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my current system is best described by this formula for SP
(ip)*3+k's-H-BB/GP
15=best
13-14=average
12=worst
Wheell
SBR MVP
01-11-07
1380
#2
So you are using a dips based system for evaluating pitchers. I prefer a park effect based OPS allowed relative to OPS faced. To each his own.
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rake922
SBR Posting Legend
12-23-07
11692
#3
Originally posted by Wheell
So you are using a dips based system for evaluating pitchers. I prefer a park effect based OPS allowed relative to OPS faced. To each his own.
hows that working out for you
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Wheell
SBR MVP
01-11-07
1380
#4
51-37 for 10.58 units. Went 0-7 today.
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youngsc
Restricted User
06-10-08
212
#5
if you don't mind telling, where did you come up with the formula you listed above? Just curious as I'm trying to develop my own system and am intrested as you are to know what others are doing. TIA
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#6
Originally posted by Wheell
So you are using a dips based system for evaluating pitchers. I prefer a park effect based OPS allowed relative to OPS faced. To each his own.
I'm not sure if you could find it but ever consider using GPA instead of OPS?
"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
"Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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Wheell
SBR MVP
01-11-07
1380
#7
Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
I'm not sure if you could find it but ever consider using GPA instead of OPS?
Not all of these guys went to college.
Also, I can't find any sabermetric system that allows me to deal with historical anomolies like Tom Glavine.
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#8
Originally posted by Wheell
Not all of these guys went to college.
Also, I can't find any sabermetric system that allows me to deal with historical anomolies like Tom Glavine.
I'm going to assume you know what I meant and move along, avoiding making a fool of myself
"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
"Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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Wheell
SBR MVP
01-11-07
1380
#9
I know what you meant, and the formula is a good one. OPS is a simple equation that gets you 90+% of the way there. GPA gets you 99% of the way there. However, it works for hitters since you are dealing with an average of opposition. In other words, it can tell you how many runs a Wade Boggs or a Dave Kingman are creating, but it doesn't tell you how many runs a pitcher should give up when facing a half Boggs half Kingman monster. It gets worse when you have faced hundreds of different hitters and all the OBP and Slug regress to the mean. GPA might STILL be better, but first I need to work the kinks out of OPS. After that I can test more advanced formulas.
I'm not kidding, Glavine really is a statistical anomaly, much more so than a CM Wang.
