Wallco NHL GOLD (+453 units in 6 years)

[noveggies]

Delogaster- if you are going to play Wallcos chase you HAVE to take the actual sport and teams out of the equation. This has nothing to do with the NHL at all. It's a mathematical exercise. The less you know about the sport the easier it is. I feel lucky. I don't even like hockey and I don't even know how many teams are in the league LOL ill never watch a game and have never looked at the standings.

Well, I can say that if you ever thought you might see a PL where the team getting the goals was +, it would be this game

[dalogester]

Have you guys bet on Columbus yet? I am thinking of waiting right before game time since the Ducks are such big favorites and have been hot I feel like people are going to pound the ducks M/L.

Quick question though, if people bet the ducks M/L will that affect the P/L at all?

[ABOSSSGAME]

i thought #26 was Tampa Bay (ML) B?

[dalogester]

Tampa bay was #24 and already won. I thought were fading the ducks for a (b) bet

[ABOSSSGAME]

I meant Nashville (B).

[samrock67]

#26 is an Anaheim fade

[Wallco99]

I meant Nashville (B).

Anaheim fade is bet #26.

[nicktran808]

When will the bet go up for Carolina/Montreal?

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 26-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +26.00 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-1.45 units)

(2/17/13):
#27 N.Y. Rangers (M/L) v1 (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 8-11
(B) 7-3
(C) 3-0

v2 Plays
(A) 3-5
(B) 2-3
(C) 3-0


Games for (2/18/13):
#26 Columbus (+1½) @ Anaheim v1 (B) (10:05 pm EST)
#28 Carolina @ Montreal (M/L) v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#29 Carolina (+1½) @ Montreal v1 (A) (7:05 pm EST)

For the Carolina/Montreal game, we will play one team on the M/L and one team on the (+1½). If the line ends at -110/-110, we will skip these two plays and pick up the losing team for 2 units on the (B) bet. System will count all games played regardless of our implemented bet strategy for a particular matchup.


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

[Wallco99]

When will the bet go up for Carolina/Montreal?

It was posted at 6:00 this morning. It is the individual player's responsibility to watch the lines throughout the day to make sure you are on the right side of the lines.

[dalogester]

thanks wallco ^^ lets go montreal win by 1

[cutchemist42]

Just so I understand, Bet C is Losses from A and B and the profit-if-won from A and B?

[Wallco99]

Just so I understand, Bet C is Losses from A and B and the profit-if-won from A and B?

There is no bet B if A wins, there is no bet C if A or B wins. One win series is over. If a game loses, next bet is sum of all losses in that series plus one unit.

[PremierWagers]

hopped on the B bet for Columbus tonight.. thanks for the win wallco!

[dalogester]

My bad I didn't notice 2 of those games although they lost 3 in a row they didnt lose ats. Wonder what nyr / Montreal line is going to be..

[KennyM10]

Tough day for you wallco you to 2-1 and lose money. Well when you bet both teams and lose the -250 pl for a loss of 2.5 units and win only two that is still a down day and really not to smart. No wonder why between the NBA and nhl you lose so much.

[Maleku]

Tough day for you wallco you to 2-1 and lose money. Well when you bet both teams and lose the -250 pl for a loss of 2.5 units and win only two that is still a down day and really not to smart. No wonder why between the NBA and nhl you lose so much.

Odd... I seem to be up over 20 units with this system.

[Maleku]

Wow, 3 games of -270, -250 and -220 tomorrows. Lots gonna be out there lol

In the movie Bull Durham, Kevin Costners character gives advice to the young pitcher played by Tim Robbins by telling him, "Don't think... just throw"

This is my advice to you. We are betting a trend with this system and we are all up money.

Dont think.... just throw

[Wallco99]

Wallco NHL GOLD
2012-13 System to date: 28-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +28.00 unitsL(fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.55 units)

(2/18/13):
#26 Columbus (+1½) v1 (B) - Win
#28 Montreal (M/L) v1 (A) - Win
#29 Carolina (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 9-12
(B) 8-3
(C) 3-0

v2 Plays
(A) 3-5
(B) 2-3
(C) 3-0


Games for (2/19/13):
#29 Montreal @ N.Y. Rangers (M/L) v1 (B) (7:05 pm EST)
#30 San Jose (+1½) @ St. Louis v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)


Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

[EasyPicks]

biggest bet, in units, so far?

thx

[samrock67]

Tough day for you wallco you to 2-1 and lose money. Well when you bet both teams and lose the -250 pl for a loss of 2.5 units and win only two that is still a down day and really not to smart. No wonder why between the NBA and nhl you lose so much.

I adjusted my bets and put more money on the better odds in the Montreal/Carolina series...so I came out on top last night...

Also... System profit/loss: +28.00 units

Your trolling is getting kind of boring Kenny. Can't you step it up a notch?

[noveggies]

Well... Got a little crazy with the cheese wiz yesterday on other plays and now need to decide if I reload or just throw up my hands and say that I have no ability to manage a BR and should not be doing any of this.

[dalogester]

Can someone help me real quick with this math? For the fading of Montreal I bet to win $50 using -245 odds. Now I'm fading Montreal again using -150 odds. What should my total bet be? $258.75?

[samrock67]

Can someone help me real quick with this math? For the fading of Montreal I bet to win $50 using -245 odds. Now I'm fading Montreal again using -150 odds. What should my total bet be? $258.75?

Yup, that looks right. Math checks out.

[TankHankerous]

Since Montreal won the (A) bet on 2/18 isn't that series over? I'm confused and not even stoned yet.

[noveggies]

Since Montreal won the (A) bet on 2/18 isn't that series over? I'm confused and not even stoned yet.

Mont won, so that finishes the carolina fade. Mont won, so the Mont fade continues.

[dalogester]

Okay I am trying not to flood this thread with questions etc but this is pretty relevant. Have you guys started out making too big of bets for your bankroll and found yourself going down? Like I'll be honest I have $1500 and im doing $50 bets, about to have $258.75 at stake which is probably too much. The thing is though I am willing to take some risk in order to make more money but I think I need to lower my bet to $20 or $30. Have you guys found a personal % amount of bankroll that seems solid to handle a loss or 2 consecutive losses in a row?

[noveggies]

Okay I am trying not to flood this thread with questions etc but this is pretty relevant. Have you guys started out making too big of bets for your bankroll and found yourself going down? Like I'll be honest I have $1500 and im doing $50 bets, about to have $258.75 at stake which is probably too much. The thing is though I am willing to take some risk in order to make more money but I think I need to lower my bet to $20 or $30. Have you guys found a personal % amount of bankroll that seems solid to handle a loss or 2 consecutive losses in a row?

I was playing a unit as 1% of my BR and it was scary on several days when multiple PL plays were in b or c bets, but I never had more than 50% of the BR in play even doing 3 different chases and I would be up a total of about 60% of the BR if I hadn't had an, uh... incident ... last night. If that 1500 is your real BR, you probably can't afford to play this chase with $50 units. All of the plays in here have cleared, but if, for example, this Mont play doesn't clear tonight, depending on how the lines break for the Cbet, you're going to have ~600 to 1000 in play on the Cbet.

EDIT: if you want to use $50 plays, that's the risk, or you should find a chase that has the plays that stick to the roughly -110 lines, like stif's NBA chase. I don't know if something like that exists for hockey, though. Wallco even noted at the start of this season that people should be playing with .5u plays, given how ridic 3xPL plays can become. Taking that into consideration, you should be doing like $7.5.

[OFS]

Okay I am trying not to flood this thread with questions etc but this is pretty relevant. Have you guys started out making too big of bets for your bankroll and found yourself going down? Like I'll be honest I have $1500 and im doing $50 bets, about to have $258.75 at stake which is probably too much. The thing is though I am willing to take some risk in order to make more money but I think I need to lower my bet to $20 or $30. Have you guys found a personal % amount of bankroll that seems solid to handle a loss or 2 consecutive losses in a row?

You're BR will probably be gone in 1-2 wks depending on amount of plays. 1% is safer, especially with the swings of this particular system. You need to develop patience and BR management if you thought you could use 50- units with a 1500 BR.

[Grinder12000]

0.5% is what I use on this system until I am comfortable betting 65 units in one night

Betting 20 units in one night seems to be not uncommon

[on3]

looking good

[dalogester]

lol yeah i agree time to move way down just wanna make that guap

[TankHankerous]

Can someone help me real quick with this math? For the fading of Montreal I bet to win $50 using -245 odds. Now I'm fading Montreal again using -150 odds. What should my total bet be? $258.75?

Can you please show work? I'm having trouble with this concept.

[dalogester]

I think I will be balsy from here on and go with $15-20 per bet. I think ill let the $258.75 ride tonight and if i lose let it be a lesson.

[jonohull]

Can you please show work? I'm having trouble with this concept.

A bet: 50 * 2.45 = 122.5
B bet: (122.5 + 50) * 1.5 = 258.75