Does the team that cover the first half line usually cover the game?

[dynamite140]

Wanted to know this for NFL. But is there some person that would ever keep a record of something like this? The same with MLB say the first 5 innings, if team A is leading after 1st 5, how often do they win the game? I would be interested in the NBA as well but i think basketball is the only one that is probably 50 percent while baseball or football would be a lot better.

[Dark Horse]

If you want the know, do the research. If you don't want to do the research, you don't really want to know.
If you can ask the question, the answer is within your reach. Unless you're lazy. I would say that the key to sports betting is that basic dynamic. The question is not a doorbell. Nobody is going to open the door for you. It is a key. Once you enter the house, you still have the find the loot. It's work.

[mminkovski]

Yes, the team usually covers full time and NO, bookies normally do not allow parlays for HT and FT if this what you're aiming for (at least for soccer I am 100% sure)

[dynamite140]

Hey mminkovski, no i never thought about that idea. Didn't even thought that was possible until you brought it up. I also don't play parlays. Reason i asked this is because i know in MLB if you have a bet on a team and they are down after the first 5 innings, whether its 1 run or more, it never looks good for you and you will most likely lose your bet. However, in the NFL, i think there is a better chance for the team losing the first half spread say they are getting 6 points full game and 3 for 1st half and down 7 at the moment and at the end to comeback to 6 spread. I do feel the NBA has the best chance of a team who is down at halftime spreadwise of course to the halftime line, to come and cover the game.

[Shonner]

If you want the know, do the research. If you don't want to do the research, you don't really want to know.
If you can ask the question, the answer is within your reach. Unless you're lazy. I would say that the key to sports betting is that basic dynamic. The question is not a doorbell. Nobody is going to open the door for you. It is a key. Once you enter the house, you still have the find the loot. It's work.

I may be wrong here, but I don't think it is laziness. People that are unfamiliar with stats, math, and research are sometimes unaware of the tools and methods available. He was probably thinking the information would be readily available, I don't think he was asking anyone to go crunch #'s for him and do his work. His post would have been better if it stated HOW to find this out, and your response would have been more helpful if you would have maybe given the guy a suggestion on how to figure this out himself. Guys in the think tank are the most educated, smartest, professional bettors on the forum and it always helpful and appreciated when they lend a hand.

[Dark Horse]

Guys in the think tank are the most educated, smartest, professional bettors on the forum and it always helpful and appreciated when they lend a hand.

you forgot 'hard working'?

There are two approaches to the strange phenomenon of a question popping up in the mind. In western education the typical reaction is to raise one's hand in the classroom, and let someone else do the thinking. The other approach is to recognize the question as an initial impulse, the start of a process of research. These two approaches, over the long term, produce two very different types of individuals. One thinks for himself, and discovers things the other, who does not think for himself, would not. Since this is a general principle that can make a huge difference in a sports betting career, I thought I'd mention it.

[Shonner]

you forgot 'hard working'?

There are two approaches to the strange phenomenon of a question popping up in the mind. In western education the typical reaction is to raise one's hand in the classroom, and let someone else do the thinking. The other approach is to recognize the question as an initial impulse, the start of a process of research. These two approaches, over the long term, produce two very different types of individuals. One thinks for himself, and discovers things the other, who does not think for himself, would not. Since this is a general principle that can make a huge difference in a sports betting career, I thought I'd mention it.

I wasn't trying to ruffle your feathers...I see where you are coming from.

But you should also know that a good portion of successful people have 1 thing in common - someone that took them under their wings. We all have different learning styles, abilities, and habits we have learned through conditioning. Sometimes, a little push that propels you 2 feet is all you need to go the distance.

[Wrecktangle]

Lets see: I spend tons of hours building a checked out db, then a bunch more writing code to find stuff like this, then I post it so a bunch of folks I wouldn't know if I met them on the street can beat up the market so I have less of a chance of profiting from my research.

That model went out with the Soviet Union.

[wrongturn]

It is no brainier. The answer is yes. And how often depends on how much the team covers the first half. Don't know exact numbers, but one research method is to write down the 1H score and 2H line for each game, and study them.

[Shonner]

Lets see: I spend tons of hours building a checked out db, then a bunch more writing code to find stuff like this, then I post it so a bunch of folks I wouldn't know if I met them on the street can beat up the market so I have less of a chance of profiting from my research.

That model went out with the Soviet Union.

Good point

[LegitBet]

Wow
Darkhorse you blew me away with your post,
More accurately your mind. You remind me of a chess grandmaster I used to learn with back in Los angeles.
Your insight transcends gambling.... I'm grateful to you for what I know I will learn from you, if I can fight through my knee jerk reaction to 'raise my hand in class' and trust my gut that my question is worthy of my supreme effort to get it answered.

Andrew

[Peep]

No idea why everyone is so hostile to the OP.

The answer is of course "yes".

I would think the think tank is set up so people can ask questions of a techincal nature. And do so without being called "lazy".

Geezs. Tough crowd.

[Sledge187]

Good Question! I like your face!

[sharpcat]

No idea why everyone is so hostile to the OP.

The answer is of course "yes".

I would think the think tank is set up so people can ask questions of a techincal nature. And do so without being called "lazy".

Geezs. Tough crowd.

Guy pops up with 2-3 of these threads a day where he asks for answers to questions that could be easily answered if he took the time to think for himself.

[Maverick22]

op got pwnt

[craigpb]

Usually a bad 1st half is hard to overcome. If it is overcome, usually means spread for game is pretty big.

[Wrecktangle]

No idea why everyone is so hostile to the OP.

The answer is of course "yes".

I would think the think tank is set up so people can ask questions of a techincal nature. And do so without being called "lazy".

Geezs. Tough crowd.

Peep, go research my posts. You'll find a lot of advice on how to do things for yourself in modeling, etc that will save tons of hours, BUT YOU NEED TO DO THE WORK.

If you want things handed to you in a silver platter, go read Atlas Shrugged.

[LegitBet]

Atlas Shrugged is a novel by Ayn Rand, first published in 1957 in the United States. Rand's fourth and last novel, it was also her longest, and the one she considered to be her magnum opus in the realm of fiction writing.[1] As indicated by its working title The Strike, the book explores a dystopian United States where leading innovators, ranging from industrialists to artists, refuse to be exploited by society. The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry, while society's most productive citizens, led by the mysterious John Galt, progressively disappear. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the "minds" that drive society's growth and productivity. In their efforts, these "men of the mind" hope to demonstrate that a world in which the individual is not free to create is doomed, that civilization cannot exist where men are slave to society and government, and that the destruction of the profit motive leads to the collapse of society.

[statictheory]

Atlas Shrugged is a novel by Ayn Rand, first published in 1957 in the United States. Rand's fourth and last novel, it was also her longest, and the one she considered to be her magnum opus in the realm of fiction writing.[1] As indicated by its working title The Strike, the book explores a dystopian United States where leading innovators, ranging from industrialists to artists, refuse to be exploited by society. The protagonist, Dagny Taggart, sees society collapse around her as the government increasingly asserts control over all industry, while society's most productive citizens, led by the mysterious John Galt, progressively disappear. Galt describes the strike as "stopping the motor of the world" by withdrawing the "minds" that drive society's growth and productivity. In their efforts, these "men of the mind" hope to demonstrate that a world in which the individual is not free to create is doomed, that civilization cannot exist where men are slave to society and government, and that the destruction of the profit motive leads to the collapse of society.

Jesus fking chrst ,


think tank is on tilt

[LegitBet]

NAHHHHHH......I fess up! cut and paste from wikipedia.
BUT I DID FIND THE ANSWER MYSELF!!!!!!!!!

[frankbettor]

I have the answer to your question, backed by the numerical data needed to prove the percentages....and it is going to cost you money. That's right, I'll sell it to you. What is it worth to you?

[That Foreign Guy]

Yes, the team usually covers full time and NO, bookies normally do not allow parlays for HT and FT if this what you're aiming for (at least for soccer I am 100% sure)

Sadly true but a lot of bookies do allow 1H and Game singles and apply separate limits to them which can be convenient

NAHHHHHH......I fess up! cut and paste from wikipedia. BUT I DID FIND THE ANSWER MYSELF!!!!!!!!!

So free-loading off the creators of wikipedia and the guys who update the Ann Rand pages is OK but not free-loading off the guys who have sports databases? (actually, I know it is and for obvious reasons - I just wanted to be cheeky)

But yeah, I mostly agree that this isn't asking for help this is asking for spoon-feeding and that's the key difference in whether a thread is worthwhile or not.