This is my first time posting in thinktank, I have a question are any of the handicapping programs that you dont have to build yourself anygood, any of the ones that you can buy as a package, I am not super computer savvy but I would like to get something? Any thoughts I would appreciate you guys in this thread seem to know what your talking about. Thanks.
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HurlsSBR MVP
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AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#2I am trying to build my own program right now, and I did some looking for any open-source material before I started and came up empty.Comment -
FreeFallSBR MVP
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#3No one is going to do all the hard work for free...Comment -
HurlsSBR MVP
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#4i dont want it done for free I want to pay for it obviously...Originally posted by FreeFallNo one is going to do all the hard work for free...Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#5How much are you willing to spend?Comment -
HurlsSBR MVP
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#6i will check out, thanks for inputComment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#7Count me in, for the bidding wars on developing this guy whatever computer program he wants
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FreeFallSBR MVP
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#8Originally posted by Hurlsi dont want it done for free I want to pay for it obviously...
Then why not just ask for the picks?Comment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#9I can't speak for OP, but for me, I am a Math and computer guy and thought it would be an interesting data and algorithmic challenge.Originally posted by FreeFallThen why not just ask for the picks?Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#10Then why are you looking for open source code?Originally posted by AngryPlanetsI can't speak for OP, but for me, I am a Math and computer guy and thought it would be an interesting data and algorithmic challenge.
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Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#11All Hail Monkey. Ruler of the Think Tank With an iron Fist!!!Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#12Just wondering. Seems a bit of a contradiction. Does it not?Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#13Certainly so. Monkey. Ne and you should be the resident coders. We cam he a travelling road shoeComment -
HurlsSBR MVP
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#14i think everyone got this question wrong or I asked it wrong, I dont want someone to build one for me, I wanted to know if there was a program out there for sale on the market that deals with trends and information that is a good one, so I can use to add with the factors that I use so that it doesnt take forever to do it all something to make capping easier for me. I am not a pro gambler by any means but as a hobby I like to try to cap my own games so anything that can help me get better I would like to try. thanksComment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#15Nope. If someone built a framework I can use and adapt, I'd jump on it. Even if I didn't reuse the code, I'd look for design ideas, mainly in data modeling and data management.Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerJust wondering. Seems a bit of a contradiction. Does it not?Comment -
mathdotcomSBR Posting Legend
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#16Take the Bucks +6 again tomorrowComment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#17Eh? How hard is it to data model sports statistics? By the time you sifted through the other person's code and adapted it to your data, you could have coded it yourself three times over by scratch.Originally posted by samserifNope. If someone built a framework I can use and adapt, I'd jump on it. Even if I didn't reuse the code, I'd look for design ideas, mainly in data modeling and data management.Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#18Yup. Spoken like a true coder.Comment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#19Modeling statistics is simple. Modeling data, often not so simple.Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerEh? How hard is it to data model sports statistics?
Depends on the code, doesn't it? Who knows, maybe I'll learn something from it.Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerBy the time you sifted through the other person's code and adapted it to your data, you could have coded it yourself three times over by scratch.Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#20It depends on how complex the code is. The design patterns used. And how good the programmer(s) were that developed the code.
It is better to understand what you are writing, and write it yourself. Unless you can actually talk to the programmers, then the other code is usefulComment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#21Trust me, I don't need to explain myself to you, but it is not a contradiction to know what already exists before you start a project.Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerThen why are you looking for open source code?
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Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#22Whose ghost are you anyhows?Comment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#23So you're saying that you're not into reinventing wheels, right?Originally posted by AngryPlanetsTrust me, I don't need to explain myself to you, but it is not a contradiction to know what already exists before you start a project.Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#24Very hard to build a wheel without a diagram. One might even call it a "challenge."Originally posted by samserifSo you're saying that you're not into reinventing wheels, right?Comment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#25I'm not sure what you are asking, but reinventing wheels is probably the wrong analogy.Originally posted by samserifSo you're saying that you're not into reinventing wheels, right?
I also build my own guitars. That doesn't mean that guitars don't already exist, or that I don't know what existing guitar manufacturers provide. I do it because it is fun and because I can make exactly what I want.
I also brew my own beer. That's doesn't mean that beers aren't readily available where I leave, or that I don't know what other brewers provide to the marketplace. I do it because it is interesting and I can make exactly what I want.Comment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#26Only for you would it be very hard to build a wheel without a diagram. That says a lot about you.Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerVery hard to build a wheel without a diagram. One might even call it a "challenge."Comment -
samserifSBR Hustler
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#27What I meant was that many coders (as opposed to software engineers) jump into something without caring whether it's been done before, just because coding is fun, and seeing what's out there takes me away from coding!
I'm always interested in knowing whether something I want already exists. What's out there may not be exactly what I want, but it's often useful to ask, "Why was it built this way? Why was this feature omitted/included? How's the data organized and represented, and any clues as to why? Any cool ideas I can pilfer?" Sometimes I don't learn anything, other times I learn a lot.Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#28Exactly.Originally posted by AngryPlanetsOnly for you would it be very hard to build a wheel without a diagram. That says a lot about you.
Wait. Who was looking for diagrams again?Comment -
MonkeyF0ckerSBR Posting Legend
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#29Then again, maybe they're experienced coders and don't care what another person did since they are perfectly capable of designing efficient algorithms and profiling their own code. Trying to sort through another person's code is nearly always more of a headache than it's worth.Originally posted by samserifWhat I mean was that many coders (as opposed to software engineers) jump into something without caring whether it's been done before, just because coding is fun, and seeing what's out there takes me away from coding!
I'm always interested in knowing whether something I want already exists. What's out there may not be exactly what I want, but it's often useful to ask, "Why was it built this way? Why was this feature omitted/included? How's the data organized and represented, and any clues as to why? Any cool ideas I can pilfer?" Sometimes I don't learn anything, other times I learn a lot.Comment -
AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#30(*bilnk*) I have no idea what you are talking about. Is this some sort of inside joke on this board? I have never once mentioned diagrams.Originally posted by MonkeyF0ckerExactly.
Wait. Who was looking for diagrams again?Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#31Whose ghost are you? You've had six lifetime post, all in the think tank, all in this thread. The People want answers.Comment -
WrecktangleSBR MVP
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#32If all you want to do is code, use Elo scoring, works as well as anything else. All you need are wins and losses so harder to screw up.Comment -
Professor1215SBR High Roller
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#33Mathdotcom.....right about the Bucks, again. Go figure.
Maverick....have you ever been paid to write a program for somebody, how much would one charge?
Mods....not looking to buy anything or sell anything, just asking, for the record.Comment -
Maverick22SBR Wise Guy
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#34If you don't count my job as a software developer, I got paid to write programs in college for under achieving students
The price really depends on a gillion factors. Including but not limited to scope, timeline, complexity, how efficient of code desired.
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AngryPlanetsSBR Rookie
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#35I'm not a ghost account. I actually started lurking at the start of football season, and signed up at the start of basketball season so I could look at the spreadsheet everyone talked about and possibly use it to track the progress of my program's output.Originally posted by Maverick22Whose ghost are you? You've had six lifetime post, all in the think tank, all in this thread. The People want answers.
I probably wouldn't have ever posted, but I had some knowledge that I thought would help OP. I didn't realize that I was going to get drawn into arguments this quickly.
I originally considered posting detailed information about my project and its predictions in hopes of maybe making it a collaborative effort, but now I see that's not how this place works 
The reason all my posts are in the think tank is because that is the only part of this board that interests me at this moment. I don't even check out the other forums, but might in the future.
Hope this helps!Comment
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