Free throw multiplier in the Posessions equation

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  • tool21
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-25-08
    • 102

    #1
    Free throw multiplier in the Posessions equation
    What do you use for NCAAB and NBA?

    I've seen mostly .475 for NCAAB and .44(.436) for NBA. Anybody have others they like to use?
    Last edited by tool21; 03-31-08, 05:44 PM.
  • Arnold
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-17-07
    • 906

    #2
    Here it says .44 for NBA:

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    • tool21
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-25-08
      • 102

      #3
      [Actually, Oliver uses 0.4 as the multiplier for FTs. Ken Pomeroy has discovered that 0.475 works better for the college game. Oliver works with NBA data.]
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      • tool21
        SBR High Roller
        • 01-25-08
        • 102

        #4
        Thanks Arnold, seems like your the only one that can post around here. Seriously, thanks.

        I've been using .436 in NBA i'm trying to figure out a good number for College.
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        • Arnold
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-17-07
          • 906

          #5
          No problem. Just something that I can help with.
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          • tool21
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-25-08
            • 102

            #6
            That Wiki page is a good read. A lot of soild info for beginners and vets to make sure they got things right. So it looks like .44 for NBA and .475 for NCAAB
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            • turnip
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-03-06
              • 940

              #7
              I cap NCAA rather than NBA, so Pomeroy is like a demi-god to me and I would go with his number, .475 as Arnold says.

              It might be worth pointing out that Pomeroy used to use .42 until he discovered .475 worked better. This doesn't matter if you're calculating it yourself, but some sites with possession data, like bbstate.com, still use .42
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              • Justin7
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-31-06
                • 8577

                #8
                Oliver's book "Basketball on Paper" is fantastic... I'd read that if you are modeling.
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                • tool21
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 01-25-08
                  • 102

                  #9
                  I allready have a pretty accurate model without reading any books. I'm just working on tweaking it.
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                  • 20Four7
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-08-07
                    • 6703

                    #10
                    Justin is a fairly knowledgeable capper, if he recommends something I'd be inclined to listen, tweaking or not.
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                    • turnip
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-03-06
                      • 940

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 20Four7
                      Justin is a fairly knowledgeable capper, if he recommends something I'd be inclined to listen, tweaking or not.
                      Indeed, Oliver's book is the bible of statistical basketball research
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                      • tool21
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 01-25-08
                        • 102

                        #12
                        Thank you for the information

                        I'm really not into reading statistical books though. I've played the sports i bet on and i think (atleast in my head) i know how they work enough to make a model. My math backround is better than average as well.
                        Last edited by tool21; 04-02-08, 10:02 PM.
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                        • BrUno0
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 03-30-08
                          • 574

                          #13
                          WHat's the book called?
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                          • turnip
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 12-03-06
                            • 940

                            #14
                            Basketball on Paper
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