Thoughts on Canada winning Gold

[terpkeg]

Gold Medal WinnerSun 2/21101 Canada wins Men's Hockey Gold+190 11:59PM 102 Field wins Men's Hockey Gold-230


Canada has not looked great and will have to defeat:
Germany/Russia/ then 2 of 5 USA, Slovaks, Czechs, Swedes of Fins

-230 seems like a gift, no?

[Nicky Santoro]

sweden, finland and russia much stronger than canada.

[vmchockey]

My thoughts. Fat chance

[DennisGreen]

It's a round robin game people, don't write off Canada because they lost a game they dominated due to bad bounces and shotty goaltending.

[SolidDala]

never write Canada off NEVER, feels like a SWE-CAN semifinals after CAN beat RUS in the Quarter where the winner gonna win the GOLD over USA, its their time for a final: Best team so far

[Wind gara]

russia will take them out

[Masu485]

it's obviously fixed. canada will win, it will be a magical win. all this country cares about is winning hockey gold at these olympics. they'd be happy to forfeit all other medals just to get thos gold one. it will be fixed, canada will win and it will be magic.

this isn't like the other sports where athletes train and prepare for 4 years just for this moment. these are athletes who have their own teams and make good money doing it. olympics is 2nd rate. so fixing the games wouldn't be like fixing the bobsleigh runs, where it would be totally unfair to the guys who waited for this moment for so long. the losers of the hockey matches will just shrug and go back to making goo dmoney with their original teams. the fix is definitely in. canada has been hyping this up for 4 years and will do anything to win this.

[Eleven]

Canada didnt look bad against the US, they still have a shot.

[jon13009]

lots of pressure on the canadiens....too tight to see a clear winner (the US loss was not a death blow)....think they can pull it out but wouldn't bet on it.

[Regul8er]

WOW....people are down on Canada pretty quick. Imagine we swap goalies last night, Canada wins probably 6-2. And if that happens, everyone would be hyping Canada up, unbelievable. The US got dominated in every aspect of the game, except goaltending. And as hockey fans know, a hot keeper can carry you a long way. The loss yesterday was good in two key ways:

1) Canada now knows not to play Brodeur again, and Luongo (the much better keepe) will play every minute from now on out.
If Brodeur sees any more time between the pipes, I will turn the game off, and not watch.
2) Another game is a positive in Canada's case, as it lets them work together for another 60 minutes, and become more comofrtable with each other.

[Jaug]

WOW....people are down on Canada pretty quick. Imagine we swap goalies last night, Canada wins probably 6-2. And if that happens, everyone would be hyping Canada up, unbelievable. The US got dominated in every aspect of the game, except goaltending. And as hockey fans know, a hot keeper can carry you a long way. The loss yesterday was good in two key ways:

1) Canada now knows not to play Brodeur again, and Luongo (the much better keepe) will play every minute from now on out.
If Brodeur sees any more time between the pipes, I will turn the game off, and not watch.
2) Another game is a positive in Canada's case, as it lets them work together for another 60 minutes, and become more comofrtable with each other.

Good post, good points. Only thing that worries me about Canada is the fact that they will now have to face Russia in an early stage.

[Panekkkk]

Exactly,

I'm glad the game vs. the U.S. exposed Brodeur for what he is and will give us an extra game to build chemistry. The only thing I worry about is Russia in the Quarters. Anything can happen in one game and we'll be on a back-2-back so fatigue might be a real factor.

[treece]

Broduer looked really out of place yesterday.

[Regul8er]

Good post, good points. Only thing that worries me about Canada is the fact that they will now have to face Russia in an early stage.

In order to win gold, Canada would have to beat Russia, Sweden, etc anyways, so not a big deal that its a few rounds earlier. It would have to be done regardless.

[MathewXB]

Ok it is simple as this we have never fixxed a hockey game at this level!!!!!! We had a bad bounce last night and I think u will be seeing an all new team Canada next game and we are still in it for the gold!


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[Retibol]

Russia-->Sweden-->Miller

Bad line Canada :[

Would be very impressed if they could do it.

[Regul8er]

Retibol..........Canada is the best hockey nation in the world. Why would you be surprised if we beat Russia, Sweden, USA (assuming they even get that far).

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

It's a round robin game people, don't write off Canada because they lost a game they dominated due to bad bounces and shotty goaltending.

sour grapes.

Canada did not "dominate" that hockey game.

that being said, Canada has an uphill climb, but I would not be shocked in the least to see a US/Canada gold medal rematch...

[odtw524]

sweden, finland and russia much stronger than canada.

I dont kno man i agree with sweden and finland....but russia has not impressed me in an of there games yet...I thing russia and canada have no chance its either going to be sweden, finland or USA

[KingKolzig]

5Dimes has canada +228 to win it. That is a very good take. USA got all the bounces in a game Canada didnt need to win. Canada was +110 to win it before this tournament with a good chance they would play Russia at some point. Now they know they will play Russia after a practice vs Germany. This line should be +160, +228 is such a good line. Just think about the games they have to win:

vs Germany -4500
vs Russia -165
vs Sweden -300
vs USA -300

I wish i had money in 5dimes i would be all over it

[Regul8er]

Me too KingKolzig.......incredible value for Canada. This thing should be getting hammered.

[KingKolzig]

Me too KingKolzig.......incredible value for Canada. This thing should be getting hammered.

ppl are way too wrapped up in the USA upset. they were absolutely peppered in that game. Russia will be scrambling in its zone so much i dont know if they can even stay in the game vs Canada. I like Canada in that game 4-2. That line could very well end up being aboout -200.......but that is their only real obstacle, after that it would take a major upset to stop them. Plus if and when they beat russia the lines for sweden and USA will be even higher cause ppl will be back on Canada again. The first game vs USA was -340 so maybe -350 for Sweden and USA again..........I would love to take Canada +228 and then if they made the final vs USA or whomever, then take USA +2 in the final and try to sneak in the double win

[terpkeg]

Wow, cant believe all the Canada love here. I would need well over +300 to take them now. At +300, you need them to take Gold 1/4 to break even. After watching the first 3 games, it would be hard to take them even with a favorable draw at those odds. But, having to go through:

Germany
Russia - B2B, Russia coming off the bye
Sweden/Slovakia - Most likely Sweden
US/Finland/Czech

One great goalkeeping performance and they are done. Damn, the barely got by the Swiss. And, they looked like shit against Norway until the third.

Of course they can win, but I do not think the odds are correctly set.

[jnickell100]

WOW....people are down on Canada pretty quick. Imagine we swap goalies last night, Canada wins probably 6-2. And if that happens, everyone would be hyping Canada up, unbelievable. The US got dominated in every aspect of the game, except goaltending. And as hockey fans know, a hot keeper can carry you a long way. The loss yesterday was good in two key ways: 1) Canada now knows not to play Brodeur again, and Luongo (the much better keepe) will play every minute from now on out. If Brodeur sees any more time between the pipes, I will turn the game off, and not watch. 2) Another game is a positive in Canada's case, as it lets them work together for another 60 minutes, and become more comofrtable with each other.

So what you are saying is that by taking out Brodeur would have given Canada 3 more goals offensively? Give me a break. Not to mention Brodeur had nothing to do with the Empty netter

[KingKolzig]

So what you are saying is that by taking out Brodeur would have given Canada 3 more goals offensively? Give me a break. Not to mention Brodeur had nothing to do with the Empty netter

what were the shots like 45-20. Canada totally controlled the game. Its big bob luongo from here on out and he is the best goaltender in the world. they will be a full goal favorite vs the 2nd best team in the tournament. If they win that game as -200 favorites, they will then be -225 to to win the gold. which they will

[Regul8er]

Jnickell......read the post before you throw your two cents in. "Imagine we swap goalies last night"

I didnt say Brodeur had anything to do with the empty netter. He gave up 3 softies.

[jnickell100]

what were the shots like 45-20. Canada totally controlled the game. Its big bob luongo from here on out and he is the best goaltender in the world. they will be a full goal favorite vs the 2nd best team in the tournament. If they win that game as -200 favorites, they will then be -225 to to win the gold. which they will

Not saying they didnt control the game, i watched the game too. But just because you outshot a team doesnt mean these shots are high percentage shots. Otherwise if shots really mattered all that much im sure teams would not dump the puck into the zone to setup offense, they would rather shoot from the blue line

[jnickell100]

Jnickell......read the post before you throw your two cents in. "Imagine we swap goalies last night"

I didnt say Brodeur had anything to do with the empty netter. He gave up 3 softies.

I did read the post chief and what you are saying is simply stupid. Imagine if USA had Crosby, Ovechkin and thornton......Ok imagine all you want because it will never happen.

[Regul8er]

It's not just that Canada had more shots against the US, I believe they had twice as many scoring opportunities. But that game is over and done with.

The best player in the history of the game says "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take". Yes, shots on goal are VERY important. Did you see Belarus' first goal yesterday on the Swiss. If that puck from outside the blue hadn't been put on net, they never would have scored. Play the game and understand the basic fundamentals before you try to break it down for us, ok?

[xraygord]

Gold for Canada.

[jnickell100]

It's not just that Canada had more shots against the US, I believe they had twice as many scoring opportunities. But that game is over and done with. The best player in the history of the game says "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take". Yes, shots on goal are VERY important. Did you see Belarus' first goal yesterday on the Swiss. If that puck from outside the blue hadn't been put on net, they never would have scored. Play the game and understand the basic fundamentals before you try to break it down for us, ok?

Listen, i understand what you are saying. I also, understand that you miss 100% of the shots you dont take. Yes, of course there will be a couple of goals scored on bad shots, that doesnt mean they should have been shot. Same thing in basketball, just because you shoot 50 times but they are from half court what exactly does this prove?

[Regul8er]

haha, are you really comparing half court shots in basketball to slappers from the blue line, bad angles, etc??? I've learned from my playing days that you need to pepper the goalie with shots and look for rebounds. Your taught at a young age to shoot the puck, there are just too many premadonnas in the NHL that try to make the spectacular play then to get a good solid shot on net. Sure Ovechkin and Crosby can pull these dramatic plays off from time to time, but with how good these defensemen are, your better off just letting one rip, unless of course your on a 2-1 and have a better chance to score by feeding your teammate.

[swiss88]

Hi Regul8er!
Well, nothing else to say except that I was all wrong on this one, easy win for your team... Looking at the other teams left in the tournaments, the bright side is that from now on I'll be rooting with you for Canada

[Regul8er]

Thanks swiss88.

The sleeping giant has awoken, and it all it took was a fluke loss to the Americans. If you were watching last night, you would have thought Canada was playing a high school team how they dominated in every aspect (skill, speed, physicality, passion).

My only worry is goaltending. Luongo did enough to win, but he still looked a little shaky in the process, looking behind him on a few occasions!

[tomcast]

I am in favor of gold for Canada