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  • RAK
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-29-10
    • 237

    #106
    Originally posted by jas19illini
    I wasnt necessarily asking you to put your NBA stuff in this thread. I just figured you would check this thread more regularly bc its your own thread, so my post would more likely catch your attention. I suggest starting a fresh NBA thread for your plays. But yeah, i agree to just sticking with hockey here.

    Sidenote, are you interested in the spreadsheet i have setup for these hockey plays, Solomans road system, and the Chase 110 system? Has a calendar and a summary bet page. Ill post it if youre interested.

    How about posting the spreadsheet for the rest of us? Thanks in advance. Cheers!
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    • FlashinLeather
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-04-11
      • 573

      #107
      Originally posted by RAK
      How about posting the spreadsheet for the rest of us? Thanks in advance. Cheers!
      I would like to see this as well, wish I tailed from day one, great call.
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      • jas19illini
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-27-10
        • 682

        #108
        Will PM later.
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        • jcygts6
          SBR MVP
          • 04-05-09
          • 3316

          #109
          Can you post the spreadsheet my pm don't work. I'll give points
          DO WORK + KROW OD
          do work! do work! do work! do work!
          od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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          • RAK
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-29-10
            • 237

            #110
            Originally posted by jas19illini
            Will PM later.
            Thanks. I tried to transfer points to you, but it wont work.
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            • jas19illini
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-27-10
              • 682

              #111
              Originally posted by jcygts6
              Can you post the spreadsheet my pm don't work. I'll give points
              Here it is. Calendar had to be split up so it didnt get too confusing, thats why theres two tabs for each month. It has multiple systems. NBA/NHL Totals system, Chase 110 (not on the calendar), NBA Road Halves. For the NBA/NHL Totals system i have more plays than what is in this thread. Feel free to skip those extra plays at your own discretion.
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              • jcygts6
                SBR MVP
                • 04-05-09
                • 3316

                #112
                thanks jas19illini
                DO WORK + KROW OD
                do work! do work! do work! do work!
                od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                • jas19illini
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-27-10
                  • 682

                  #113
                  Originally posted by jcygts6
                  No problem. Thanks for the pts.
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                  • Rolo1984
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 02-16-11
                    • 204

                    #114
                    which (best) book does offer under/over per team and not team goals?
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                    • jas19illini
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-27-10
                      • 682

                      #115
                      No, we're not betting TEAM Totals, we're betting GAME Totals.
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                      • Rolo1984
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-16-11
                        • 204

                        #116
                        Originally posted by jas19illini
                        No, we're not betting TEAM Totals, we're betting GAME Totals.

                        oh tnx thought you bet total for a specific team.
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                        • jas19illini
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-27-10
                          • 682

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Rolo1984
                          oh tnx thought you bet total for a specific team.
                          Nope. If youre referring to the spread sheet, i only listed is as, for example, NYR - Under so i knew which game and which side to take, NOT to bet the UNDER for the NYR Team Total.
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                          • peacepipe
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 11-08-10
                            • 21

                            #118
                            Just wanted to say thanks for the spreadsheet jas and thanks for the thread JW.

                            I started using SBR for daily lines and stumbled into the forums, some fascinating info here. I Have been flat betting and capping my own games, some ups, some downs. Looking to expand my arsenal and try out some of the under plays in this thread using a labby. Still not confident on some of the finer points and had some noob questions to throw out there.

                            If i set up a 2 line labby, how do the game sequences mentioned in this thread play into it? Do you run a unique labby for each team? or do you run all teams on the same set of lines. Do you have to wait for a sequence of 3 consecutive home (or road) games to start a line, or do you play every road or home game that fits.

                            For example, Today the plays are NSH under, NYI Over, and ATL Over. So do i set up a 2 line 5-5-5-5 and put all the outcomes against the top line? then tomorrow play mtl and wsh under against the 2nd line?

                            Thanks
                            Have a good one
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                            • jas19illini
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-27-10
                              • 682

                              #119
                              Originally posted by peacepipe
                              Just wanted to say thanks for the spreadsheet jas and thanks for the thread JW.

                              I started using SBR for daily lines and stumbled into the forums, some fascinating info here. I Have been flat betting and capping my own games, some ups, some downs. Looking to expand my arsenal and try out some of the under plays in this thread using a labby. Still not confident on some of the finer points and had some noob questions to throw out there.

                              If i set up a 2 line labby, how do the game sequences mentioned in this thread play into it? Do you run a unique labby for each team? or do you run all teams on the same set of lines. Do you have to wait for a sequence of 3 consecutive home (or road) games to start a line, or do you play every road or home game that fits.

                              For example, Today the plays are NSH under, NYI Over, and ATL Over. So do i set up a 2 line 5-5-5-5 and put all the outcomes against the top line? then tomorrow play mtl and wsh under against the 2nd line?

                              Thanks
                              Have a good one
                              Im doing my "system" a bit differently. I have more plays than JW has officially listed in this thread. He has listed the best plays on the board, but i found some other plays that were still really good, just not quite at the level of the plays he listed. So think of it as 2 tiers. The lower tier (the additional plays) im playing on Line 1, the upper tier (JWs plays) im playing on Line 2. If i lose a Line 1 game, im keeping 40% of the loss on Line 1 and dropping 60% of the loss down to Line 2. Conversely, if i lose a game on Line 2 then im keeping 60% on Line 2 and moving 40% up to Line 1. The reason being is that the 60% will be going to the Line that has more consistent winners (Line 2), so in theory i should be able to recoup my losses a little faster.

                              So my plays today were Atlanta Over on Line 1, and Nashville Under and NY Islanders Over on Line 2. If that makes sense.....
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                              • Rolo1984
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-16-11
                                • 204

                                #120
                                Just a question what lines do you guys have on the islanders and nashville games?
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                                • jas19illini
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-27-10
                                  • 682

                                  #121
                                  Nyi 5.5

                                  nash 5
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                                  • Rolo1984
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 02-16-11
                                    • 204

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by jas19illini
                                    Nyi 5.5

                                    nash 5
                                    ok, me too got them at quotes

                                    nash +104
                                    NY -101

                                    same quotes for you?
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                                    • TheTreeOfLife
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 11-20-10
                                      • 41

                                      #123
                                      good luck with the plays
                                      hope to see everyone at the bank
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                                      • jas19illini
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-27-10
                                        • 682

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by rolo1984
                                        ok, me too got them at quotes

                                        nash +104
                                        ny -101

                                        same quotes for you?
                                        nyi -110

                                        nash +100
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                                        • peacepipe
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 11-08-10
                                          • 21

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by jas19illini
                                          Im doing my "system" a bit differently. I have more plays than JW has officially listed in this thread. He has listed the best plays on the board, but i found some other plays that were still really good, just not quite at the level of the plays he listed. So think of it as 2 tiers. The lower tier (the additional plays) im playing on Line 1, the upper tier (JWs plays) im playing on Line 2. If i lose a Line 1 game, im keeping 40% of the loss on Line 1 and dropping 60% of the loss down to Line 2. Conversely, if i lose a game on Line 2 then im keeping 60% on Line 2 and moving 40% up to Line 1. The reason being is that the 60% will be going to the Line that has more consistent winners (Line 2), so in theory i should be able to recoup my losses a little faster.

                                          So my plays today were Atlanta Over on Line 1, and Nashville Under and NY Islanders Over on Line 2. If that makes sense.....
                                          I think i got that part, so JW play wagers are constructed off line 2 values only and wins are crossed out against line 2.

                                          Where i get lost is how to run a 2 (or 3 ) line labby in conjunction with playing multiple teams. So, lets say i chose to play all Mon away Under, Nsh home under and NYI home over.

                                          Based on the schedule, 2 plays today on line 1, losses get split 40/60 across 2 lines, wins crossed off of line 1. MTL away under play tomorrow would be constructed from line 1 because its a game 1 of a sequence (MTL unders)? or do you play it off of line 2 values because its now the 3rd game of all the teams im playing.

                                          From my understanding having multiple lines splits the losses to another line where the next game has a higher probability of hitting. Would it not be best to run a unique 2 line labby for each team your are tracking? or do the odds say having multiple teams playing against 1, 2 line labby will have less of chance of a "dry spell"


                                          Hope that makes sense
                                          Thanks
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                                          • jas19illini
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-27-10
                                            • 682

                                            #126
                                            From want JW to chime in here to answer your question.
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                                            • RAK
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 11-29-10
                                              • 237

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by jas19illini
                                              Here it is. Calendar had to be split up so it didnt get too confusing, thats why theres two tabs for each month. It has multiple systems. NBA/NHL Totals system, Chase 110 (not on the calendar), NBA Road Halves. For the NBA/NHL Totals system i have more plays than what is in this thread. Feel free to skip those extra plays at your own discretion.
                                              Thanks Jas This spreadsheet is great. For some reason i cannot transfer pts to anyone. Sorry
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                                              • JW Cash
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-31-08
                                                • 4453

                                                #128
                                                Ok heres what i do....

                                                I have the Series Results in a 3 Game Chase format because most
                                                people can identify with that because JM and SBP uses that format....

                                                BUT WE DONT EVER, EVER CHASE...........

                                                I use a 2 Line Labby.....

                                                10-10-10-10
                                                10-10-10-10


                                                I play ALL A Bets on Line 1
                                                I play ALL B Bets on Line 2
                                                I play ALL C Bets on Line 1


                                                When a A Bet loses....you can ....

                                                Divide the loss equally between the 2 lines
                                                Divide the loss by percentage and put 60% on Line 2 and leave 40% on Line 1 or use any percentage that you like.......

                                                I use a slightly aggressive 2 Line Labby.....

                                                When a A Bet loses......I will put the entire A Bet loss on Line 2 and I add the loss to the 4 numerical
                                                varibles and divide by 4....

                                                If the B Bet loses I put that loss on Line 1.....

                                                Then just rinse and repeat....So a line of

                                                10-10-10-10
                                                10-10-10-10

                                                When A Bet loses......my labby looks like

                                                10-10-10-10
                                                15-15-15-15


                                                If the B Bet Loses.....we have

                                                18-18-18-18
                                                15-15-15-15


                                                If the lines get too big you can always add more numerical varibles to the 2 Lines
                                                or add another Line.....

                                                That being said ...When I attain my profit goal for that labby ( equivalent of Line 1 cleared twice)
                                                I dropped that labby no matter what the lines look like....


                                                I have ONE 2 Line labby for the NHL plays.....


                                                Both NY Islanders HOME OVER and Nashville HOME UNDER are A Bets tonight.....
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                                                • JW Cash
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-31-08
                                                  • 4453

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by paintball1084
                                                  the rangers away under has amazing results right now


                                                  The Rangers are currently on a Incredible 15 AWAY UNDER Streak.......
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                                                  • JW Cash
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-31-08
                                                    • 4453

                                                    #130
                                                    In case you are interested....

                                                    The culmulative W/L record of the 6 teams we are investing in is listed below....

                                                    Whether we want the OVER or UNDER .....the record is...


                                                    127-60........ 67.9%


                                                    Bear in mind.....you can make a profit with labby when you are at 50% Win Percentage....


                                                    Doing labby with a 67.9% is just Sick........
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                                                    • jcygts6
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-05-09
                                                      • 3316

                                                      #131
                                                      Hey JW thanks for your generous help and explanation. Guys like you make the forums a better place. Do you see these 6 team trends holding up for the rest of the season?
                                                      DO WORK + KROW OD
                                                      do work! do work! do work! do work!
                                                      od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                                                      • jas19illini
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 10-27-10
                                                        • 682

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by JW Cash
                                                        Ok heres what i do....

                                                        I have the Series Results in a 3 Game Chase format because most
                                                        people can identify with that because JM and SBP uses that format....

                                                        BUT WE DONT EVER, EVER CHASE...........

                                                        I use a 2 Line Labby.....

                                                        10-10-10-10
                                                        10-10-10-10


                                                        I play ALL A Bets on Line 1
                                                        I play ALL B Bets on Line 2
                                                        I play ALL C Bets on Line 1


                                                        When a A Bet loses....you can ....

                                                        Divide the loss equally between the 2 lines
                                                        Divide the loss by percentage and put 60% on Line 2 and leave 40% on Line 1 or use any percentage that you like.......

                                                        I use a slightly aggressive 2 Line Labby.....

                                                        When a A Bet loses......I will put the entire A Bet loss on Line 2 and I add the loss to the 4 numerical
                                                        varibles and divide by 4....

                                                        If the B Bet loses I put that loss on Line 1.....

                                                        Then just rinse and repeat....So a line of

                                                        10-10-10-10
                                                        10-10-10-10

                                                        When A Bet loses......my labby looks like

                                                        10-10-10-10
                                                        15-15-15-15


                                                        If the B Bet Loses.....we have

                                                        18-18-18-18
                                                        15-15-15-15


                                                        If the lines get too big you can always add more numerical varibles to the 2 Lines
                                                        or add another Line.....

                                                        That being said ...When I attain my profit goal for that labby ( equivalent of Line 1 cleared twice)
                                                        I dropped that labby no matter what the lines look like....


                                                        I have ONE 2 Line labby for the NHL plays.....


                                                        Both NY Islanders HOME OVER and Nashville HOME UNDER are A Bets tonight.....
                                                        See, thats the great thing about a Labby, everyone has their own way of using it. Its very customizable which is great. And as JW stated, even though its called a chase series, we're not really chasing. Bc of that fact, it allows us even more flexibility with our Labby. Good post JW.
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                                                        • RAK
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 11-29-10
                                                          • 237

                                                          #133
                                                          JW. Thanks for taking the time and all the helpful information.
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                                                          • jas19illini
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-27-10
                                                            • 682

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by RAK
                                                            Thanks Jas This spreadsheet is great. For some reason i cannot transfer pts to anyone. Sorry
                                                            No worries, glad it helps.
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                                                            • JW Cash
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-31-08
                                                              • 4453

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by jcygts6
                                                              Hey JW thanks for your generous help and explanation. Guys like you make the forums a better place. Do you see these 6 team trends holding up for the rest of the season?


                                                              I am sure there will be some regression but as long
                                                              you use the right money management ( labby ) there
                                                              should still be some easy money to be made....

                                                              Tonight, the Islanders were on a 6 game HOME OVER and actually
                                                              10 out of their last 11 were HOME OVER....so they were due a Home Under

                                                              Then you got the Rangers...going AWAY UNDER the last 15 Away Games...

                                                              For whatever reasons ...teams play the style that allows these incredible..
                                                              opportunities....

                                                              I remember a few years back where the LA Dodgers went HOME UNDER
                                                              a huge percentage ALL season ....just easy money.......

                                                              And so far...I havent even touched on the records of teams when
                                                              they have 1 HOME UNDER/HOME OVER...etc....and how they respond
                                                              in the next game.....

                                                              Stay tuned.....and thanks for the points......
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                                                              • peacepipe
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 11-08-10
                                                                • 21

                                                                #136
                                                                Thanks JW, great explanation in your last post. Im almost there, I believe I understand the 2 lines concept now.

                                                                Originally posted by JW Cash
                                                                Ok heres what i do....

                                                                I have the Series Results in a 3 Game Chase format because most
                                                                people can identify with that because JM and SBP uses that format....

                                                                BUT WE DONT EVER, EVER CHASE...........

                                                                I use a 2 Line Labby.....

                                                                10-10-10-10
                                                                10-10-10-10


                                                                I play ALL A Bets on Line 1
                                                                I play ALL B Bets on Line 2
                                                                I play ALL C Bets on Line 1

                                                                Im not sure if this matters at all but how do you determine an "A,B, or C" bet? I read through the JM thread and others so i get that he picks out the first 3 games of a road trip and plays those games as A, B, C. So lets say the NYI goes under tonight, there next home game would be a B bet, but if if goes over, the next home game becomes an A again? Because a "C" bet means go back to the 1st line, im not sure its relevant. And because its not a chase, a D bet is played, and an E bet and on and on.

                                                                That being said ...When I attain my profit goal for that labby ( equivalent of Line 1 cleared twice)
                                                                I dropped that labby no matter what the lines look like....
                                                                So its possible to obtain the profit you were looking for without clearing both lines? So in the case of a 10-10-10-10 2 line, 80 units profit can be obtained while the lines might still not be cleared?

                                                                Thanks for your replies and patience.
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                                                                • JW Cash
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-31-08
                                                                  • 4453

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by peacepipe
                                                                  Thanks JW, great explanation in your last post. Im almost there, I believe I understand the 2 lines concept now.




                                                                  Im not sure if this matters at all but how do you determine an "A,B, or C" bet? I read through the JM thread and others so i get that he picks out the first 3 games of a road trip and plays those games as A, B, C. So lets say the NYI goes under tonight, there next home game would be a B bet, but if if goes over, the next home game becomes an A again? Because a "C" bet means go back to the 1st line, im not sure its relevant. And because its not a chase, a D bet is played, and an E bet and on and on.



                                                                  So its possible to obtain the profit you were looking for without clearing both lines? So in the case of a 10-10-10-10 2 line, 80 units profit can be obtained while the lines might still not be cleared?

                                                                  Thanks for your replies and patience.

                                                                  I have a Profit Goal attached to my labby spreadsheet....

                                                                  i.e. say EVERY labby starts out with a $100 balance....

                                                                  When my labby balance is $180 ...I drop that labby and start
                                                                  a new one with an increased opening balance amount ( compounding)

                                                                  With the nature of adding volume to the labby as plays are decided....that profit goal
                                                                  really can be reached at any time......

                                                                  That is how I do my Labourchere........

                                                                  Thanks for asking............
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                                                                  • atari5200
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 09-15-10
                                                                    • 464

                                                                    #138
                                                                    nashville under 5 was a push tonight.
                                                                    so if we bet under 5 and 5.5 it woulda been a winner right?

                                                                    mtl is available at under 5 right now at +115 odds (pinnacle)

                                                                    JW, do you think its a good idea to wait and get it at under 5 and 5.5?
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                                                                    • JW Cash
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-31-08
                                                                      • 4453

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by atari5200
                                                                      nashville under 5 was a push tonight.
                                                                      so if we bet under 5 and 5.5 it woulda been a winner right?

                                                                      mtl is available at under 5 right now at +115 odds (pinnacle)

                                                                      JW, do you think its a good idea to wait and get it at under 5 and 5.5?


                                                                      If its at 5 right now...I doubt it is gonna move......


                                                                      NHL totals are not like NBA totals which can change every hour.....
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                                                                      • atari5200
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 09-15-10
                                                                        • 464

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Pinny allows the option to change it, +115 could be changed to somewhere between -120 to -140 area for the 5 and 5.5 but they make you wait til a few hours before the puck drops to do it.

                                                                        so I guess then you're gonna take the 5 and always take the listed number without buying the extra .5
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