Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

Just saw the result. The money showed but the horse ran poorly.

I feel bad because this I'm pretty sure this is the 2nd horse in a row that you have asked about as a firster where I did not see the distance until after the race. I assumed they were 6 furlong races or 5 1/2. This one was 7/8ths . Pretty sure the last one was as well.
For the record, I feel as though any firster that has been pointed for a solid effort first out will NOT run 7/8ths in it's 1st race. Typically the condition book will alternate 6 and 7 furlongs every about 2 weeks. Trainers see these races 4-6 weeks before they run. Getting a baby ready to run 3/4's and 7/8ths is totally different. Most times, if the trainer is looking to pop 1st out, they will wait for the 6 furlong race.

I would always be at least a bit skeptical of a 7/8ths firster with a speed pedigree. Might be different if they are bred to go long but if you are thinking speed, I doubt I would trust them at that funky distance for a firster. And if they ARE bred to go long, 7/8ths can be a nice way to start but most times they are looking for 2 turns for the improvement.

Sorry I missed that JBEX.

no problem str..definitely on top munnings is a speed sire and that's a big part of what attracted me to her..really does make a lot of sense that a debuter with a sprinters pedigree overall should be running at 6f or less..7f could be a sign they're less serious or not really high on the horse..the route pedigree going 7f (or 6.5) first out has always made sense to me..A have to keep that in mind from now on..thanks str

[str]

no problem str..definitely on top munnings is a speed sire and that's a big part of what attracted me to her..really does make a lot of sense that a debuter with a sprinters pedigree overall should be running at 6f or less..7f could be a sign they're less serious or not really high on the horse..the route pedigree going 7f (or 6.5) first out has always made sense to me..A have to keep that in mind from now on..thanks str

Yeah, the more I think about it the more I ask myself stuff like, Do you ever remember a trainer "pointing" a firster towards a 7/8ths race unless the horse was slow?

The answer is, not that I can recall. And that would have been from 25 years. Kinda sez it all.

Really wished I had seen that prior to posting. My fault.

[JBEX]

hey str

have another interesting 2yo msw at gulfstream in R6 ..first time starter #4 captain (10-1)..6 workouts at ocala training center but ,like the other, about a 1 month gap along the way..maybe similar circumstances to the other where they might have missed a few (or at least a couple)..nice speed ,win early pedigree,dam could run and only foal to race was a decent runner .. one of the better jocks named to ride..kathleen o 'connell definitely solid with these types..only 6f today so that's not an issue lol

[str]

hey str

have another interesting 2yo msw at gulfstream in R6 ..first time starter #4 captain (10-1)..6 workouts at ocala training center but ,like the other, about a 1 month gap along the way..maybe similar circumstances to the other where they might have missed a few (or at least a couple)..nice speed ,win early pedigree,dam could run and only foal to race was a decent runner .. one of the better jocks named to ride..kathleen o 'connell definitely solid with these types..only 6f today so that's not an issue lol

Looks like a real solid field for a state bred MSW.

Some that ran very well last out in open MSW are in here. It's a nice race.

I see the gap in the workouts. I have no idea as to the clockers days they work at Ocala. It is 7 days a week at normal tracks but maybe not there?? No clue.

Of the 6 works, the 4 furthest back are Wednesdays. The last 2 are Thursdays. Could the horse have worked on a Sunday with no clockers?? Again, no clue but I do see that there are only 2 total works on some of those days which tells me there is a good chance that clockers are not there everyday. The one horse worked on Mondays and was the only horse that worked several times. Are these self reported??? Lol if so.

The works are 7,21,7,7,29,14 days apart. But the last work was a prep out of the gate 7 days ago for today.

All in all, I would revert back to my thoughts about works in general. Take them with a grain of salt. That said, the trainer is indeed solid with firsters, the owner comes from a family of breeders and sales insiders for the past 40 years. Everybody involved knows what they are doing with this horse.

Win early pedigree, likes the mud probably if it's that, solid rider, . It adds up to being alive going in. Should show a decent amount of money but the 2 horses coming out of the open MSW will draw plenty of action as well.

Very interesting race for sure. And yes, 6F. First thing I looked at.

[JBEX]

Looks like a real solid field for a state bred MSW.

Some that ran very well last out in open MSW are in here. It's a nice race.

I see the gap in the workouts. I have no idea as to the clockers days they work at Ocala. It is 7 days a week at normal tracks but maybe not there?? No clue.

Of the 6 works, the 4 furthest back are Wednesdays. The last 2 are Thursdays. Could the horse have worked on a Sunday with no clockers?? Again, no clue but I do see that there are only 2 total works on some of those days which tells me there is a good chance that clockers are not there everyday. The one horse worked on Mondays and was the only horse that worked several times. Are these self reported??? Lol if so.

The works are 7,21,7,7,29,14 days apart. But the last work was a prep out of the gate 7 days ago for today.

All in all, I would revert back to my thoughts about works in general. Take them with a grain of salt. That said, the trainer is indeed solid with firsters, the owner comes from a family of breeders and sales insiders for the past 40 years. Everybody involved knows what they are doing with this horse.

Win early pedigree, likes the mud probably if it's that, solid rider, . It adds up to being alive going in. Should show a decent amount of money but the 2 horses coming out of the open MSW will draw plenty of action as well.

Very interesting race for sure. And yes, 6F. First thing I looked at.

going to look at the works as a neutral factor .. this is the sire we discussed when lkid was on here (khozan)..forget the horse's name but his friend had a nice 3yo that we followed on here by this sire and these were the owners (and possibly breeders also..think so)..as you said 3 others in here who've run well but I always like that better as the price on mine goes up..understand that works the other way too lol..agree that this one should take some money and i'd say above 12-1 not a good sign..something to watch later on..thanks str

[JBEX]

after all that he's scratched (says vet).. drats

[JBEX]

hey str


nice msw for 2yo at laurel R3 tomorrow.. wound up going with mcburney's on the rail at 15-1 but also like trombetta with #5... i like exiting that fast race at monmouth and stretching out especially with that running line.. bernardini out of a tiznow mare should like going further.. trombetta nice bloodlines also and he's solid with debuters..steady long works right up to the race.. definitely have a soft spot for him since he delivered big time at saratoga with a $70 debuter that I had in the contest

[Easy-Rider 66]

Hey STR: If you look over the form for Saturday's Breeders Cup Classic gives us your take. If not, no worries. Thx in advance.

[str]

hey str


nice msw for 2yo at laurel R3 tomorrow.. wound up going with mcburney's on the rail at 15-1 but also like trombetta with #5... i like exiting that fast race at monmouth and stretching out especially with that running line.. bernardini out of a tiznow mare should like going further.. trombetta nice bloodlines also and he's solid with debuters..steady long works right up to the race.. definitely have a soft spot for him since he delivered big time at saratoga with a $70 debuter that I had in the contest

Nice to see Pat McB. back in Md. He did not ship down much when I was there. Haven't seen him in forever. Real good guy. I see Mikes horse as well. Gotta say that this race looks like just about any of them could win. What a solidly matched field on paper. One of those races where the winner probably comes back and wins the nw/2 next time.
Ironically, I was there yesterday morning for about a 1/2 an hour. Had to meet an agent. Stood on the fence and watched them train for about 20 minutes. Hadn't done that since I left. Pretty surreal.
Thanks JBEX and good luck if you play.
I remember you hitting that $70 firster. That was a nice pick!

[str]

Hey STR: If you look over the form for Saturday's Breeders Cup Classic gives us your take. If not, no worries. Thx in advance.

Sure Easy. I plan on looking somewhat on Saturday. Let me know if you have any opinions.

[JBEX]

Nice to see Pat McB. back in Md. He did not ship down much when I was there. Haven't seen him in forever. Real good guy. I see Mikes horse as well. Gotta say that this race looks like just about any of them could win. What a solidly matched field on paper. One of those races where the winner probably comes back and wins the nw/2 next time.
Ironically, I was there yesterday morning for about a 1/2 an hour. Had to meet an agent. Stood on the fence and watched them train for about 20 minutes. Hadn't done that since I left. Pretty surreal.
Thanks JBEX and good luck if you play.
I remember you hitting that $70 firster. That was a nice pick!

yes that was a nice day in "contestville" lol.. the only way I'm involved.. only reason I referred to pat mcburney by name was I remember you said you knew him back in the day.. said something about you had him work some of your horses but he was on the big side so couldn't get on the smaller ones (or something to that effect).. yeah for you being at the track standing by the rail surely must be nice and bring back some memories of the old days



just noticed in that races 8 horses, no entries and 5 trainers..graham, trombetta and matz (and two michael's to boot lol) all have two.. guess there's only so many spots for these babies to run.. I'm always trying to stay away from a horse that shows too much in a race like this.. like a good effort in a sprint.. firster or just a subtle sign in a sprint that there might be something good next out (along with some pedigree or positive trainer info or both).. don't always see it and I'm OK to get beat by a horse that shows really good form in sprints in these 2yo maiden routes

[Easy-Rider 66]

Sure Easy. I plan on looking somewhat on Saturday. Let me know if you have any opinions.

OK Thx STR. will look it over sometime sat as well and read your take. playing a contest. May post a lean as well.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Hey STR: Taking a shot with the #3 By My Standards in the Classic. Super Screener info has him tabbed a live long shot. He has not encountered much pace to set up his late deadly turn of foot since his MDN win 2/16/19. Think he gets the pace to run at here. In a horse tourney contest so looking for a price. 10/ ML. Gabriel Saez has been the pilot for all 6 of his victories. working out nicely. And on a fast track never missed tri in 11 starts. Hit me back and let me know you you like. thx.

[str]

Hey STR: Taking a shot with the #3 By My Standards in the Classic. Super Screener info has him tabbed a live long shot. He has not encountered much pace to set up his late deadly turn of foot since his MDN win 2/16/19. Think he gets the pace to run at here. In a horse tourney contest so looking for a price. 10/ ML. Gabriel Saez has been the pilot for all 6 of his victories. working out nicely. And on a fast track never missed tri in 11 starts. Hit me back and let me know you you like. thx.

Sorry for the delayed response Easy. Very hectic up and down day. Crazy. Anyway, as I'm sure you know, my stance on pace is it almost always makes the race. It takes an incredible effort to overcome it albeit slow or fast. With that said, if I knew of a horse that had to have pace to run in to and had not had it for multiple races, and might get it today, I would be giving that horse a double look for sure. I think your angle is solid . And I love legitimate angles. While I just don't follow all this like I used to, that angle worked for me a multitude of times. No, not all the time, but the beauty of that is typically, you are betting a price. So it doesn't HAVE to work all the time. And while this race is stacked with the best talent around, pace still has a lot to say about it. So I would say, go for it. And not just this time but everytime you see a horse that you know has been up against a pace scenario and looks like it could find some relief at a price today.

For me, I just have not had any time today to look at the form. Had a house go on the market today which was a crazy morning in itself as well as having to deal with the internment of one of the greatest men I ever knew. He was 95 and had passed a few months ago but I did not find out about the quick service until yesterday. More on him later I think as I should share my good fortune that I had to be around such a wonderful man when I was a kid.

So best of luck with your play, I like the write up and thought process and you get doubles in odds as well. Wish I had something to contribute but played the contest by handicapping the program only in about 10 minutes. About a minute a race. Just throwing darts for me today Easy.

[Easy-Rider 66]

OK STR: no worries thx for your comments. GL in the contest. my condolences about your friend.

[JBEX]

hey str


thanksgiving day R4 @ fairgrounds
(opening day) i like a 1st time starter #6 ours forever (6-1)..many angles apply for me including speed pedigree,productive dam,cost a good amount relative and trainer excellent doing this..think I know the answer but would you be put off by the fact he has only two 4f works going in ?
know time is not an issue with you or else she'd be eliminated lol..with a ped like that he may only need a little conditioning..it's a solid field for a state bred race and there are many you could make a case for

[str]

hey str


thanksgiving day R4 @ fairgrounds
(opening day) i like a 1st time starter #6 ours forever (6-1)..many angles apply for me including speed pedigree,productive dam,cost a good amount relative and trainer excellent doing this..think I know the answer but would you be put off by the fact he has only two 4f works going in ?
know time is not an issue with you or else she'd be eliminated lol..with a ped like that he may only need a little conditioning..it's a solid field for a state bred race and there are many you could make a case for

No. She has many more than that , I guarantee it.
Best guess is that the Fairgrounds did not open until Nov. 1st as I see no works before then in the race. Everybody else came from another place.
This horse worked out at a training track that did not have clockers in all probability.

This horse is fast. She worked out a quarter at Timonium just before selling in 21 2/5ths in June. She was starting to lose interest even with blinkers late in the work, switched leads right on time and looks the part. You can watch the video of her by going to Mid atlantic 2 year olds in training website. Then go to under tack show and she is hip 39. Click on under tack show and then video and the work is there for you to see.
Yes, she had blinkers and the rider had a stick he was tapping her with to keep her attention but she moves well . To be by a 5k sire and bring 95k, she already had a reputation back then.
Also, I love the January foal angle. That angle is, many are indeed born in mid to late December by misfortune and they are not reported until about the 7th +/- of January. So she is probably 3-4 months older than the rest of the field.

The money should show and while others look capable, unless something goes wrong or there is a hidden gem in the field, she should represent herself well.

Good luck if you play. And nice find JBEX!

Here she is in June.

[JBEX]

No. She has many more than that , I guarantee it.
Best guess is that the Fairgrounds did not open until Nov. 1st as I see no works before then in the race. Everybody else came from another place.
This horse worked out at a training track that did not have clockers in all probability.

This horse is fast. She worked out a quarter at Timonium just before selling in 21 2/5ths in June. She was starting to lose interest even with blinkers late in the work, switched leads right on time and looks the part. You can watch the video of her by going to Mid atlantic 2 year olds in training website. Then go to under tack show and she is hip 39. Click on under tack show and then video and the work is there for you to see.
Yes, she had blinkers and the rider had a stick he was tapping her with to keep her attention but she moves well . To be by a 5k sire and bring 95k, she already had a reputation back then.
Also, I love the January foal angle. That angle is, many are indeed born in mid to late December by misfortune and they are not reported until about the 7th +/- of January. So she is probably 3-4 months older than the rest of the field.

The money should show and while others look capable, unless something goes wrong or there is a hidden gem in the field, she should represent herself well.

Good luck if you play. And nice find JBEX!

Here she is in June.

wow stumbled on something good lol..that's amazing information and great to know..guessing the auction abbreviation is "fasig tipton midatlantic 2yo" ? looked like a real mover in the video and 21.2 obviously fast ..thanks for all the work you put in on this str..hopefully we'll get a nice effort from her

[JBEX]

does seem that quite often the 2yo's that cost a lot for their pedigree specs did work out fast prior to a sale ..definitely found it out afterwards at least 2 times before

[str]

does seem that quite often the 2yo's that cost a lot for their pedigree specs did work out fast prior to a sale ..definitely found it out afterwards at least 2 times before

Yes. If they work fast and move well, it is usually time to pay a premium for them. Lots of people are willing to overpay due to a real fast workout.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone !

[JBEX]

ok str..no good today but trombetta shipping in to aqueduct from laurel with a 2yo first time starter..nice pedigree,steady works and of course have a fondness for this guy dating back to saratoga lol..any comments welcome


R2 #4 in vain (8-1)

[str]

hey str


thanksgiving day R4 @ fairgrounds
(opening day) i like a 1st time starter #6 ours forever (6-1)..many angles apply for me including speed pedigree,productive dam,cost a good amount relative and trainer excellent doing this..think I know the answer but would you be put off by the fact he has only two 4f works going in ?
know time is not an issue with you or else she'd be eliminated lol..with a ped like that he may only need a little conditioning..it's a solid field for a state bred race and there are many you could make a case for

Wanted to comment on the filly yesterday.
She broke poorly because she flipped her head right as the gates opened. That had her off a step slow. And while that happens, she showed no life down the backside early, which surprised me as I assumed she wanted to show speed, especially with blks. ON first out.
Once the went an 1/8th it was over for her with all the dirt flying back at her. Something I have to think had not happened before.
Just an all around flat effort. Kind of surprising with the money showing.

[str]

ok str..no good today but trombetta shipping in to aqueduct from laurel with a 2yo first time starter..nice pedigree,steady works and of course have a fondness for this guy dating back to saratoga lol..any comments welcome


R2 #4 in vain (8-1)

Well, a solid group of firsters for sure. She has not worked on the grass which she could have done if they nominated her to a stake. At least that WAS the rule, not sure about nowadays.
But, she is bred for it so it makes sense. I guess there are no baby races on the turf at Laurel, and it's getting late in the year for turf at Laurel anyway as it does not drain well in the fall. So I understand the move. Riding a bug is curious. Don't know if that means something or not.
The breeder breeds speed typically. Think we've talked about him before. Certainly worth a look but some other firsters look the part on paper. Probably get a price and again, that breeder produces winners , many with early foot.
As far as the negative comment in the form about the trainer racing on turf, I would pay no attention to that. Mike knows what he's doing.
Good luck if you play.

[JBEX]

Well, a solid group of firsters for sure. She has not worked on the grass which she could have done if they nominated her to a stake. At least that WAS the rule, not sure about nowadays.
But, she is bred for it so it makes sense. I guess there are no baby races on the turf at Laurel, and it's getting late in the year for turf at Laurel anyway as it does not drain well in the fall. So I understand the move. Riding a bug is curious. Don't know if that means something or not.
The breeder breeds speed typically. Think we've talked about him before. Certainly worth a look but some other firsters look the part on paper. Probably get a price and again, that breeder produces winners , many with early foot.
As far as the negative comment in the form about the trainer racing on turf, I would pay no attention to that. Mike knows what he's doing.
Good luck if you play.

Was thinking along the same lines with the possibility of no baby turf races at laurel this late in the year.. I remember asking you about the breeder before, being she's a homebred from the state of Maryland and seeing his name over the years.. the pedigree is slanted a little towards speed which as you said are the types he breeds.. a little skeptical of the 1 as its an extreme distance pedigree and with wesley ward being the trainer will take a lot of action.. clement has a horse with huge pedigree yet only cost $30k (also extreme distance type).. then graham motion one post further out.. dam sire is danzig and you rarely see him anymore (1974 foal I believe) to me one of the greatest sires of all time... just looked and the dam is 20 years old which is not surprising.. don't like this one.. there's others but those are the 3 inside of mine.. inside is better in turf sprints here over a small sample so that won't hurt either.. maybe the bug a sign she's got speed and may need a less tactical ride.. appreciate your insights as always str

[staf]

Don't know if this is the place to ask this, are there online US sportsbooks that would be better for horseracing than others?

[josi]

Yes Jake I sure do. I am not involved at all in racing anymore. It was such a part of me that the only way to leave it was completely.
I can say that I do not miss the game nearly as much as I miss the people in it. The friendships and bonds that I made with so many were deep ones . I still stay in touch with probably a 6-8 of my closest friends but their are so many others that I wish I could see every now and then. I had 30+ employees for a couple of decades that I no longer see or hear from and that is tough. Many of those were for 10+ years at a time.
I however do not miss the game nearly as much as I thought I might. I saw way too many trainers cheating and as the game changed I began to not like it at times.
With all of the drug positives going on and knowing first hand that a trainer had broken a rule that I witnessed first hand in a detention barn 2 hours before the race , he goes on to beat me a head with that horse and have nothing happen to him, well , that was something that I could not except.
Will post a story soon about an owner I had, in regards to that, but not tonight.
Anyway, tell me about you at the track. Did you work at Belmont? Please tell me who you worked for and what you did as well as when. I would love to hear your story.
Thanks for asking!

That is for sure when it comes to people you meet through the horse racing circuit. I love hearing stories about horse racing from people who have been on the inside and outside of it. I have been on different forums for years and have met so many great friends that have the same interest as me which is horse racing. From harness to thoroughbred it's all interesting. It's a tough game and it's held my interest for many years and that's hard to do...lol.

[JBEX]

Wanted to comment on the filly yesterday.
She broke poorly because she flipped her head right as the gates opened. That had her off a step slow. And while that happens, she showed no life down the backside early, which surprised me as I assumed she wanted to show speed, especially with blks. ON first out.
Once the went an 1/8th it was over for her with all the dirt flying back at her. Something I have to think had not happened before.
Just an all around flat effort. Kind of surprising with the money showing.

missed this a few days ago..didn't view the replay but remember she did seem to leave a little tardy and that was why..maybe would be a good follow as she certainly won't look good on paper..will try and keep tabs on her

[str]

Don't know if this is the place to ask this, are there online US sportsbooks that would be better for horseracing than others?

Yes. Without a doubt. You need to do some homework on rebates first. Once you have identified a few of those, read their rules. That's really important. Then check their limits on the track or tracks you plan on using.
Do make sure you are using a high rated sportsbook. There are some really bad ones out there. SBR has all that up right here for you to see. These thoughts come to mind right away. I am probably not mentioning some others that are important as well but I have not played offshore in a while now.
There are a solid group of players on this exact horse racing forum that I hope will chime in here and point you to the books they have had a history with. Plenty of people in here know what they are doing and I think will be happy to share what they have seen when it comes to the right places to play and more importantly, the wrong places to play.
Hope that helps and feel free to respond if you need more info. Anyone reading this please feel free to recommend the best places to play horses offshore.
Thanks for posting and good luck!

[str]

That is for sure when it comes to people you meet through the horse racing circuit. I love hearing stories about horse racing from people who have been on the inside and outside of it. I have been on different forums for years and have met so many great friends that have the same interest as me which is horse racing. From harness to thoroughbred it's all interesting. It's a tough game and it's held my interest for many years and that's hard to do...lol.

Thanks for the response josi and welcome to the SBR horse racing thread. From what you pulled up to respond, it looks like you are at the beginning. That means you have 10 years of posts to go through. That should hold you for awhile. If you do, I hope they provide some insight to the game from behind the scenes.
Feel free to ask whatever along the way. I'll do my best to answer it.

[str]

missed this a few days ago..didn't view the replay but remember she did seem to leave a little tardy and that was why..maybe would be a good follow as she certainly won't look good on paper..will try and keep tabs on her

I saw the head on and it was a troubled trip no doubt. Didn't like the lack of kick though after about 5-10 strides. Yes, the jock was trying to hold her back by then but if the horse really wants to run, that doesn't do much. And while I agree with the riders tactics after the break, firsters with some motor rarely comply so willingly. All in all, I just found the horses response somewhat weird.
Please do keep a tab on her, if for nothing else, to see what she does early next out.
Thanks JBEX.

[josi]

Thanks for the response josi and welcome to the SBR horse racing thread. From what you pulled up to respond, it looks like you are at the beginning. That means you have 10 years of posts to go through. That should hold you for awhile. If you do, I hope they provide some insight to the game from behind the scenes.
Feel free to ask whatever along the way. I'll do my best to answer it.

Actually, I was on here years ago but lost that account info, so I reapplied. My first experiences with horse racing were my Dad taking me to the track at Atlantic City Racecourse. I usually pointed at his program and picked horses, and I did pretty well...lol. A good way to learn a lot about horse racing is by joining in on different forums and groups. I have been on them for quite a few years. Playing in contests and scoring contests. Past performances have so much quality information. Though, even with all that information, luck is a good thing to have! The horses are too wise for all of us, oh only to get in on those minds. The equation mixture in picking horses is crazy. I do like my jockeys/trainers - drivers/trainers.

[str]

Actually, I was on here years ago but lost that account info, so I reapplied. My first experiences with horse racing were my Dad taking me to the track at Atlantic City Racecourse. I usually pointed at his program and picked horses, and I did pretty well...lol. A good way to learn a lot about horse racing is by joining in on different forums and groups. I have been on them for quite a few years. Playing in contests and scoring contests. Past performances have so much quality information. Though, even with all that information, luck is a good thing to have! The horses are too wise for all of us, oh only to get in on those minds. The equation mixture in picking horses is crazy. I do like my jockeys/trainers - drivers/trainers.

As you read through, I hope something within this thread can help make sense out of some thing that you have seen or experienced.
If you have any questions, you know where to find me.

[JBEX]

No. She has many more than that , I guarantee it.
Best guess is that the Fairgrounds did not open until Nov. 1st as I see no works before then in the race. Everybody else came from another place.
This horse worked out at a training track that did not have clockers in all probability.

This horse is fast. She worked out a quarter at Timonium just before selling in 21 2/5ths in June. She was starting to lose interest even with blinkers late in the work, switched leads right on time and looks the part. You can watch the video of her by going to Mid atlantic 2 year olds in training website. Then go to under tack show and she is hip 39. Click on under tack show and then video and the work is there for you to see.
Yes, she had blinkers and the rider had a stick he was tapping her with to keep her attention but she moves well . To be by a 5k sire and bring 95k, she already had a reputation back then.
Also, I love the January foal angle. That angle is, many are indeed born in mid to late December by misfortune and they are not reported until about the 7th +/- of January. So she is probably 3-4 months older than the rest of the field.

The money should show and while others look capable, unless something goes wrong or there is a hidden gem in the field, she should represent herself well.

Good luck if you play. And nice find JBEX!

Here she is in June.

returns for start 2 in the last race at fairgrounds

[str]

returns for start 2 in the last race at fairgrounds

Better post position today but she will need to break and show more interest early.

The people who had the money show last time will be expecting that this time.

[JBEX]

Better post position today but she will need to break and show more interest early.

The people who had the money show last time will be expecting that this time.

saw she was pulled up at the 5/16 but said in the chart she was walked off..hopefully nothing too serious