What does EV mean?

**wrongturn** · 04-04-11, 04:24 PM

EV stands for expected value. +EV bet is a bet that is expected to make you money after you make enough number of such bet. Google for more authentic answers.

**unusialsusp5** · 04-04-11, 04:48 PM

i think it means that you are betting even money 43.00 to win 43.00 on an even-6 baseball line for example...

**wiffle** · 04-04-11, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

i think it means that you are betting even money 43.00 to win 43.00 on an even-6 baseball line for example...

lawl

**LT Profits** · 04-04-11, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by wrongturn

EV stands for expected value. +EV bet is a bet that is expected to make you money after you make enough number of such bet. Google for more authentic answers.

^This

An example of +EV is getting -140 on a play with a 60% probability

An example of -EV is getting +200 on a play with a 30% probability

**rfr3sh** · 04-04-11, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

i think it means that you are betting even money 43.00 to win 43.00 on an even-6 baseball line for example...

lol you are not the only one who thinks this on the site...sadly

**antifoil** · 04-04-11, 06:36 PM

the easiest way to explain is in a coin flip example since the odds are known. there is a 50-50 chance that a coin will come up heads or tail which makes the fair odds an even bet of 1:1 or risk 100 dollars to win 100 dollars. over the long run your expected value here would be to break even since there is no edge favoring one side. however, if you could convince your buddy to pay you 110 dollars every time the coin comes up head but only pay him 100 dollars when the coin is tails then you would have an expected value return of 10 dollars every 2 coin flips or 5 dollars every one coin flip.

EV = (probability of winning) x (amount won per bet) + (probability of losing) x (amount lost per bet)

**PureGuava** · 04-05-11, 12:14 PM

Thanks. Any more examples with sports betting?

**stevenash** · 04-05-11, 12:22 PM

I thought EV was Kentucky to win the National Championship at +140

**WendysRox** · 04-11-11, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by PureGuava

I never really understood what this means. Could someone explain to me what EV stands for and what an -EV bet is and a +EV bet is.

Thanks,

PureGuava

If you ask me, this is a must read: http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicapper-think-tank/29841-maximizing-expected-growth-kelly-criterion-part-ii.html

**arwar** · 04-13-11, 09:04 AM

well in sportsbetting the EV is by definition a subjective thing. then recently a buddy of mine asked about applying Kelly to Poker. EV in poker is easy because the calculations of winning probabilities can and are published with certainty. DOH

**mr.inpak** · 04-13-11, 09:29 AM

even means even money example phillies -110-even vs. atlanta dime line in baseball philadelphia $110-100 atlanta $100-100 even money

**Jenney001** · 04-15-11, 03:32 AM

Thanks for the response..

**FrizB** · 04-15-11, 01:04 PM

Thanks. I wasn't sure either...

**Krashman** · 04-15-11, 09:26 PM

+EV means a bet has a positive expected value
-EV means a bet has a negative expected value

Lets say there is a sporting event, you follow this sport closely, you analyze the stats of both teams, you think both teams are evenly matched, its a toss up as to which team could win it.

So you log in to your bookie and the odds are +150/-160. The book is saying the home team is the dog (+150) and is more likely to lose. You disagree and remain convinced it is an even matchup.

Since you expect both teams have equal chance of winning, from your point of view the +150 line at the sport book is a +EV bet, because it pays 1.5 times the amount bet, a bet which you expect to win 50% of the time. You more than double your bet half of the time, and YOU expect to win this bet half of the time.

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POSITIVE EXPECTED VALUE is expresses as +EV
NEGATIVE EXPECTED VALUE is expressed as -EV

EVEN ODDS is expressed as +100, or -100, or 2.0 (decimal odds), or 1/1 (fractional odds), or 50% (implied probability)
or for example totals o8.5 EV

**ViPeRz** · 04-16-11, 07:12 AM

Good luck to you gava

**HoulihansTX** · 04-16-11, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by unusialsusp5

i think it means that you are betting even money 43.00 to win 43.00 on an even-6 baseball line for example...

Originally posted by mr.inpak

even means even money example phillies -110-even vs. atlanta dime line in baseball philadelphia $110-100 atlanta $100-100 even money

Fail x2

**Richkas** · 04-16-11, 11:32 AM

80% of the guys in the think tank think they're sharp. The books laugh at them.

**onetrickpony** · 04-17-11, 04:50 AM

unreal

**ncsubowen** · 04-17-11, 08:19 AM

It means expected value.

Expected Value (EV) in Poker - Explained | Poker Strategy

http://www.pokerlistings.com/strategy/expected-value-ev-explained

Poker is all about making the best decisions you can with limited information. In other words, +EV (plus expected value) decisions. Here's how to do it.

"In probability theory the expected value of a random variable is the sum of the probability of each possible outcome of the experiment multiplied by the outcome value (or payoff). Thus, it represents the average amount one 'expects' as the outcome of the random trial when identical odds are repeated many times."
What that means in English: expected value is the amount of money you would win or lose on average on your bet.