Wanna Make Some SERIOUS Cash........

[RAK]

I wasnt necessarily asking you to put your NBA stuff in this thread. I just figured you would check this thread more regularly bc its your own thread, so my post would more likely catch your attention. I suggest starting a fresh NBA thread for your plays. But yeah, i agree to just sticking with hockey here.

Sidenote, are you interested in the spreadsheet i have setup for these hockey plays, Solomans road system, and the Chase 110 system? Has a calendar and a summary bet page. Ill post it if youre interested.

How about posting the spreadsheet for the rest of us? Thanks in advance. Cheers!

[FlashinLeather]

How about posting the spreadsheet for the rest of us? Thanks in advance. Cheers!

I would like to see this as well, wish I tailed from day one, great call.

[jas19illini]

Will PM later.

[jcygts6]

Can you post the spreadsheet my pm don't work. I'll give points

[RAK]

Will PM later.

Thanks. I tried to transfer points to you, but it wont work.

[jas19illini]

Can you post the spreadsheet my pm don't work. I'll give points

Here it is. Calendar had to be split up so it didnt get too confusing, thats why theres two tabs for each month. It has multiple systems. NBA/NHL Totals system, Chase 110 (not on the calendar), NBA Road Halves. For the NBA/NHL Totals system i have more plays than what is in this thread. Feel free to skip those extra plays at your own discretion.

[jcygts6]

thanks jas19illini

[jas19illini]

thanks jas19illini

No problem. Thanks for the pts.

[Rolo1984]

which (best) book does offer under/over per team and not team goals?

[jas19illini]

No, we're not betting TEAM Totals, we're betting GAME Totals.

[Rolo1984]

No, we're not betting TEAM Totals, we're betting GAME Totals.

oh tnx thought you bet total for a specific team.

[jas19illini]

oh tnx thought you bet total for a specific team.

Nope. If youre referring to the spread sheet, i only listed is as, for example, NYR - Under so i knew which game and which side to take, NOT to bet the UNDER for the NYR Team Total.

[peacepipe]

Just wanted to say thanks for the spreadsheet jas and thanks for the thread JW.

I started using SBR for daily lines and stumbled into the forums, some fascinating info here. I Have been flat betting and capping my own games, some ups, some downs. Looking to expand my arsenal and try out some of the under plays in this thread using a labby. Still not confident on some of the finer points and had some noob questions to throw out there.

If i set up a 2 line labby, how do the game sequences mentioned in this thread play into it? Do you run a unique labby for each team? or do you run all teams on the same set of lines. Do you have to wait for a sequence of 3 consecutive home (or road) games to start a line, or do you play every road or home game that fits.

For example, Today the plays are NSH under, NYI Over, and ATL Over. So do i set up a 2 line 5-5-5-5 and put all the outcomes against the top line? then tomorrow play mtl and wsh under against the 2nd line?

Thanks
Have a good one

[jas19illini]

Just wanted to say thanks for the spreadsheet jas and thanks for the thread JW.

I started using SBR for daily lines and stumbled into the forums, some fascinating info here. I Have been flat betting and capping my own games, some ups, some downs. Looking to expand my arsenal and try out some of the under plays in this thread using a labby. Still not confident on some of the finer points and had some noob questions to throw out there.

If i set up a 2 line labby, how do the game sequences mentioned in this thread play into it? Do you run a unique labby for each team? or do you run all teams on the same set of lines. Do you have to wait for a sequence of 3 consecutive home (or road) games to start a line, or do you play every road or home game that fits.

For example, Today the plays are NSH under, NYI Over, and ATL Over. So do i set up a 2 line 5-5-5-5 and put all the outcomes against the top line? then tomorrow play mtl and wsh under against the 2nd line?

Thanks
Have a good one

Im doing my "system" a bit differently. I have more plays than JW has officially listed in this thread. He has listed the best plays on the board, but i found some other plays that were still really good, just not quite at the level of the plays he listed. So think of it as 2 tiers. The lower tier (the additional plays) im playing on Line 1, the upper tier (JWs plays) im playing on Line 2. If i lose a Line 1 game, im keeping 40% of the loss on Line 1 and dropping 60% of the loss down to Line 2. Conversely, if i lose a game on Line 2 then im keeping 60% on Line 2 and moving 40% up to Line 1. The reason being is that the 60% will be going to the Line that has more consistent winners (Line 2), so in theory i should be able to recoup my losses a little faster.

So my plays today were Atlanta Over on Line 1, and Nashville Under and NY Islanders Over on Line 2. If that makes sense.....

[Rolo1984]

Just a question what lines do you guys have on the islanders and nashville games?

[jas19illini]

Nyi 5.5

nash 5

[Rolo1984]

Nyi 5.5

nash 5

ok, me too got them at quotes

nash +104
NY -101

same quotes for you?

[TheTreeOfLife]

good luck with the plays
hope to see everyone at the bank

[jas19illini]

ok, me too got them at quotes

nash +104
ny -101

same quotes for you?

nyi -110

nash +100

[peacepipe]

Im doing my "system" a bit differently. I have more plays than JW has officially listed in this thread. He has listed the best plays on the board, but i found some other plays that were still really good, just not quite at the level of the plays he listed. So think of it as 2 tiers. The lower tier (the additional plays) im playing on Line 1, the upper tier (JWs plays) im playing on Line 2. If i lose a Line 1 game, im keeping 40% of the loss on Line 1 and dropping 60% of the loss down to Line 2. Conversely, if i lose a game on Line 2 then im keeping 60% on Line 2 and moving 40% up to Line 1. The reason being is that the 60% will be going to the Line that has more consistent winners (Line 2), so in theory i should be able to recoup my losses a little faster.

So my plays today were Atlanta Over on Line 1, and Nashville Under and NY Islanders Over on Line 2. If that makes sense.....

I think i got that part, so JW play wagers are constructed off line 2 values only and wins are crossed out against line 2.

Where i get lost is how to run a 2 (or 3 ) line labby in conjunction with playing multiple teams. So, lets say i chose to play all Mon away Under, Nsh home under and NYI home over.

Based on the schedule, 2 plays today on line 1, losses get split 40/60 across 2 lines, wins crossed off of line 1. MTL away under play tomorrow would be constructed from line 1 because its a game 1 of a sequence (MTL unders)? or do you play it off of line 2 values because its now the 3rd game of all the teams im playing.

From my understanding having multiple lines splits the losses to another line where the next game has a higher probability of hitting. Would it not be best to run a unique 2 line labby for each team your are tracking? or do the odds say having multiple teams playing against 1, 2 line labby will have less of chance of a "dry spell"


Hope that makes sense
Thanks

[jas19illini]

From want JW to chime in here to answer your question.

[RAK]

Here it is. Calendar had to be split up so it didnt get too confusing, thats why theres two tabs for each month. It has multiple systems. NBA/NHL Totals system, Chase 110 (not on the calendar), NBA Road Halves. For the NBA/NHL Totals system i have more plays than what is in this thread. Feel free to skip those extra plays at your own discretion.

Thanks Jas This spreadsheet is great. For some reason i cannot transfer pts to anyone. Sorry

[JW Cash]

Ok heres what i do....

I have the Series Results in a 3 Game Chase format because most
people can identify with that because JM and SBP uses that format....

BUT WE DONT EVER, EVER CHASE...........

I use a 2 Line Labby.....

10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10


I play ALL A Bets on Line 1
I play ALL B Bets on Line 2
I play ALL C Bets on Line 1


When a A Bet loses....you can ....

Divide the loss equally between the 2 lines
Divide the loss by percentage and put 60% on Line 2 and leave 40% on Line 1 or use any percentage that you like.......

I use a slightly aggressive 2 Line Labby.....

When a A Bet loses......I will put the entire A Bet loss on Line 2 and I add the loss to the 4 numerical
varibles and divide by 4....

If the B Bet loses I put that loss on Line 1.....

Then just rinse and repeat....So a line of

10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

When A Bet loses......my labby looks like

10-10-10-10
15-15-15-15


If the B Bet Loses.....we have

18-18-18-18
15-15-15-15


If the lines get too big you can always add more numerical varibles to the 2 Lines
or add another Line.....

That being said ...When I attain my profit goal for that labby ( equivalent of Line 1 cleared twice)
I dropped that labby no matter what the lines look like....


I have ONE 2 Line labby for the NHL plays.....


Both NY Islanders HOME OVER and Nashville HOME UNDER are A Bets tonight.....

[JW Cash]

the rangers away under has amazing results right now

The Rangers are currently on a Incredible 15 AWAY UNDER Streak.......

[JW Cash]

In case you are interested....

The culmulative W/L record of the 6 teams we are investing in is listed below....

Whether we want the OVER or UNDER .....the record is...


127-60........ 67.9%


Bear in mind.....you can make a profit with labby when you are at 50% Win Percentage....


Doing labby with a 67.9% is just Sick........

[jcygts6]

Hey JW thanks for your generous help and explanation. Guys like you make the forums a better place. Do you see these 6 team trends holding up for the rest of the season?

[jas19illini]

Ok heres what i do....

I have the Series Results in a 3 Game Chase format because most
people can identify with that because JM and SBP uses that format....

BUT WE DONT EVER, EVER CHASE...........

I use a 2 Line Labby.....

10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10


I play ALL A Bets on Line 1
I play ALL B Bets on Line 2
I play ALL C Bets on Line 1


When a A Bet loses....you can ....

Divide the loss equally between the 2 lines
Divide the loss by percentage and put 60% on Line 2 and leave 40% on Line 1 or use any percentage that you like.......

I use a slightly aggressive 2 Line Labby.....

When a A Bet loses......I will put the entire A Bet loss on Line 2 and I add the loss to the 4 numerical
varibles and divide by 4....

If the B Bet loses I put that loss on Line 1.....

Then just rinse and repeat....So a line of

10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10

When A Bet loses......my labby looks like

10-10-10-10
15-15-15-15


If the B Bet Loses.....we have

18-18-18-18
15-15-15-15


If the lines get too big you can always add more numerical varibles to the 2 Lines
or add another Line.....

That being said ...When I attain my profit goal for that labby ( equivalent of Line 1 cleared twice)
I dropped that labby no matter what the lines look like....


I have ONE 2 Line labby for the NHL plays.....


Both NY Islanders HOME OVER and Nashville HOME UNDER are A Bets tonight.....

See, thats the great thing about a Labby, everyone has their own way of using it. Its very customizable which is great. And as JW stated, even though its called a chase series, we're not really chasing. Bc of that fact, it allows us even more flexibility with our Labby. Good post JW.

[RAK]

JW. Thanks for taking the time and all the helpful information.

[jas19illini]

Thanks Jas This spreadsheet is great. For some reason i cannot transfer pts to anyone. Sorry

No worries, glad it helps.

[JW Cash]

Hey JW thanks for your generous help and explanation. Guys like you make the forums a better place. Do you see these 6 team trends holding up for the rest of the season?

I am sure there will be some regression but as long
you use the right money management ( labby ) there
should still be some easy money to be made....

Tonight, the Islanders were on a 6 game HOME OVER and actually
10 out of their last 11 were HOME OVER....so they were due a Home Under

Then you got the Rangers...going AWAY UNDER the last 15 Away Games...

For whatever reasons ...teams play the style that allows these incredible..
opportunities....

I remember a few years back where the LA Dodgers went HOME UNDER
a huge percentage ALL season ....just easy money.......

And so far...I havent even touched on the records of teams when
they have 1 HOME UNDER/HOME OVER...etc....and how they respond
in the next game.....

Stay tuned.....and thanks for the points......

[peacepipe]

Thanks JW, great explanation in your last post. Im almost there, I believe I understand the 2 lines concept now.

Ok heres what i do....

I have the Series Results in a 3 Game Chase format because most
people can identify with that because JM and SBP uses that format....

BUT WE DONT EVER, EVER CHASE...........

I use a 2 Line Labby.....

10-10-10-10
10-10-10-10


I play ALL A Bets on Line 1
I play ALL B Bets on Line 2
I play ALL C Bets on Line 1

Im not sure if this matters at all but how do you determine an "A,B, or C" bet? I read through the JM thread and others so i get that he picks out the first 3 games of a road trip and plays those games as A, B, C. So lets say the NYI goes under tonight, there next home game would be a B bet, but if if goes over, the next home game becomes an A again? Because a "C" bet means go back to the 1st line, im not sure its relevant. And because its not a chase, a D bet is played, and an E bet and on and on.

That being said ...When I attain my profit goal for that labby ( equivalent of Line 1 cleared twice)
I dropped that labby no matter what the lines look like....

So its possible to obtain the profit you were looking for without clearing both lines? So in the case of a 10-10-10-10 2 line, 80 units profit can be obtained while the lines might still not be cleared?

Thanks for your replies and patience.

[JW Cash]

Thanks JW, great explanation in your last post. Im almost there, I believe I understand the 2 lines concept now.




Im not sure if this matters at all but how do you determine an "A,B, or C" bet? I read through the JM thread and others so i get that he picks out the first 3 games of a road trip and plays those games as A, B, C. So lets say the NYI goes under tonight, there next home game would be a B bet, but if if goes over, the next home game becomes an A again? Because a "C" bet means go back to the 1st line, im not sure its relevant. And because its not a chase, a D bet is played, and an E bet and on and on.



So its possible to obtain the profit you were looking for without clearing both lines? So in the case of a 10-10-10-10 2 line, 80 units profit can be obtained while the lines might still not be cleared?

Thanks for your replies and patience.

I have a Profit Goal attached to my labby spreadsheet....

i.e. say EVERY labby starts out with a $100 balance....

When my labby balance is $180 ...I drop that labby and start
a new one with an increased opening balance amount ( compounding)

With the nature of adding volume to the labby as plays are decided....that profit goal
really can be reached at any time......

That is how I do my Labourchere........

Thanks for asking............

[atari5200]

nashville under 5 was a push tonight.
so if we bet under 5 and 5.5 it woulda been a winner right?

mtl is available at under 5 right now at +115 odds (pinnacle)

JW, do you think its a good idea to wait and get it at under 5 and 5.5?

[JW Cash]

nashville under 5 was a push tonight.
so if we bet under 5 and 5.5 it woulda been a winner right?

mtl is available at under 5 right now at +115 odds (pinnacle)

JW, do you think its a good idea to wait and get it at under 5 and 5.5?

If its at 5 right now...I doubt it is gonna move......


NHL totals are not like NBA totals which can change every hour.....

[atari5200]

Pinny allows the option to change it, +115 could be changed to somewhere between -120 to -140 area for the 5 and 5.5 but they make you wait til a few hours before the puck drops to do it.

so I guess then you're gonna take the 5 and always take the listed number without buying the extra .5