Wallco NHL GOLD (+453 units in 6 years)

**dalogester** · 02-19-13, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by TankHankerous

Can you please show work? I'm having trouble with this concept.

Tank, what I did to get to this is $50 using -245 odds so $50 X 2.45 = $122.50. So the $122.50 is what you would risk to win $50.
If you lost this, which I did you would then take $122.50 you lost, plus the $50 you were trying to profit which equals $172.50
This would then be the (B) bet at $172.50 X the odds of the next bet.
The next bet odds are -150 so you would take $172.50 X 1.50 which would equal $258.75 and the total (B) bet.

**Grinder12000** · 02-19-13, 01:05 PM

Tank the reason you are having problems is because you are not stoned yet. Please step towards your bong and come back when you are balanced again.

**noveggies** · 02-19-13, 01:09 PM

I feel like the odds on that SJ/STL game really moved to make that PL ridiculous as a huge overreaction to STL's plane troubles. It's not like they were stuck in some 3rd world country eating coackroaches and old banana peels for 3 weeks before this game. They were in Canada for a day. Hell, not being able to stuff their faces with provel cheese at dinner last night probably favors STL.

**samrock67** · 02-19-13, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

0.5% is what I use on this system until I am comfortable betting 65 units in one night

This. I started with .5% unit sizes until I have some house money to play with, especially with the shortened season, this system is unpredictable for this year(but doing well so far).

**Mrscofield25** · 02-19-13, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

Tank the reason you are having problems is because you are not stoned yet. Please step towards your bong and come back when you are balanced again.

**TankHankerous** · 02-19-13, 02:37 PM

Thanks dalogester, it makes perfect sense now. Turns out I am in the same boat as you with a similar bank roll and unit size. I just came back to sports betting after a 5 month hiatus due to financial woes, go figure. Anyway, I stumbled on this thread and I am really interested in this system considering it's success in the past. If there is anything I should know before committing to the system let me know.

Thanks for the tip Grinder. Turns out I just used a grinder to prepare some medicinal herbals for my vaporizer

**BuckeyeKaptn** · 02-19-13, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by TankHankerous

Thanks for the tip Grinder. Turns out I just used a grinder to prepare some medicinal herbals for my vaporizer

Is it the 12000 Series?!

**TankHankerous** · 02-19-13, 05:43 PM

No, it's the small Space Case titanium edition.

Here is a review of the exact grinder I have except mine is the small version:

Gotta love that kief compartment!

Reminds me of Bobbyfk and his reviews, heh.

**alexknyc** · 02-19-13, 05:50 PM

Reports are that Rick Nash will not play for New York tonight.

**dalogester** · 02-19-13, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by alexknyc

Reports are that Rick Nash will not play for New York tonight.

Do injurys never affect our (A) (B) and (C) bets?

**Andy3568** · 02-19-13, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by dalogester

Do injurys never affect our (A) (B) and (C) bets?

They can affect the odds and even affect whether the team to bet on is a favorite or dog, but it doesn't cancel out the bet.

**Wallco99** · 02-19-13, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Mrscofield25

Well....which is it?

**Wallco99** · 02-19-13, 06:06 PM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 28-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +28.00 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.55 units)

(2/18/13):
#26 Columbus (+1½) v1 (B) - Win
#28 Montreal (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
#29 Carolina (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 9-12
(B) 8-3
(C) 3-0

v2 Plays
(A) 3-5
(B) 2-3
(C) 3-0

Games for (2/19/13):
#29 Montreal @ N.Y. Rangers (M/L) v1 (B) (7:05 pm EST)
#30 San Jose (+1½) @ St. Louis v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Mrscofield25** · 02-19-13, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Well....which is it?

Both. Going from Wallcos NHL Gold Thread to Wallcos NHL Weed Thread.

At least it's better than arguing page up, and page down. Goodnight guys and BOL.

**dalogester** · 02-19-13, 09:42 PM

Rangers sucked ass tonight

**samrock67** · 02-20-13, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by dalogester

Rangers sucked ass tonight

I think that's a little harsh...They were starting to get into a groove...Nash didn't play and Torts started shuffling lines around again, leading to poor chemistry, etc.

**dalogester** · 02-20-13, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by samrock67

I think that's a little harsh...They were starting to get into a groove...Nash didn't play and Torts started shuffling lines around again, leading to poor chemistry, etc.

ill be honest, didnt watch the game at all LOL. Just game cast... Early goal got me excited just to see them lose 3-1. Welp guess im going for broke on the (C) bet

No way I can lose right? jk

**noveggies** · 02-20-13, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by dalogester

ill be honest, didnt watch the game at all LOL. Just game cast... Early goal got me excited just to see them lose 3-1. Welp guess im going for broke on the (C) bet

No way I can lose right? jk

NYR scores first, that seems like it's been the kiss of death all season.

**Wallco99** · 02-20-13, 05:54 AM

Double

**Wallco99** · 02-20-13, 05:56 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 29-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +29.00 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-8.23 units)

(2/19/13):
#29 N.Y. Rangers (M/L) v1 (B) - Loss
#30 San Jose (+1½) v1 (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 10-12
(B) 8-4
(C) 3-0

v2 Plays
(A) 3-5
(B) 2-3
(C) 3-0

Games for (2/20/13):
#29 Resumes v1 (C) on 2/21/13
#31 Philadelphia (+1½) @ Pittsburgh v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**KennyM10** · 02-20-13, 01:55 PM

Bog loss $ wise again. Yesterday when was the last time this shell game had a winning day?

**KennyM10** · 02-20-13, 01:56 PM

He has two d bets in the NBA, 45 units to win one. So 90 units to win 2? What a complete joke.

**KennyM10** · 02-20-13, 02:00 PM

The rules just keep air betting till a game wins with pretend units.

**KennyM10** · 02-20-13, 02:01 PM

C bet coming in here too get your monopoly money out!

**MLefty** · 02-20-13, 02:14 PM

kenny get your bitch ass out of here its just annoying to scroll through your posts that no one gives a shit about. Im pretty quiet in this thread but the fact that u posted 4 separate times to bitch about the same thing is just annoying in itself. now just get out of here ur clearly unwanted.

**dalogester** · 02-20-13, 02:36 PM

yeah it could end up being bad, or he could end up winning all 3... We have a P/L coming for our C bet so odds are we cash. No idea about the D bets in NBA but obviously his NHL system has been profitable so far. Dont make the mistake I did and bet outside your roll. .5-1% is plenty big.

**cutchemist42** · 02-20-13, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

There is no bet B if A wins, there is no bet C if A or B wins. One win series is over. If a game loses, next bet is sum of all losses in that series plus one unit.

Ok so let's say my odds for these bets are 1.6.

If (A) loses at 1.6 from betting 1 unit, my bet (B) will be 1 unit plus 1 unit loss from Bet A? Or would it be 1 unit plus 1 unit loss from A plus the .60 units from A if I had won?

Let's say it gets to bet (C). Will my bet for bet C be 1 unit + 1 unit loss from A + 1 unit loss from B?

**Andy3568** · 02-20-13, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by cutchemist42

Ok so let's say my odds for these bets are 1.6.

If (A) loses at 1.6 from betting 1 unit, my bet (B) will be 1 unit plus 1 unit loss from Bet A? Or would it be 1 unit plus 1 unit loss from A plus the .60 units from A if I had won?

Let's say it gets to bet (C). Will my bet for bet C be 1 unit + 1 unit loss from A + 1 unit loss from B?

If the odds on the "A" bet are -160, you are going to RISK 1.6 units to win 1. If the "A" bet loses, you are going to bet to WIN 2.6 units, 1.6 lost on the "A" bet plus 1 to win on the series. How much you RISK on the "B" bet depends on the odds on the "B" bet. If the "B" bet loses, you're going to bet to WIN money lost on "A" bet + money lost on "B" bet plus 1 unit.

Hope that's not too confusing.

**cutchemist42** · 02-20-13, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Andy3568

If the odds on the "A" bet are -160, you are going to RISK 1.6 units to win 1. If the "A" bet loses, you are going to bet to WIN 2.6 units, 1.6 lost on the "A" bet plus 1 to win on the series. How much you RISK on the "B" bet depends on the odds on the "B" bet. If the "B" bet loses, you're going to bet to WIN money lost on "A" bet + money lost on "B" bet plus 1 unit.

Hope that's not too confusing.

It's perfectly clear now, thanks!

**noveggies** · 02-20-13, 08:05 PM

Well, if the past games are any indication, Pitt going up 2 goals means Philly's going to win this game outright, so that's good

**Grinder12000** · 02-20-13, 09:43 PM

So I'm reliving the 2011-12 Wallco NHL experience and taking down numbers and stats to get the feel of the system (which is what I do) and man - you guys had a rough beginning didn't you. holy crap.

**noveggies** · 02-20-13, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by noveggies

Well, if the past games are any indication, Pitt going up 2 goals means Philly's going to win this game outright, so that's good

So, I post that, then almost immediately Philly scored 2 to tie it up, now they are up 2. This could be the best system ever: Wait for a team to score, then put your BR into play on that team to lose

**Maleku** · 02-21-13, 05:27 AM

Originally posted by Grinder12000

So I'm reliving the 2011-12 Wallco NHL experience and taking down numbers and stats to get the feel of the system (which is what I do) and man - you guys had a rough beginning didn't you. holy crap.

Did you notice any pattern Grinder? Does the 2nd half of the season tend to pick up steam?

**Wallco99** · 02-21-13, 06:39 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 30-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +30.00 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-8.23 units)

(2/20/13):
#31 Philadelphia (+1½) v1 (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 11-12
(B) 8-4
(C) 3-0

v2 Plays
(A) 3-5
(B) 2-3
(C) 3-0

Games for (2/21/13):
#29 N.Y. Islanders (+1½) @ Montreal v1 (C) (7:35 pm EST)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Grinder12000** · 02-21-13, 07:13 AM

Did you notice any pattern Grinder? Does the 2nd half of the season tend to pick up steam?

I have not gotten that far yet - still early season. It's like watching last years Daytona 500 - I know who wins, I just don't no how they got there! I do know I would be pretty depressed at the 51 game mark and hedging my bets a little getting ready to jump off this ship!

But we all know it ends well.

And I REALLY have to compliment Wallco for his numbering - genius. seriously.