At what rate do +200 dogs in MLB hit?

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  • BuddyBear
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 7233

    #1
    At what rate do +200 dogs in MLB hit?
    Anyone know off hand these numbers? Or any breakdown by say +200 - +220, +221 - +240, etc... Thanks...
  • accuscoresucks
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-03-07
    • 7160

    #2
    this would be intresting

    i know accuscore.com has it but i never renewed their service
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    • pico
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-05-07
      • 27321

      #3
      my estimate is 30%. blindly betting +200 and you'll lose in the long run.
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      • Ganchrow
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-28-05
        • 5011

        #4
        Originally posted by BuddyBear
        Anyone know off hand these numbers? Anyone know off hand these numbers? Or any breakdown by say +200 - +220, +221 - +240, etc... Thanks...
        FWIW, from the 1999 season through May 20th, 2008 and using Covers.com data:
        Dogs of +200 to +220 (N=941):
        Win rate: 32.62%
        Std. Err.: 1.53%
        flat bet ROI: +0.68%
        Std Err of ROI: 4.72%

        Dogs of +221 to +240 (N=323):
        Win rate: 30.34%
        Std. Err.: 2.56%
        flat bet ROI: +0.93%
        Std Err of ROI: 8.52%

        Dogs of +241 to +300 (N=362):
        Win rate: 26.80%
        Std. Err.: 2.33%
        flat bet ROI: -1.20%
        Std Err of ROI: 8.56%

        Dogs of +301+ (N=83):
        Win rate: 25.30%
        Std. Err.: 4.77%
        flat bet ROI: +9.04%
        Std Err of ROI: 20.66%

        All Dogs of +200+ (N=2,083):
        Win rate: 30.56%
        Std. Err.: 1.02%
        flat bet ROI: +0.77%
        Std Err of ROI: 4.72%
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        • dwaechte
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-27-07
          • 5481

          #5
          Wow. Pretty solid results.
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          • Munson15
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-24-07
            • 218

            #6
            Playing all +200 or better would be much better than playing all faves -200 or worse, I'm pretty sure of that. Thanks for the figures, Ganch.
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82847

              #7
              Old Chinese Proverb:

              "It does not matter at what rate +200 dogs hit. What matters is at what rate you are hitting them."

              Confucius 501 BC
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              • SBR Lou
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-02-07
                • 37863

                #8
                Originally posted by accuscoresucks
                this would be intresting

                i know accuscore.com has it but i never renewed their service
                Judging your posting handle, I can't understand why.
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                • staf
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-11-07
                  • 2521

                  #9
                  This bring up the question:
                  If 44% of dogs win, then how would we do flat betting all dogs of +130 or better?
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                  • Peep
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-23-08
                    • 2295

                    #10
                    Originally posted by staf
                    This bring up the question:
                    If 44% of dogs win, then how would we do flat betting all dogs of +130 or better?
                    First off, I am no Ganchrow.

                    He can do stuff I can't even dream off.

                    But I do have a database with 3742 home dogs in it and 11240 road dogs, all at odds of +130 or better.

                    The HD won about 40% of their games (1483/3742), at at average price of approximately +154.

                    I have the road dogs winning 38% or their games (4323/11240) at an average price of +161.

                    I am just getting back into gambling, and am learning access 2007. I like it, can do things I didn't know how to do on my old 2000......
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                    • xyz
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-14-08
                      • 521

                      #11
                      Originally posted by staf
                      This bring up the question:
                      If 44% of dogs win, then how would we do flat betting all dogs of +130 or better?
                      You will always make money in this case. The average odds for all dogs of +130 or better has to be greater or equal to +130. Assume the average is +130, then we have

                      130*44% - 100*56% = 1.2

                      So for every $100 you wager, you expect to make $1.2 or more, since the average odd is likely to be greater than 130.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        The problem is that the bulk of the 44% winning dogs are less than +130. As Peep pointed out above, all dogs of +130 or better win about 38% of the time, which is a losing proposition if bet blindly.
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                        • harsh506
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-24-07
                          • 489

                          #13
                          ill take the +200's at 30% for the shortrun... baseball these days are seeing more teams play better. If the Rangers played the Red Sox at fenway and the line was at +210 for the rangers, ide take the shot on it.
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                          • steelerfan
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 09-22-05
                            • 64

                            #14
                            they always hit when you didn't bet them and rarely when you do
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