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  • zip
    Restricted User
    • 01-08-12
    • 6

    #1
    Automated Betting
    Hello,

    I'm interested in building an automated betting script for a major bookie. i wanted to ask if any1 has experience with doing this. has any1 here been found out, and what gave the game away?

    apart from the obvious timing or repetition problems, what things should i be considering. is there anything specific that could give the game away.

    thanks
  • HUY
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-29-09
    • 253

    #2
    I don't think U will succeed in ur endavour l33tspe4k phriend.
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    • zip
      Restricted User
      • 01-08-12
      • 6

      #3
      can't send PMs yet.
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      • subs
        SBR MVP
        • 04-30-10
        • 1412

        #4
        OK, i'm interested as well. does any1 here have/ build these?
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        • HUY
          SBR Sharp
          • 04-29-09
          • 253

          #5
          Originally posted by subs
          OK, i'm interested as well. does any1 here have/ build these?
          I think there's only value in doing that only for certain bookies, those that offer an API for this exact reason. Otherwise you will spend a lot of time coding one only to have it stop working every time the website changes (i.e. every other week).
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          • jgilmartin
            SBR MVP
            • 03-31-09
            • 1119

            #6
            Take a look at the source code to their mobile site, if they have one. Probably going to be simpler than the main site. This will be very challenging, though. Presumably you are going to be doing something like scraping off an odds site and then having your bot bet when certain criteria are met vs. another book/books' line? It would be quite tricky to identify which matchup is which, unless both the odds site and the sportsbook site use standard rotation numbers or some sort of other common identifier.
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            • FreeFall
              SBR MVP
              • 02-20-08
              • 3365

              #7
              yes and you can ask me more specific questions by PM.

              For the record I'm not really interested in someone who writes anyone as any1. I'm also not interseted in doing your work for you.
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              • Pot luck
                SBR Rookie
                • 05-05-11
                • 40

                #8
                Originally posted by jgilmartin
                It would be quite tricky to identify which matchup is which, unless both the odds site and the sportsbook site use standard rotation numbers or some sort of other common identifier.
                Some odds comparison sites have betslip links with various books. I would grab those links, load the page then run some validation to check that it is the correct matchup.
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                • prph
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 07-31-12
                  • 3

                  #9
                  To build automated betting site, you have to process data from several bookmakers. They provides XML data. The problem is that data from bookmakers are really different, i.e "QPR - Chelsea" in one booky and "Queens Park Rangers - Chelsea" from another. Also odds data are different. Your system must be able to "match" this events, bets and odds. I was reading about this some time ago, but I gave up This looks to hard for me.

                  Did you try to find ready-made solution in google?
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                  • muffins
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-03-12
                    • 145

                    #10
                    check out automatic exchange betting - colin magee, lot of good stuff from my brief viewing.

                    technical issues aside with automated betting, if you're using it to pick off surebets, stale prices etc then you will run in to the same problem as if you do it manually, restrictions and closure.
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                    • jgilmartin
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-31-09
                      • 1119

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Pot luck
                      Some odds comparison sites have betslip links with various books. I would grab those links, load the page then run some validation to check that it is the correct matchup.
                      Good idea; hadn't considered that.
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                      • prph
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 07-31-12
                        • 3

                        #12
                        This is not a solution. First of all, administrators can reject your connections if they detect your script. The second - if something changes on the website, your script will fetch wrong data. And the third - this is stealing

                        Google: "sports betting cms"
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                        • Pot luck
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 05-05-11
                          • 40

                          #13
                          Originally posted by prph
                          This is not a solution. First of all, administrators can reject your connections if they detect your script. The second - if something changes on the website, your script will fetch wrong data. And the third - this is stealing

                          Google: "sports betting cms"
                          This is the second time you have recomended using google and you have made two posts on this forum. Just saying.

                          There is no legitimate way to do automated betting ( except on exchanges like betfair), terms and conditions often explicitly forbid it. But don't let that put you off. Bookies are cowboys.
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                          • prph
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 07-31-12
                            • 3

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pot luck
                            This is the second time you have recomended using google and you have made two posts on this forum. Just saying.
                            Because, there are answers. Search 'build betting script' and you will find a lot of inquiries on pages like Freelancer, where you can read "build using XML feeds provided by bookmakers". Also list of feeds is included so you can compare how much different they are.
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                            • Pot luck
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 05-05-11
                              • 40

                              #15
                              No doubt there are some answers out there 'on the internet' but can't you be a bit more specific than "google x, y or z". Summarize what you have gleaned perhaps.
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                              • Justin7
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-31-06
                                • 8577

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Pot luck
                                There is no legitimate way to do automated betting ( except on exchanges like betfair), terms and conditions often explicitly forbid it. But don't let that put you off. Bookies are cowboys.
                                The bigger players have automated betting, and it is both undetectable and fool-proof.
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                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-12-07
                                  • 12144

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Pot luck
                                  No doubt there are some answers out there 'on the internet' but can't you be a bit more specific than "google x, y or z". Summarize what you have gleaned perhaps.
                                  It's pretty straightforward. If you can scrape, you can automate. It's simply a matter of either manipulating the DOM or posting a form.
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                                  • arwar
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-09-09
                                    • 208

                                    #18
                                    i have probably had 50 requests from newbies who, for whatever reason, think that an automated betting system is the holy grail. first off it has nothing to do with APIs or RSS feeds. if one were to do it, it is like MF said and you need to use the DOM to populate the necessary fileds, team, play, wager amt, etc and then the verification fields- password- or whatever they use. i have coded some apps that automatically show 4-5 different books and lines screens - all without keyboard intrevention, but then the player makes actual wagers. this cuts down on login time etc. and facilitates getting the action down before the closing bell.
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