Injury ALERT!!! DEVILS -165 (3-0 on locks so far)

[KingKolzig]

Gagne and Carter are ruled out for thursday. This is a giant loss for Philly, 2 of their top 4 forwards. And the top 4 forwards are much much better than any other forwards on the team. So a huge chunk of offense missing. NJ will most certainly win this game, this is the biggest hockey lean all playoffs. Get it before it goes to -225 or higher

[Jiggy Fly]

If I wasn't such a die hard Flyers fan, I would be all over it. Rather lay off it than root for the She Devils!!!

[KingKolzig]

If I wasn't such a die hard Flyers fan, I would be all over it. Rather lay off it than root for the She Devils!!!

then you know that Philly needs multiple bounces to win this one. I see NJ winning this game 80% of the time. These 2 guys are so key for Philly, they will struggle to generate any offense with them out. I know anything can happen in one game but philly will not score more than a goal in this game. I like NJ 4-1

[DaHoss]

Thanks for the info, Devils will rock on Thursday

[TJ EasyStreet]

I can't wait to see how they screw this one up. I got a helpful hint for Lemaire: if your players are in Pre-Game interviews and make confused faces when asked what line they will be on, it isn't a good thing.

As for Carter and Gagne, this is good. While rooting for injuries is a disgusting thing to do as a fan, you can always pump your fist over non-serious injuries.

Watch them come back in game 7 and score a trick each.

[blg123]

Devils have suckkkkked this entire series what in your right mind will make u bet them at -165. The series is over tomorrow nite if not then sun that u take to the BANK..

[Dad]

Good info, Mr. Kolzig!

[ji03]

Will get on this thanks.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Same, will on this thanks for the info.

[cecil127]

id be interested in hearing your take on how effective a healthy devils team have played so far.....parise, kovy, elias, zubrus(getting quite the gametime workout lately) etc....

flyers still got "dirty sanchez"-dan the man carcillo, richards(quietly killing nj) and lil danny briere working hard these days. maybe, just maybe they close ranks and play even tougher. it happens. parent's gotta go though!. dress cote, scratch parent and that should offset the carter/gagne absense

here's to hoping your right kk. my series wagers of flyers in 6 and 7 depend on it

[KingKolzig]

Devils have suckkkkked this entire series what in your right mind will make u bet them at -165. The series is over tomorrow nite if not then sun that u take to the BANK..

Sucked?

2 of 3 losses are by 1 goal. Philly is not the better team, no chance. If they played 20 games NJ would win 12. Just so happens that Philly won 2 close games, but with these 2 ALL-STARS (yes actual all-star forwards) out for game 5, and with no time to adjust for it Philly will lose this game. Nevermind Boucher is not exactly a Miller/Rask/Luongo goaltender who could outright steal a 2-1 game at anytime.............on a side note, Jersey comes back from 3-1 like every year

[jjgold]

This is as close to a lock as you will get, might be best play in last 2 months in hockey.

[Jiggy Fly]

then you know that Philly needs multiple bounces to win this one. I see NJ winning this game 80% of the time. These 2 guys are so key for Philly, they will struggle to generate any offense with them out. I know anything can happen in one game but philly will not score more than a goal in this game. I like NJ 4-1

They both have been MIA this series except for Carter last night. They have been winning without them scoring points. Their presence on the ice is gonna be missed. I like Jersey's chances but if Boosh shows up like he has been and the Flyers play tight D, No doubt they can grind out a win and close it out. Should be a good one.

[KingKolzig]

They both have been MIA this series except for Carter last night. They have been winning without them scoring points. Their presence on the ice is gonna be missed. I like Jersey's chances but if Boosh shows up like he has been and the Flyers play tight D, No doubt they can grind out a win and close it out. Should be a good one.

Would Philly make the playoffs if these 2 guys were not on the roster? No, they would finish almost dead last in the east. You can say things like Philly will just "play tough D........."rise above".........."cowboy up"..........but Devils fans can also say "beat a suspect lineup"........."win a home game vs a battered team"............."out chance Philly 15-5 and win 3-1"

So yes they can grind out a win, but it really is more like grind out a win and get really really lucky (unlikely). Devils will win this one.

[TJ EasyStreet]

I am not going to try and dissuade anyone from making the play because the Devils are a good team and you really never can tell no matter how great a handicapper you are or how dedicated a fan you are. However, if I might interject some levity to the situation so nobody blows a significant portion of their bankroll on the Devils, I'd be overjoyed.

I'm new here, but let me tell you I have a sick love of hockey and the New Jersey Devils. I know them as well as I know my damn family! I have absolutely zero confidence in them right now - even less than when the series started and I was borderline hysteric - and, while I hope to have all of you laughing at me while counting your money, I'd be cautious.

1. They haven't won three games in a row since November. No matter how much players feed you that "one game at a time" bullshit, they know stuff like this. And right now they sound like a defeated group that just wants to go home and furiously masturbate while crying tears of sorrow into their burning crotches.

2. They are absolutely abysmal in clinching games and even worse in OT games. They might be the worst playoff OT team in NHL history.

3. Lemaire. How I hate thee. He isn't going to change a thing. It's what he does. It will still be lamppost power-play, line-rolling and line juggling until the players don't even recognize each other anymore.

All in all, I don't see any chance of of a comeback and very little chance of a win tomorrow. Brodeur has been spectacular throughout but he broke in the third period yesterday. I can't blame him; half the shots the Flyers have taken could be considered quality chances. Only his circus act kept them from scoring six.

All we have is Zubrus, Clarkson, and Kovalchuk; the former is someone I cannot believe how well he is playing. Clarkson is again proving he needs more time, but won't get it so Pelley, Leblonde, and Niedermayer can skate around and do nothing. NOTHING! That's it; those three are the last ones left that are both playing well and haven't suffered some sort of mental breakdown.

Since 2003, it has always been something with this team. Lukowich allowing Senators to pile in front of Brodeur, Gomez and Gionta going into caves never to be seen again, Havelid being born ... and this year it is Lemaire.

Good chance this is Kovy's last game in a Devils sweater and I salute you. You have surpassed Alexander Mogilny in my mind as the most sensational player ever to don the red and black (or red and green) and I will miss ya when you get your DuckTales money from someone.


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[KingKolzig]

I am not going to try and dissuade anyone from making the play because the Devils are a good team and you really never can tell no matter how great a handicapper you are or how dedicated a fan you are. However, if I might interject some levity to the situation so nobody blows a significant portion of their bankroll on the Devils, I'd be overjoyed.

I'm new here, but let me tell you I have a sick love of hockey and the New Jersey Devils. I know them as well as I know my damn family! I have absolutely zero confidence in them right now - even less than when the series started and I was borderline hysteric - and, while I hope to have all of you laughing at me while counting your money, I'd be cautious.

1. They haven't won three games in a row since November. No matter how much players feed you that "one game at a time" bullshit, they know stuff like this. And right now they sound like a defeated group that just wants to go home and furiously masturbate while crying tears of sorrow into their burning crotches.

2. They are absolutely abysmal in clinching games and even worse in OT games. They might be the worst playoff OT team in NHL history.

3. Lemaire. How I hate thee. He isn't going to change a thing. It's what he does. It will still be lamppost power-play, line-rolling and line juggling until the players don't even recognize each other anymore.

All in all, I don't see any chance of of a comeback and very little chance of a win tomorrow. Brodeur has been spectacular throughout but he broke in the third period yesterday. I can't blame him; half the shots the Flyers have taken could be considered quality chances. Only his circus act kept them from scoring six.

All we have is Zubrus, Clarkson, and Kovalchuk; the former is someone I cannot believe how well he is playing. Clarkson is again proving he needs more time, but won't get it so Pelley, Leblonde, and Niedermayer can skate around and do nothing. NOTHING! That's it; those three are the last ones left that are both playing well and haven't suffered some sort of mental breakdown.

Since 2003, it has always been something with this team. Lukowich allowing Senators to pile in front of Brodeur, Gomez and Gionta going into caves never to be seen again, Havelid being born ... and this year it is Lemaire.

Good chance this is Kovy's last game in a Devils sweater and I salute you. You have surpassed Alexander Mogilny in my mind as the most sensational player ever to don the red and black (or red and green) and I will miss ya when you get your DuckTales money from someone.


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Appreciate the your take but this team won the toughest division in the NHL and now they are 100% healthy. Being a devils fan you are inclined to be pessimistic, but as a neutral bettor I look at the stats and see a quality healthy team playing at home vs a lesser and banged up team. Have to take it

[Jiggy Fly]

Would Philly make the playoffs if these 2 guys were not on the roster? No, they would finish almost dead last in the east. You can say things like Philly will just "play tough D........."rise above".........."cowboy up"..........but Devils fans can also say "beat a suspect lineup"........."win a home game vs a battered team"............."out chance Philly 15-5 and win 3-1" So yes they can grind out a win, but it really is more like grind out a win and get really really lucky (unlikely). Devils will win this one.

OK......I feel you dude. I'm not trying to debate u man. Like I said earlier, I think the Devils win this one.

[TJ EasyStreet]

Appreciate the your take but this team won the toughest division in the NHL and now they are 100% healthy. Being a devils fan you are inclined to be pessimistic, but as a neutral bettor I look at the stats and see a quality healthy team playing at home vs a lesser and banged up team. Have to take it

The good news is if you are right, we are all happy! So, egg on my face would be very welcomed.

Fried, please.

[lakerboy]

Line hasnt moved-actually its moved in favor of philly a few cents. Good luck king kolzig.

[yisman]

the bigger picture is how the Devils traded several young players for Kovalchuk, who will leave after the season, and they will likely lose in the first round anyway.

However, I do agree that the Devils are the play at -170 or better. Do not pay for a higher line. If it does go up, like to -190 or -200, do not touch it.

"Get it before it goes to -225 or higher"

IMO, the line will not get above -200.

[yisman]

Pinnacle line movement:

MONEYLINES
04/21 13:54 +153 / -166
04/21 13:58 +150 / -163
04/21 13:59 +146 / -158

So it's dropped 8 cents from the opener.

[KingKolzig]

The good news is if you are right, we are all happy! So, egg on my face would be very welcomed.

Fried, please.

fried lol. that would be a first............but yeah this game is a gift for the devils. this team didnt suddenly become horrible, they lost a few close ones. if this series was 2-2 people wouldnt be so scared to lay a lot of juice on this. id take it all the way up to -200. maybe even -210. if it was an NBA team down 3-1 id be weary cause a lot of those guys are quitters. but its hockey, and the Devils none the less........yisman must be very frugal with his bets cause this is a near hockey-lock

[KingKolzig]

Pinnacle line movement:

MONEYLINES
04/21 13:54 +153 / -166
04/21 13:58 +150 / -163
04/21 13:59 +146 / -158

So it's dropped 8 cents from the opener.

strange lines. playing with people with these lines. it will shoot up by gametime for sure

reading a little on it and it looks like it could be broken bones for the both of them. you cant sprain a foot by getting smashed with a 100 mph slapper. i bet these guys are done for a few weeks. NJ might be pulling off another 3-1 comeback.

+3050 on thegreek to win the east. if i had money there id just bet that.

[yisman]

fried lol. that would be a first............but yeah this game is a gift for the devils. this team didnt suddenly become horrible, they lost a few close ones. if this series was 2-2 people wouldnt be so scared to lay a lot of juice on this. id take it all the way up to -200. maybe even -210. if it was an NBA team down 3-1 id be weary cause a lot of those guys are quitters. but its hockey, and the Devils none the less........yisman must be very frugal with his bets cause this is a near hockey-lock

My point is that I think there's less value on this than you think. If I thought this would hit -225 like you said, of course I'd say to jump all over it.

While the line will go higher, IMO, it won't be that significant.

I'd be willing to bet on the line movement, if you wish.

strange lines. playing with people with these lines. it will shoot up by gametime for sure

They're not playing with anyone right now. The day before, they float an opener out there and they see which way the money goes. I assure you, if people were all over the Devils, the line would be headed the other way. The early money is on Philly.


One point about this series: Game 4 swung on a completely blown call by the refs. It was a 1-1 tie, and they whistled Zajac for literally not doing anything. It was a few seconds after the faceoff, and Zajac didn't even get the chance to hit anyone or something.

Right after the call, Philly scored to take a 2-1 lead and never looked back.

[daroots21]

Wow, Gagne out and everything... They should get clobbered. Taking the over too, thanks!

[lakerboy]

Bottom line in this series is that NJ is getting outcoached badly by Laviolette- and i mean badly. Even Brodeur noted the flyers are "just different this time".

[yisman]

lakerboy, it's been all season, really.

Brodeur I guess is comparing to past playoff matchups with Philly, but New Jersey has just not matched up well with the Flyers this season.

It's a shame that even with the #2 seed, they drew probably the worst matchup for them. I'm sure they'd prefer Montreal (easily the weakest team in the East. They've only been in the series because they're facing notorious chokers), Boston, the Rangers (lost on a friggin' shootout which decided the final spot), or Ottawa.

[Andy117]

the bigger picture is how the Devils traded several young players for Kovalchuk, who will leave after the season, and they will likely lose in the first round anyway.

However, I do agree that the Devils are the play at -170 or better. Do not pay for a higher line. If it does go up, like to -190 or -200, do not touch it.

"Get it before it goes to -225 or higher"

IMO, the line will not get above -200.

I still like that trade for them. They took a shot, it didn't work but I'm ok with that.

[jjgold]

I would put 10,000 on Devils if I had money instead of a measly $300 which i will do

I say 3-1 Devils

[mikemca]

Sucked? 2 of 3 losses are by 1 goal. Philly is not the better team, no chance. If they played 20 games NJ would win 12. Just so happens that Philly won 2 close games, but with these 2 ALL-STARS (yes actual all-star forwards) out for game 5, and with no time to adjust for it Philly will lose this game. Nevermind Boucher is not exactly a Miller/Rask/Luongo goaltender who could outright steal a 2-1 game at anytime.............on a side note, Jersey comes back from 3-1 like every year

You realize they played half of that and only won 2.So the Devils would have 4 wins and 16 losses if they played 20.Regardless the Flyers are deeper than Carter and Gagne its actually Richards and Pronger who kill the Devils.All your posts sound like you are trying to convince yourself it is a lock.I do wish you Good Luck though cause I'm not touching this game.Just want to point out that you aren't aware of something the odds makers don't know.

[yisman]

You realize they played half of that and only won 2.So the Devils would have 4 wins and 16 losses if they played 20.

No. That's not how it works.

[Mini19]

With jj on the devils.. I'm going all in on the flyers

[whatsgood5]

Thanks for the info, was leaning towards Nj here but left it alone.

[mikemca]

No. That's not how it works.

I know sir.He was saying if they played 20 the devils would win 12 which is foolish considering they played 10 and won 2.So the Devils would have to win 10 straight to make prediction correct.Its OK though your a devils fan I guess and it must suck.

[docbarnes]

Nice information. Been looking at the hockey numbers and waiting to pull the trigger. Phantom betting so far and trying to gauge the teams.