the winners for the day and totaled the money you would spend if wagering $2 Thats not what I'm betting, when I posted the horses I didnt say how to bet them, what I was betting. If you read my other posts you would see I play mostly only win bets, on horses that reach higher odds. once in a while when there is a lot of value I'll play the exotics. I'm a poor bettor that's what brought me here in the first place to posts my husbands plays, not say how to play them. I want someone to do that for me and I'll give them exclusive picks

This can't be done without knowing the handicapping behind the picks. Based on that you would need to translate each pick into a winning expectation (a percentage), and compare that with the odds on the tote board. You would then adjust your bet size depending on the difference between the two values, and you could set a minimum overlay before you would pull the trigger. None of this can be done without a winning expectation, and that expectation should be based on the method, rather than the results.

[selections 101]

The selections are posted in the order my husband picks them, so the first pick for each race is his top, and so forth. I play each horse that reaches 8-1 or higher at 0 min. to post, and that's it. I play 1% of our bankroll, and increase it by 5% each loss. Once in a while I will play the exotics, if 2 horses have odds together of 25 or more.

[Dark Horse]

The selections are posted in the order my husband picks them, so the first pick for each race is his top, and so forth. I play each horse that reaches 8-1 or higher at 0 min. to post, and that's it. I play 1% of our bankroll, and increase it by 5% each loss. Once in a while I will play the exotics, if 2 horses have odds together of 25 or more.

Just tell your husband to calculate and add his own lines to the info he gives you. If he does that, you can do the rest. Translate that line as well as the odds on the tote board into a percentage. If you don't know how to do that, learn it. And base your bet size on the overlay; the difference between the two percentages.

[probettor1]

Just tell your husband to calculate and add his own lines to the info he gives you. If he does that, you can do the rest. Translate that line as well as the odds on the tote board into a percentage. If you don't know how to do that, learn it. And base your bet size on the overlay; the difference between the two percentages.

Dark horse, stop being captain obvious and give the girl some real help man. She has been telling here that she doesnt know how to place her bets. If you dont know how to pick a winner, learn it. Yeah, like you are being very helpful there.

[Dark Horse]

First of all, you don't seem to understand it, because it has nothing to do with 'picking winners', but with finding value. And she asks people here to help her with that, which is impossible unless the guy sets his own lines. If that is so obvious to you, why didn't you tell her in the first place?

[selections 101]

Eds Selections Hollywood Park 6/21

Hollywood Park 6/21/2012 Races Horses 1 2 Tribal Dreams, 1 Pop The Cork, 7 Super Candy 2 5 Miceli, 1 Salutos Amigos, 7 Speedinthruthecity 3 2 Half Moon Gambler, 4 Snackable, 6 Pursuitofparadise 4 2 Zombyslayermrdarcy, 3 Hollywood Heist, 7 Chapman's Peak 5 8 Miss Speed Dating, 6 Ruffled Feathers 6 1 Zenett, 5 Red Intrigue, 7 Malibu Love 7 2 Orientatious, 1 Gem Of Soul 8 4 Wellington Beauty, 8 Citizen Bernstein, 3 Ruler Of The Tribe

[probettor1]

First of all, you don't seem to understand it, because it has nothing to do with 'picking winners', but with finding value. And she asks people here to help her with that, which is impossible unless the guy sets his own lines. If that is so obvious to you, why didn't you tell her in the first place?

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If you don't know how to do that, learn it

" You could say where to read about it or give her some idea. telling people to learn to make picks or to calculate juice is something which is obvious. No need to be said.

[Dark Horse]

"" You could say where to read about it or give her some idea. telling people to learn to make picks or to calculate juice is something which is obvious. No need to be said.

If you know it all, as you seem to think, how come you don't know that very few horse players calculate their own lines? That's what her husband needs to do, and her problem will be solved. It's the most direct answer to her question.

[probettor1]

If you know it all, as you seem to think, how come you don't know that very few horse players calculate their own lines? That's what her husband needs to do, and her problem will be solved. It's the most direct answer to her question.

Yes, the same in sports betting, you get your line, then compare with the bookies line, we do it in points in sports. Ho do you do it in horse racing? Minutes?

[Dark Horse]

Yes, the same in sports betting, you get your line, then compare with the bookies line, we do it in points in sports. Ho do you do it in horse racing? Minutes?

Lord, have mercy.

I thought it was all so overly obvious to you? Now you're going to calculate lines for horses in minutes?

[probettor1]

Lord, have mercy.

I thought it was all so overly obvious to you? Now you're going to calculate lines for horses in minutes?

You still dont get it, what is obvious is that she needs some help and you are not helping much by telling her that she need to learn whatever she is asking help for.

[probettor1]

I'm not into horses, but she is nice, funny and a down to earth person, tha's why I keep coming here.

[Dark Horse]

You still dont get it, what is obvious is that she needs some help and you are not helping much by telling her that she need to learn whatever she is asking help for.

You're simply not informed enough to understand that what I told her is exactly what she or her husband needs to know. In addition, you're suggesting that help should not require any possibility of learning something; in a field that requires continuous learning...

I'm not into horses, but she is nice, funny and a down to earth person, tha's why I keep coming here.

That much was obvious.

[probettor1]

You're simply not informed enough to understand that what I told her is exactly what she or her husband needs to know. In addition, you're suggesting that help should not require any possibility of learning something; in a field that requires continuous learning...



That much was obvious.

Dark Horse you are being a little Dark here.

[probettor1]

That much was obvious.

With an house edge of 20% and the fixed races who the hell make money in horse racing? In sports the house has a 5% edge and athletes in main sports make millions per month. They are less likely to be fixed.

[Dark Horse]

With an house edge of 20% ...... who the hell make money in horse racing?

Now you're on the right track. So the lines for the horses add up to 120%, but the payout is only 100%. That's why it's important to set your own lines for each horse, and bet only when you find enough of an overlay.

[probettor1]

Now you're on the right track. So the lines for the horses add up to 120%, but the payout is only 100%. That's why it's important to set your own lines for each horse, and bet only when you find enough of an overlay.

Dark horse, you sound like a really nice guy too, and you probably have extensive knowledge in horse racing but with over 13000 posts/7 years membership and only 62 sbr points make me think that you havent been able to beat the 20% juice of the race books. Unless you have your points in the sportbook account.

[selections 101]

Hey thanks again probettor1 for standing up for me. Have been working not able to talk much today. Dark Horse I understand what you are saying, and thank you for helping also. My goal is not to learn how to find value, my goal is to find a betting partner. I directed a childcare, now I Nanny for 2 kids, that is my forte. I enjoy the horses, love the idea of making money, and am positive with the right bettor I could be making much more. How I find value in my plays is by doing the ROIs on all the odds and seeing what is best. Naturally favorites are never winning ROIs. I also look at ROIs of field sizes, and use that with the ROIs of the odds. I will also try and run ROIs on surfaces, the order of Eds picks, and distance. I agree I am always trying to learn

[selections 101]

Results for 6/21 Race Horse w p s 1 2 3.40 2.20 2.10 1 1 2.80 2 7 9.20 5.00 3.40 2 1 6.00 4.20 2 5 3.60 Exacta $1 7,1 20.70 Trifecta $1 7,1,5 179.70 4 7 5.40 3.40 2.60 6 5 14.40 5.80 3.20 6 7 2.40 8 4 5.80 4.60 8 3 5.60

[selections 101]

Hollywood Park 6/22/2012
Races Horses
1 7

Pregunta, 1 Mike's Asset, 5 Am Another Lover

2 4

Dave's Pacemaker, 6 Fire In The Wind

3 8

Sea Of Red, 2 Dancingtothestars, 7 Maiden Lane, 6 Three Blondes

4 1

Sea To Sky, 5 Fable Haven, 7 Time Lord, 8 Ormond Quay

5 5

Supreme Summit, 2 Gato Go Win, 1 Indian Firewater

6 7

On My Honor, 2 Killer Bear, 4 Woodmans Luck

7 3

Boat Trip, 6 Canuletmedowneasy

8 12

Deception Free, 9 Awesome Mike, 5 Minister Of Trade, 2 You Little Devil

[selections 101]

Results for 6/22


Race - Horse- W-P-S
2nd-6-20.20,6.20, 3.00
2nd-4- 3.20, 2.20
Exacta - 6,4 - 20.10
3rd - 2 - 5.20, 3, 2.80
$2- Double - 6,2 - 62.80
4th - 7 - 21.20, 8.40
6th - 4 - 3.20, 2.80
7th - 3 - 6.40, 4.00, 3.20
8th - 2 - 16.60, 7.80, 4.80
$2 - Double - 3,2 - 67.80

[probettor1]

I think dark horse got mad with the joke about the sbr points. he doesnt like dark humor.

[selections 101]

Lol... really he needs to lighten up a bit, most handicappers are probably too stressed to have a good sense of humor.....lol Today,s picks below.

Hollywood Park 6/23/2012

Races Horses

1 3 Trumpet Player Jay, 1 Big Wags

2 2 Yaletown, 7 Tiz A Brite Miss, 10 Warren's Passion, 6 Pied Diablita

3 1 The Whammer

4 3 Elusive Jackpot, 6 My Tricky Girl, 8 Stanwyck

5 6 Sweet Elation, 1 Last Memories, 8 The Bien's Gift

6 2 Riveting Reason, 1 Huntingman, 7 Da Ruler, 9 Blu Jon

7 11 Tina's Express, 7 Gypsy Friday, 2 Horsesanddivorces, 8 Not Kidding Around

8 7 Via Villaggio, 5 Open Water

9 8 Royal Marie, 4 Aunt Gert, 9 Satchmo's Muse, 5 Lauren's Lady

[selections 101]

Hey probettor1 good fights last night, Ed says tonights aren't so hot, what you think?

[probettor1]

Hey probettor1 good fights last night, Ed says tonights aren't so hot, what you think?

I started a thread last night rooting for maynard, he did won. But I havent had time to handicap today's fight, was with mlb. There will be action tonight, Dana was mad that guida was running all over, it might bring some unders.

[probettor1]

werdum fight tonight, he is very good, it could be a great fight.

[selections 101]

Ya I agree hoping for good ones no plays tonight for us

[probettor1]

werdum fight tonight, he is very good, it could be a great fight.

Won in the first round.

[selections 101]

Always glad to here of wins probettor1

Results for 6/23
1st - 3 - 12.40- 4.00- 3.80 - W
1 - 3.80 - S
2nd - 7 - 2.20 - S
3rd - 1 - 6.20, 4.40 - P
4th - 8 - 17.60 - 8.00 - P
5th - 8 - 7.20 - 4.20 - 2.60 - W
6 - 7.80 - 3.40 - P
$1- Exacta - 8,6 - 23.60
6th - 7 - 21.20,- 11.60 - 6.20 - W
$2 - Double - 8,7 - 61.20
7th - 2 - 7.80 - 4.40 - 3.60 - W
$2 - Double - 7,2 - 62.80
$1 - Pick 3 - 8,7,2 - 168.60
8th - 7- 5.40 - S
9th - 9 - 7.80 - S
9th - 5 - 3.80 - 3.00 - P

[selections 101]

Hollywood Park 6/24/2012
Races Horses
1 1

Living Our Dream, 6 Saint Cindy, 3 Katy's Kitty

2 2

Jet Blue Girl

3 5

Miss Oops, 6 Roman Charity

4 3

Lead Blocker, 7 Lakerville, 2 Brace Yourselves

5 3

Rossi Reserve, 2 Fast Eydie, 1 Classy Attraction

6 2

Eileen's Dream, 6 Perfecta, 1 Wild Truffles, 8 Creditcardroulette

7 5

Egg Drop, 2 Moonstruck Maya, 4 Big Honey Bee

8 1 Quaintly, 4 Capital Plan, 2 Cambina
9 4

Tribal Peace, 14 Get Goin Tizzy, 3 Girl On The Lam, 11 Wink And Wish

[probettor1]

Selections101 are you in any contest? It is a nice way to keep track of your earning. You also could set up a challenge vs any player. The forum has the software to keep record of everything. You just woud have to go to contest, then challenge and set it up. You will have the option of betting with free units and the winner take the points that are placed in the challenge at the end. for ej you could place 30 points and the other 30 and the winner at the end keep all the points automatically.

[selections 101]

Hey probettor1 not in contest as of yet but will definitely look into it, always thanks for the advice.