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  • D3 Mighty Ducks
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-17-09
    • 11939

    #1
    Roloson or Smith?
    Who do the Lightning go with in Game 5 in Boston? Roloson has led the charge this post-season for the Lightning but as of late it looks like the fatigue has caught up to him. Roloson has let in 11 goals on his last 66 shots he's faced. Or do you go with Mike Smith who came in to relief Roloson yesterday and the team responded with 5 unanswered goals. I know a lot of you would say to go back with Roloson, the guy who basically carried you here, but I'd have to disagree. I believe in keeping the team that won you the game together. Which means starting Mike Smith in Game 5 and letting him steal the spotlight and the lead the Lightning to the Cup Final.

    Thoughts?
  • face
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-31-11
    • 14740

    #2
    i say rest roloson for another game, give smith a start. let roloson play game 6, he did look tired. but the thing is, i don't make the decisions in tampa bay right now.
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    • DwightShrute
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-17-09
      • 103249

      #3
      go with the guy that got you there IMO

      it's easy to always dump on goalies but usually its the team in front that needs to be criticized. Always blaming the goalie is usually done by the short sighted fans who really don't understand the game.

      Look at the 3rd period in Vancouver in game 2 with Niemi letting in 4 goals. The team in front of him gave up and it was a shooting gallery. Yet, some will say Niemi sucks. LOL. And Thomas yesterday giving up 5 in the last 2 periods.
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      • DennisGreen
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-27-08
        • 18369

        #4
        History suggests that they roll with Rolly and I think they will. He looked bad last game but he's got them this far so I don't see them letting Mike Smith take over now.
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        • mcaulay777
          SBR MVP
          • 09-13-10
          • 1769

          #5
          Great too see Mike Smith get to play.Saw him play here in Des Moines when he played for the Iowa Stars in the AHL when he was in the Dallas Stars Organization.
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          • Jackson Hole
            Restricted User
            • 01-22-11
            • 96

            #6
            I think you have to go with Smith, for whatever reason the Bruins haven;t scored with him in net.

            Rolly has been pulled twice already, not that all the goals were his fault.

            Ride the hot hand in Smith
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            • steviec27
              SBR Sharp
              • 06-20-10
              • 438

              #7
              You gotta think if they start Smith what will that do to Rollys confidence. Could knock him down or fire him up, who's to know.

              Sometimes after a bad game it's good for the goalie to get back in there and put it right. He dont wanna be on the bench thinking the coach has no faith in him.

              I'd go with Rolly.
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              • Lint Pockets
                SBR MVP
                • 01-19-10
                • 1211

                #8
                doesnt matter either way bruins are winning at home and then winning the series.
                sbr
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                • Jackson Hole
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-22-11
                  • 96

                  #9
                  IF you dont start Rolly do you lose him for the rest of the playoffs. I dont think he was pulled for a lack of confidence, rather Boucher needed to change the momentum.
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                  • Marauders
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-23-09
                    • 1072

                    #10
                    Got to go back to Roloson to avoid any goalie controversy. But he will be on a short leash should he get off to another bad start like he did last game.
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                    • Seattle Slew
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-02-06
                      • 7373

                      #11
                      Roloson gets one more start for sure before they switch. If he plays bad in Game 5, you gotta go Smith in Game 6.
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                      • FindTheLock
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-27-10
                        • 7194

                        #12
                        If not for roloson the lightning wouldn't have made it out of round 1. he's old and had a few bad games, but his defense was a major letdown in front of him. The 1rst goal in game 3 was WEAK, but it wasn't rolosons fault. The second goal was rolosons fault, but that didn't matter because the lightning didn't score to help him out. I think Roloson is still the main guy, and he should start until he lets too many get past him. The lightning need to clean up their sloppy passing in front of their own net.
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                        • DennisGreen
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-27-08
                          • 18369

                          #13
                          Roloson is in for game 5 confirmed on Twitter via Bob McKenzie.
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                          • D3 Mighty Ducks
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-17-09
                            • 11939

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DwightShrute
                            go with the guy that got you there IMO

                            it's easy to always dump on goalies but usually its the team in front that needs to be criticized. Always blaming the goalie is usually done by the short sighted fans who really don't understand the game.

                            Look at the 3rd period in Vancouver in game 2 with Niemi letting in 4 goals. The team in front of him gave up and it was a shooting gallery. Yet, some will say Niemi sucks. LOL. And Thomas yesterday giving up 5 in the last 2 periods.
                            Who you calling a short sighted fan? When did I blame Roloson for going down 3-0 after the first period? All I am saying is if the Bruins haven't scored when Smith is between the pipes why not stick with whats working. The momentum has shifted in favor of the Lightning after their 5 unanswered goals. I think the logical thing for the Lightning to do and if I were a coach would be to roll with Smith and let Roloson ride the pine for Game 5. I wouldn't completely rule out Roloson starting in game 6, but no doubt Smith should start game 5 and keep the winning team together. Am I making any sense or am I just a "short sighted fan"?
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                            • D3 Mighty Ducks
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-17-09
                              • 11939

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DennisGreen
                              Roloson is in for game 5 confirmed on Twitter via Bob McKenzie.
                              Dumb move in my opinion by the Lightning. Really dumb move.
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                              • FindTheLock
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-27-10
                                • 7194

                                #16
                                one thing is for certain. No lead in this series is safe. It has made no difference whether the Goalies were hot or cold, so far what it really boils down to is who has the better offense, and for that reason I like tampa to win this series. thomas gave up 4 unanswered in game 4, I wonder why no one is talking about pulling him out of the net?
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                                • KnuckKnasty
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 05-08-11
                                  • 25

                                  #17
                                  In my opinion, the only reason the series isn't 3-1 or 4-0 TB is there goaltender problem. They've shown that they compete against the Bruins (especially Thomas). Roloson has had some good games and some poor games. He came back pretty strong after his let down in game 2. Lets hope that he does the same in game 5. Sometimes goaltenders have breakdowns. I say start him and game 5 and see how he performs.

                                  In Game 1: 31-33 (93%) and game 3: 23-25 (92%)
                                  In game 2: 21-27 (77%) and game 4: 6-9 (66%)

                                  With the goaltender situation in mind, who do you all think is going to take this series?
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                                  • Miser
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-02-08
                                    • 941

                                    #18
                                    Got to stick with Roloson he's the horse that got them here
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                                    • FindTheLock
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 02-27-10
                                      • 7194

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KnuckKnasty
                                      In my opinion, the only reason the series isn't 3-1 or 4-0 TB is there goaltender problem. They've shown that they compete against the Bruins (especially Thomas). Roloson has had some good games and some poor games. He came back pretty strong after his let down in game 2. Lets hope that he does the same in game 5. Sometimes goaltenders have breakdowns. I say start him and game 5 and see how he performs.

                                      In Game 1: 31-33 (93%) and game 3: 23-25 (92%)
                                      In game 2: 21-27 (77%) and game 4: 6-9 (66%)

                                      With the goaltender situation in mind, who do you all think is going to take this series?
                                      game 2 was won by the refs. That's all there is to say about that game. Boston didn't deserve to be within 3 goals if the refs didn't send them on the PP after phantom penalties added up to about an entire period of being a man down or worse for the lightning. Tampa shouldn't have any problems winning this series as long as roloson gets some help in front. Some of the lightnings defenders are turning the puck over like they are trying to get an assist on the boston stat sheet.
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                                      • bobbyk1133
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-05-10
                                        • 2245

                                        #20
                                        Roloson should get the start. If they lose game 5 and get desperate they could always turn to Smith in game 6.

                                        As shaky as Roloson's been, we are talking about SMITH here! I don't care how good he looked in relief--it's a much different story when you prepare as the starter. There's a reason why Yzerman shipped Ellis out of town and brought in Roloson....
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                                        • dazed99
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 11-02-09
                                          • 103

                                          #21
                                          Roloson is confirmed game 5 starter
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                                          • skm39
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-03-11
                                            • 171

                                            #22
                                            It doesn't matter who they start because Tim Thomas just guaranteed the Bruins will win the series
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                                            • FlashinLeather
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-04-11
                                              • 573

                                              #23
                                              gotta go with the man that got you there, roli all the way
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                                              • avssakic
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-12-07
                                                • 1795

                                                #24
                                                Roloson with the bounce back game tonight
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                                                • k13
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                  • 18104

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by skm39
                                                  It doesn't matter who they start because Tim Thomas just guaranteed the Bruins will win the series
                                                  ha, great, now they are going to lose for sure.
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                                                  • sanchez
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 02-02-11
                                                    • 223

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by steviec27
                                                    You gotta think if they start Smith what will that do to Rollys confidence. Could knock him down or fire him up, who's to know.

                                                    Sometimes after a bad game it's good for the goalie to get back in there and put it right. He dont wanna be on the bench thinking the coach has no faith in him.

                                                    I'd go with Rolly.
                                                    roloson is a 41 year old pro hockey player

                                                    i don't think self confidence is an issue

                                                    he isn't 15 years old
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                                                    • bigsmitty
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-12-10
                                                      • 3026

                                                      #27
                                                      Have to start Rolly but I'm sure he's on a medium leash-three or four goals seems like the "over/under" point in that regard through the first forty minutes. Cheers
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                                                      • hockey216
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-20-08
                                                        • 4583

                                                        #28
                                                        either goalie can get it done. roloson didn't have a perfect game in game 4, but none of those 3 goals were his fault. he could have had the 3rd one, but it was still a big turnover that led to a chance in the slot. he's the 2nd best goalie in playoffs behind thomas. smith has been good too. either way i dont think they can go wrong. but i expect roloson in net. hes been solid all playoffs. cant blame him for crazy defensive breakdowns right in front of the net.
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                                                        • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-17-09
                                                          • 11939

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by skm39
                                                          It doesn't matter who they start because Tim Thomas just guaranteed the Bruins will win the series
                                                          Heard about this as well. Thomas has the ability to steal a game or two like we've seen him do in the Montreal series. When a goalie guarantees anything you know hes going to be playing his heart out. If we all agree that Roloson will be looking for a chance to redeem himself after getting yanked in 2 out of 4 games this series and Timmy Thomas is guaranteeing winning the series, the Under 5.5 might be a worth a look tonight.
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                                                          • the_situation
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-22-10
                                                            • 2735

                                                            #30
                                                            Roloson easily
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                                                            • DwightShrute
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-17-09
                                                              • 103249

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                              Who you calling a short sighted fan? When did I blame Roloson for going down 3-0 after the first period? All I am saying is if the Bruins haven't scored when Smith is between the pipes why not stick with whats working. The momentum has shifted in favor of the Lightning after their 5 unanswered goals. I think the logical thing for the Lightning to do and if I were a coach would be to roll with Smith and let Roloson ride the pine for Game 5. I wouldn't completely rule out Roloson starting in game 6, but no doubt Smith should start game 5 and keep the winning team together. Am I making any sense or am I just a "short sighted fan"?

                                                              I wasn't calling you short sighted. Sorry if you took it that way. I was making a general statement to guys that 'always' blame the goalie. You obviously know hockey and don't fall in that category.
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                                                              • FindTheLock
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-27-10
                                                                • 7194

                                                                #32
                                                                I don't think the goalie mattered as much as the defensive turn overs getting cleaned up when smith got to come in. If Roloson stayed in the game after surrendering those first 3 goals I think he could have pitched a shutout too, providing he got the same blocks smith got. Roloson got hung out to dry in the first period by his defense. I don't blame him for most of those goals, but he did let a few weak ones in recently, and I am not denying that. I am a lightning fan and I want roloson in the net tonight. I have seen what he can do and having a few bad games isn't going to make me forget that.
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                                                                • General Custer
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 02-16-11
                                                                  • 210

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Gotta stick with the guy that got you there. Roloson knows hes got a short leash especially playing on the road but after almost 20+ years of pro hockey I dont think nerves and such get to him very much. Starting Smith in Game 5 would show a complete lack of faith in Roloson and would pretty much guarantee him riding the bench for the remainder of the playoffs
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                                                                  • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-17-09
                                                                    • 11939

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute


                                                                    I wasn't calling you short sighted. Sorry if you took it that way. I was making a general statement to guys that 'always' blame the goalie. You obviously know hockey and don't fall in that category.
                                                                    All good bro
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 01-17-09
                                                                      • 103249

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                                      All good bro
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