Probability help - maybe not even possible

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  • Squirrel
    SBR MVP
    • 06-11-09
    • 1316

    #1
    Probability help - maybe not even possible
    Evening all, got a random query which I don't know if its even possible to solve. I'm not great at explaining so bear with me and i'll do my best (These examples aint what I want to solve this for but i'll explain in sports terms to make it clearer.

    If I have a 2 game MLB series, Team A v Team B, and I have an expected Win% for each team as:

    Game 1 - Team A 60%, Team B 40%
    Game 2 - Team A 25%, Team B 75%

    Knowing this information I can obviously work out all the probabilities in terms of the series outcome:

    Team A wins both games = .6*.25 = 15%
    Team A wins 1 game = (.6*.75) + (.4*.25) = 55%
    Team A wins no games = .4*.75 = 30%

    So technically I could estimate fair prices based on Team A winning 0,1 or 2 games.

    Thats the simple stuff, what I want is to do though is the same but on a massive scale, using NFL for example, if I had each games estimated winning percentages (estimated, expected, guessed, whatever) how could I work out the chance of the team winning 1,2,3,4,5....14,15,16 games etc etc

    I know using the NFL example there are 65536 different combinations of results and technically I could sit here and calculate them all, but that would be a total ballache if i'm honest and i'm hoping there may be a quick way around it, can anyone help?

    I used the NFL as an example because thats a 16 game season and its close to the number I actually want.

    Can anyone think of any quick way around this before I sit and smash 65k combinations of numbers in excel?

    Cheers guys and I hope I got my point across ok

    (I tried various forum and google searches and to be honest I didnt even really know where to start )
  • mathdotcom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-08
    • 11689

    #2
    Justin7 gave an example of how to do it in Excel using a 16x16 matrix.

    He then got into a heated discussion with the vaunted Monkeyf0cker who provided a faster and more accurate approach.

    It should not be too difficult to find the thread.
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    • thom321
      SBR High Roller
      • 06-17-11
      • 112

      #3
      This might be the thread in question or at least refer to it in the first post by Monkey

      Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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      • TomG
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-29-07
        • 500

        #4
        there are two ways either calculate the solution analytically using all of the possible combinations or monte carlo it up
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        • Squirrel
          SBR MVP
          • 06-11-09
          • 1316

          #5
          Cheers for the responses guys, will check the above thread and do more research - at least I know it's possible
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