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max58SBR MVP
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#1Columbus Blue Jackets + 165Tags: None -
a4u2fearSBR Hall of Famer
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#2Why are you on them? Bad team on B2B with a very poor history at Phx losing by 2 or more, more often than notComment -
max58SBR MVP
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#3good point / BJ are 4-1 in their last 5 saturday games so at those odds im inComment -
a4u2fearSBR Hall of Famer
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#4
you tell me which stat is more relevant.Comment -
Rich BoySBR Hall of Famer
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max58SBR MVP
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#6good point again you do have a case / but its seem to be contradictingComment -
JonahHFalconSBR High Roller
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#7Neither. It makes me lol that people think these "trends" are even close to relevant in the NHL betting.Comment -
a4u2fearSBR Hall of Famer
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#8check out my thread and my PL record. head to head matchups provide very good insight into which side to take, much more than other meaningless trends like B2B or 3 in 4 nights.Comment -
JonahHFalconSBR High Roller
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#9
Just something to think about.Comment -
max58SBR MVP
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#10does histroy repeat itselfComment -
a4u2fearSBR Hall of Famer
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#11Previous games can be a factor in capping, I just don't really see the value in thinking games that happened last year has any outcome on on new games. This example...Phoenix going 5-1...is that a trend or standard deviation? I'll go with the latter.
Just something to think about.
you have a sample of games, say Buffalo Sabres last 100 games. The avg of the Sabres goals for is 2.5 in those 100 games and you find the standard deviation of their goals for is .75.
One standard deviation from the avg will give you a 68% confidence interval in where the data will fall. In this case, 68% of Buffalo's goals scored in that 100 games will fall in the range of (2.5-.75) and (2.5+.75), or 1.75 and 3.25 goals scored for.
Two standard deviations from the avg gives you a 95% confidence interval where the data will fall. Here, 95% of Buffalo's goals scored in the 100 games will fall in the range of (2.5 - 2*.75) and (2.5 + 2*.75) or 1 and 4.Comment -
JonahHFalconSBR High Roller
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#12Sorry deviation should say varianceComment -
max58SBR MVP
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#13would that be in favComment -
max58SBR MVP
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#15not alone goodComment -
a4u2fearSBR Hall of Famer
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#16Ok. This will be my last comment on this.
In their entire NHL history of Blue Jackets on road vs the Coyotes. Which would be 12 years worth of games and different players. The Coyotes have beaten the puck line 10/23 tries, or 43.5% rate.
I hit the puck line earlier at +165, which means I have a 5.8% edge if all things are equal.
If you want to talk variance, twelve years of differnt players and different style teams at different times of the year, all play in here.
If you look at the last 3-4 years, the numbers are even better for Phoenix.
Good luck all but I'm happily playing PHX -1.5Comment -
KpnSBR Wise Guy
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#17Is hockey a good statistical standard distribution? based on how erratic it can be, getting within 2 units of standard deviation would (I'm guessing) allow for a large variance to have the proper confidence interval.Comment -
max58SBR MVP
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#18what does that meanComment -
a4u2fearSBR Hall of Famer
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#19http://forum.sbrforum.com/hockey-betting/2178484-think-you-know-hockey-data-mining-hockey-facts.htmlSports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
Check that out just a bit to see how often things hit. I have plenty more just haven't uploaded them.
Trends in hockey are maybe more important than hitting a certain confidence interval because if you look at the goal totals set by Vegas, its almost always identical.
A huge myth in the NHL is that teams on back to backs fair poorly. Looking at the last 6 years of 6,000 games, I can tell you that is false.
Using confidence intervals to consistently beat the closing goal totals? Haven't figured that one out yet. But it may be worth looking into betting the (total+1 goal) or (total-1 goal), like betting over 6.5 or over 4.5 for a 5.5 game since you know those lines will be less accurate.Comment -
JonahHFalconSBR High Roller
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#20Ok. This will be my last comment on this.
In their entire NHL history of Blue Jackets on road vs the Coyotes. Which would be 12 years worth of games and different players. The Coyotes have beaten the puck line 10/23 tries, or 43.5% rate.
I hit the puck line earlier at +165, which means I have a 5.8% edge if all things are equal.
If you want to talk variance, twelve years of differnt players and different style teams at different times of the year, all play in here.
If you look at the last 3-4 years, the numbers are even better for Phoenix.
Good luck all but I'm happily playing PHX -1.5Comment -
a4u2fearSBR Hall of Famer
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#21I think we are a little off base here. I am not saying Phoenix is the wrong play, nor am I saying anything about your personal way of capping games (you are a winner, and you've done that on your own by taking and ignoring advice as it comes, you have to do what works for you). I'm simply saying I personally don't believe a lot of trends used to cap games are relevant in the slightest, and if they are relevant, 6 is definitely not a sufficient sample size to base it off of.
Good luck !Comment -
JonahHFalconSBR High Roller
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#22Correct, it's not the best sample size. But in this case it still holds over the entire existence of the team at another. Watching teams for many years, I've seen recent history play a large part in the outcome of the game. When the Sabres were one of the best teams in the league, they still lost consistently to the same shit teams. Similarly right now the Bruins are a dynamite team, but still have a lot of trouble with the Sabres who have been a fairly poor team lately. Some teams that play defensive or trap like styles give the Sabres and their coach fits (like NJ/Florida/Columbus etc).
Good luck !
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OmagaSBR Sharp
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#23Correct, it's not the best sample size. But in this case it still holds over the entire existence of the team at another. Watching teams for many years, I've seen recent history play a large part in the outcome of the game. When the Sabres were one of the best teams in the league, they still lost consistently to the same shit teams. Similarly right now the Bruins are a dynamite team, but still have a lot of trouble with the Sabres who have been a fairly poor team lately. Some teams that play defensive or trap like styles give the Sabres and their coach fits (like NJ/Florida/Columbus etc).
Good luck !
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Dam bro...you know NHL
I've check out some of your threads
http://forum.sbrforum.com/hockey-betting/2178484-think-you-know-hockey-data-mining-hockey-facts.htmlSports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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Rich BoySBR Hall of Famer
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#25Line closed at +190 at Pinny
+165 is a terrible priceComment -
max58SBR MVP
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#27with all this said do have a shot to winComment -
Rich BoySBR Hall of Famer
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#28Blue Jackets manage to win a period. Will see if they can finish this game. I doubt it.
I snagged them at +190 @ Bodog right before the game startedComment
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