This is my first time posting in thinktank, I have a question are any of the handicapping programs that you dont have to build yourself anygood, any of the ones that you can buy as a package, I am not super computer savvy but I would like to get something? Any thoughts I would appreciate you guys in this thread seem to know what your talking about. Thanks.
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HurlsSBR MVP
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AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#2I am trying to build my own program right now, and I did some looking for any open-source material before I started and came up empty.Comment -
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#3No one is going to do all the hard work for free...Comment -
HurlsSBR MVP
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#4Originally posted by FreeFallNo one is going to do all the hard work for free...Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#5How much are you willing to spend?Comment -
HurlsSBR MVP
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#6i will check out, thanks for inputComment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#7Count me in, for the bidding wars on developing this guy whatever computer program he wantsComment -
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#8Originally posted by Hurlsi dont want it done for free I want to pay for it obviously...
Then why not just ask for the picks?Comment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#9Originally posted by FreeFallThen why not just ask for the picks?Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#10Originally posted by AngryPlanetsI can't speak for OP, but for me, I am a Math and computer guy and thought it would be an interesting data and algorithmic challenge.Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#11All Hail Monkey. Ruler of the Think Tank With an iron Fist!!!Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#12Just wondering. Seems a bit of a contradiction. Does it not?Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#13Certainly so. Monkey. Ne and you should be the resident coders. We cam he a travelling road shoeComment -
HurlsSBR MVP
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#14i think everyone got this question wrong or I asked it wrong, I dont want someone to build one for me, I wanted to know if there was a program out there for sale on the market that deals with trends and information that is a good one, so I can use to add with the factors that I use so that it doesnt take forever to do it all something to make capping easier for me. I am not a pro gambler by any means but as a hobby I like to try to cap my own games so anything that can help me get better I would like to try. thanksComment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#15Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerJust wondering. Seems a bit of a contradiction. Does it not?Comment -
mathdotcomSBR Posting Legend
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#16Take the Bucks +6 again tomorrowComment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#17Originally posted by samserifNope. If someone built a framework I can use and adapt, I'd jump on it. Even if I didn't reuse the code, I'd look for design ideas, mainly in data modeling and data management.Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#18Yup. Spoken like a true coder.Comment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#19Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerEh? How hard is it to data model sports statistics?
Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerBy the time you sifted through the other person's code and adapted it to your data, you could have coded it yourself three times over by scratch.Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#20It depends on how complex the code is. The design patterns used. And how good the programmer(s) were that developed the code.
It is better to understand what you are writing, and write it yourself. Unless you can actually talk to the programmers, then the other code is usefulComment -
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#21Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerThen why are you looking for open source code?Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#22Whose ghost are you anyhows?Comment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#23Originally posted by AngryPlanetsTrust me, I don't need to explain myself to you, but it is not a contradiction to know what already exists before you start a project.Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#24Originally posted by samserifSo you're saying that you're not into reinventing wheels, right?Comment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#25Originally posted by samserifSo you're saying that you're not into reinventing wheels, right?
I also build my own guitars. That doesn't mean that guitars don't already exist, or that I don't know what existing guitar manufacturers provide. I do it because it is fun and because I can make exactly what I want.
I also brew my own beer. That's doesn't mean that beers aren't readily available where I leave, or that I don't know what other brewers provide to the marketplace. I do it because it is interesting and I can make exactly what I want.Comment -
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#26Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerVery hard to build a wheel without a diagram. One might even call it a "challenge."Comment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#27What I meant was that many coders (as opposed to software engineers) jump into something without caring whether it's been done before, just because coding is fun, and seeing what's out there takes me away from coding!
I'm always interested in knowing whether something I want already exists. What's out there may not be exactly what I want, but it's often useful to ask, "Why was it built this way? Why was this feature omitted/included? How's the data organized and represented, and any clues as to why? Any cool ideas I can pilfer?" Sometimes I don't learn anything, other times I learn a lot.Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#28Originally posted by AngryPlanetsOnly for you would it be very hard to build a wheel without a diagram. That says a lot about you.
Wait. Who was looking for diagrams again?Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#29Originally posted by samserifWhat I mean was that many coders (as opposed to software engineers) jump into something without caring whether it's been done before, just because coding is fun, and seeing what's out there takes me away from coding!
I'm always interested in knowing whether something I want already exists. What's out there may not be exactly what I want, but it's often useful to ask, "Why was it built this way? Why was this feature omitted/included? How's the data organized and represented, and any clues as to why? Any cool ideas I can pilfer?" Sometimes I don't learn anything, other times I learn a lot.Comment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#30Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerExactly.
Wait. Who was looking for diagrams again?Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#31Whose ghost are you? You've had six lifetime post, all in the think tank, all in this thread. The People want answers.Comment -
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#32If all you want to do is code, use Elo scoring, works as well as anything else. All you need are wins and losses so harder to screw up.Comment -
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#33Mathdotcom.....right about the Bucks, again. Go figure.
Maverick....have you ever been paid to write a program for somebody, how much would one charge?
Mods....not looking to buy anything or sell anything, just asking, for the record.Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#34If you don't count my job as a software developer, I got paid to write programs in college for under achieving studentsThe price really depends on a gillion factors. Including but not limited to scope, timeline, complexity, how efficient of code desired.
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AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#35Originally posted by Maverick22Whose ghost are you? You've had six lifetime post, all in the think tank, all in this thread. The People want answers.
I probably wouldn't have ever posted, but I had some knowledge that I thought would help OP. I didn't realize that I was going to get drawn into arguments this quickly.I originally considered posting detailed information about my project and its predictions in hopes of maybe making it a collaborative effort, but now I see that's not how this place works
The reason all my posts are in the think tank is because that is the only part of this board that interests me at this moment. I don't even check out the other forums, but might in the future.
Hope this helps!Comment
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