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  • eyeball
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-14-07
    • 988

    #1
    Anyone ever use Fox sheets?
    Has anyone used them to aid their handicapping?


    I was wondering if their info was worth it?
  • Pokerjoe
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-17-09
    • 704

    #2
    I've looked at it. Saw nothing but data mined systems and angles. Lots of them. Enough that, after every game, they can say "Look, this one worked. That one, too."

    Oh, and lots of vanilla stats. Not that I think there are any chocolate ones in football.
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    • I/O
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-26-11
      • 7922

      #3
      No

      Statfox uses the "data mining" info to get you in the door. They don't update any of it very well. Many times the info based on the same topic contradicts itself. They just want to get you to spend on other products.
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      • jgilmartin
        SBR MVP
        • 03-31-09
        • 1119

        #4
        Originally posted by Pokerjoe
        nothing but data mined systems and angles
        This.
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        • CHUBNUT
          SBR Sharp
          • 06-30-09
          • 321

          #5
          In life's long struggle with beating the books you have to try everything and see how it lies within your perception of success, very simular to having sex really. Where the proof is in the eating of the pudding according to folklore, the reality is nothing else matters ( as metalica would say) but profitability or more in line with reality, a hobby costing very little loss.
          I've said this on other posts, the step up to earning a living at this nonsense is huge and certainly not good for the rest of your existance. It does make me sad when I read of people in awe of betting prowess, if only you knew the lonely life it leads.
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          • Dark Horse
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-14-05
            • 13764

            #6
            nm.
            Last edited by Dark Horse; 09-13-11, 06:03 PM.
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            • I/O
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-26-11
              • 7922

              #7
              Originally posted by CHUBNUT
              In life's long struggle with beating the books you have to try everything and see how it lies within your perception of success, very simular to having sex really. Where the proof is in the eating of the pudding according to folklore, the reality is nothing else matters ( as metalica would say) but profitability or more in line with reality, a hobby costing very little loss.
              I've said this on other posts, the step up to earning a living at this nonsense is huge and certainly not good for the rest of your existance. It does make me sad when I read of people in awe of betting prowess, if only you knew the lonely life it leads.


              I'll have whatever he's having
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              • eyeball
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 08-14-07
                • 988

                #8
                Originally posted by I/O


                I'll have whatever he's having

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                • Leo Bello
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-23-11
                  • 267

                  #9
                  Originally posted by I/O


                  I'll have whatever he's having
                  This is one of the most truthful and insightful statements I have ever read, written by an obviously experienced man who has wondered through the murky world many of us function in. A glamorous world that is only viewed that way by the uninitiated and naive. Machiavelli wrote it best when he said, "Gamblers have no honor. They don't care how they win!
                  Last edited by Leo Bello; 09-26-11, 02:33 AM. Reason: Misspelling
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                  • Pokerjoe
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 04-17-09
                    • 704

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Leo Bello
                    This is one of the most truthful and insightful statements I have ever read, written by an obviously experienced man who has wondered through the murky world many of us function in. A glamorous world that is only viewed that way by the uninitiated and naive. Machiavelli wrote it best when he said, "Gamblers have no honor. They don't care how they win!
                    Chubnut^2.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Useless data-mined garbage
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                      • willieteal
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 11-23-10
                        • 91

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CHUBNUT
                        In life's long struggle with beating the books you have to try everything and see how it lies within your perception of success, very simular to having sex really. Where the proof is in the eating of the pudding according to folklore, the reality is nothing else matters ( as metalica would say) but profitability or more in line with reality, a hobby costing very little loss.
                        I've said this on other posts, the step up to earning a living at this nonsense is huge and certainly not good for the rest of your existance. It does make me sad when I read of people in awe of betting prowess, if only you knew the lonely life it leads.
                        Have you ever seen the movie California Split?
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                        • ferndog
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-22-07
                          • 1386

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Useless data-mined garbage
                          Are you serious? Man the FS have made me a ton. If these are garbage then i really want to know what is considered good.
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                          • Formulawiz
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-12-09
                            • 1589

                            #14
                            I have found several errors at times with StatsFox, you need to compare their stats with other sites providing this.
                            I use software for college and pro football to create just about any trend or situation and gives me a win/loss breakdown both SU and ATS.
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                            • Wrecktangle
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-01-09
                              • 1524

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Formulawiz
                              I have found several errors at times with StatsFox, you need to compare their stats with other sites providing this.
                              I use software for college and pro football to create just about any trend or situation and gives me a win/loss breakdown both SU and ATS.
                              Good point by formula. When I found the first error, started wondering, on the second, dropped sub, on the 3rd, built my own db.

                              Do your own work, make your own errors.
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                              • leetreaper
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 10-23-10
                                • 34841

                                #16
                                theres no substitution for foxsheets, best handicapping service available on the net
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                                • Dakota
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 12-06-05
                                  • 237

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ferndog
                                  Are you serious? Man the FS have made me a ton. If these are garbage then i really want to know what is considered good.
                                  what would u say is the best way to use them in Football? i have had FS before but was never able to make any consistent money with them. AApreciate ur help>>thanks
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                                  • scratbandit
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-07-09
                                    • 548

                                    #18
                                    I have not had much luck with them myself..
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                                    • I/O
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-26-11
                                      • 7922

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                      I have found several errors at times with StatsFox, you need to compare their stats with other sites providing this.
                                      I use software for college and pro football to create just about any trend or situation and gives me a win/loss breakdown both SU and ATS.
                                      Many times, the info provided in two separate parts of the sheets on the same trend or topic completely condradicts each other. The more one uses them, the more errors one will come across.

                                      And said worthless info is many times not adjusted to line changes, player changes, changes in the conditions, etc.
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                                      • ferndog
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-22-07
                                        • 1386

                                        #20
                                        had to edit
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                                        • ferndog
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-22-07
                                          • 1386

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Dakota
                                          what would u say is the best way to use them in Football? i have had FS before but was never able to make any consistent money with them. AApreciate ur help>>thanks
                                          On the FS read the strategies and on the website look at knowledge and support. Some of the better cappers at the SF forum will post some good trends for certain games from the FS that can help.
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                                          • MysteryMung
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 02-11-11
                                            • 670

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by I/O
                                            Many times, the info provided in two separate parts of the sheets on the same trend or topic completely condradicts each other. The more one uses them, the more errors one will come across.

                                            And said worthless info is many times not adjusted to line changes, player changes, changes in the conditions, etc.
                                            This is absolutely the problem I face. I can make a case for either team almost all the time with the stats provided. Data-mined
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                                            • Thunders77
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-17-11
                                              • 340

                                              #23
                                              I don't like it for Selections, but as a pretty comprehensive Stat Tool.
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