Best Sportsbetting Systems??
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dmarkidesSBR Rookie
- 01-24-10
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THE PROFITSBR Posting Legend
- 11-27-09
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#37Basically you have to find a system that has a statistically significant mathematical advantage for the bettor. Trust me, these edges are not easily found. But if you are willing to search hard enough and crunch numbers enough, they can be found.
If you are thinking about systems that use manipulation of bets somehow (martingale, larouche, etc), forget it - they don't work. People will swear up and down that they have used a system to success or modified it somehow to make it effective - it's all hogwash. In the end, you will lose. Read and repeat.
The only way to win long term is to find out probabilities of certain events and find particular ways to exploit that through mathematical bets. I have one system for hockey and two for MLB...between all 3, I can make about 125-200u per year. But it is the ultimate grind - the edge isn't super large, but it is significant enough that if you stick to your gameplan, you will most definitely make money in the long run. The odds are in my favor. No I cannot share any of them, as they would exploited by sharps to no end and the value would be lost for me. But I am working hard to find others...thought I had one the other day, but the math didn't back it up so I can't use it.
Let's say I know I the probability of an event happening is 20% - and that event % has been generated from a sample size of over 10K events. When that event happens, I will lose 1 unit, but the other 80% of the time, I win 0.3 units...so over the long run, I should win 0.2 units over every 5 bets ( (4 * 0.3) - 1 = 0.2)...those are the type of scenarios I am interested in. Trust me I've crunched a ton of them and have only found 3 so far that work...Comment -
THE PROFITSBR Posting Legend
- 11-27-09
- 17701
#38Marc Lawrence is a trend handicapper, his DB goes back to 1980, I guess that's a large enough sample size for some things but not for others. Anyway, he is spot on in football, one of the best FB cappers IMO and is crazy accurate in college football. In basketball not so. I'm sure he uses this same method in both.
I am a football capper myself, I feel it is easier to intimately keep up with as there are much fewer games & teams, pro & college. IYO, is football easier to predict, I mean trends do seem to have much more of an advantage in football, do you agree. Would this be the reason Larence is much more successful than in hoops?Comment -
JVP3122SBR MVP
- 05-02-09
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#39Let's say I know I the probability of an event happening is 20% - and that event % has been generated from a sample size of over 10K events. When that event happens, I will lose 1 unit, but the other 80% of the time, I win 0.3 units...so over the long run, I should win 0.2 units over every 5 bets ( (4 * 0.3) - 1 = 0.2)...those are the type of scenarios I am interested in. Trust me I've crunched a ton of them and have only found 3 so far that work...Comment -
phans3SBR Rookie
- 02-15-10
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#40I disagree, there is definatly some very worthy chase systems out there. The problem is the MM.
I am running close to 10 NBA/NHL chase systems mixed in with a pretty creative MM strategy and doing very well so far. I have taken several chase losses, and still in the positive.
People focus too much on chase system losses and not enough on building a MM strategy that can absorb the losses and grind away at them without taking big risks.
egr99
you can't win longterm with a chase system if the bets made are ev-
if you think you can than why in the world would you bet sports? move on to roulette and chase the shit if the casinos cause at some point red has to come... you just have to double ur money till red hits
ezy gameComment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#41Missed this back when it was posted but the answer is no. Take another example. Player makes a -ev but +eg hedge. Is that -eg for whoever is booking the hedge?Comment -
xyzSBR Wise Guy
- 02-14-08
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#42Would the following be another example of -ev and -eg for the book when the player is +ev and -eg? If the book's bank roll is smaller than the player's bankroll, then accepting the player's 20% bankroll bet would be -eg for the book. Of course, it should not happen in real life due to limits.Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#43
Would the following be another example of -ev and -eg for the book when the player is +ev and -eg? If the book's bank roll is smaller than the player's bankroll, then accepting the player's 20% bankroll bet would be -eg for the book. Of course, it should not happen in real life due to limits.Comment -
yellowmanSBR High Roller
- 03-23-09
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#45The funny thing is .. my systems have nothing really to do with the sports themselves...NHL and MLB. They strictly work on numbers...and I don't mean that 'bet a home dog after they've lost 3 straight to sub .500 teams' bullshit. It is really mechanical. I really don't know much about either sport other than the rules...again all my plays are purely statistical...Comment -
HailMarySBR Rookie
- 12-15-09
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#46i have to admire"YellowMan" what he says is true,as in any worthy endeavor you must Put in the WORK, your niche is only good as long as the "Public" doesn't know about. another example is Black Jack in order to have half a chance You Must Be Able To Count Cards+ or - and then and only then you have a shot at winning a modest sum. naturally you should tip out to the dealers, otherwise they really may closer attention to there "Shuffle". If you happen to win (Med) Show a random act of kindness to someone you never met,how does it feel? i'll bet it made you feel uplifting? Hail MarysbrComment -
donjuanSBR MVP
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u21c3f6SBR Wise Guy
- 01-17-09
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#48
Wagering 2.5% of bankroll expected bankroll after 500 wagers is: $1,638.59
Wagering 5% of bankroll expected bankroll after 500 wagers is: $1,964.63
Wagering 10% of bankroll expected bankroll after 500 wagers is: $1,100.91
Wagering 15% of bankroll expected bankroll after 500 wagers is: $ 172.11
Wagering 20% of bankroll expected bankroll after 500 wagers is: $ 7.19
That's why I like to point out that even if you don't use Kelly, it is important to know your Kelly % to avoid overbetting your bankroll.
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mike23Restricted User
- 02-20-10
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#491st there's Martingale, then improvised by Morrison using some criteria to end chase after 3 series of betting and released more fine tune version. I combine them all, a chase using Labouchere using picks of good Cappers and betting within bankroll 5 to 10% rule. It's all about MM.Comment -
JVP3122SBR MVP
- 05-02-09
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#501st there's Martingale, then improvised by Morrison using some criteria to end chase after 3 series of betting and released more fine tune version. I combine them all, a chase using Labouchere using picks of good Cappers and betting within bankroll 5 to 10% rule. It's all about MM.Comment -
crownonthegroundSBR Hustler
- 01-17-10
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#51I second sports betting champComment -
saro7SBR Hustler
- 02-20-09
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#52I third sports betting champComment -
LarryFSBR Wise Guy
- 12-11-09
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#53SBC + MM = ProfitsComment -
tobias123SBR Rookie
- 03-19-10
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#55Also i'd have to say that i've been impressed by sports betting professor has been very good thus far, although i get the feeling that MM could be improved on this too....Comment -
BRAVES1985SBR MVP
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#56Sbc sucks cockComment -
GetPaid10Restricted User
- 07-16-10
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#57Betting Systems
I have read a few post in here and in my opinion they all are a bit far fetched, but I use John Morrison's system and it works we took a loss the other day with the Angels but I did not bet the final game the starting pitcher was hurt but it is what it is but we had won 10 games in a row before then my Bank Roll is up by alot no need to brag on the number but it's up and another system im looking into due to the fact John doesnt bet on College Football or Basketball (to my knowledge) Worlds Greatest Sports Betting System, Ultimate Sports Betting System and The Syndicating Betting System im looking into all of these but as the 4 Major Sports goes John Morrison is the system but the most important thing is Money Management Personally I bet 40% of my bankroll and 45% on a B bet thats all you will need or you could bet 20% (A) 25% (B) 50% (C) and you will always profit but try any of them out for yourself but regardless of who or what you use manage your money and if your betting with money you cant afford to lose then stop betting and always set paramaters before you start no matter how little or big your bankroll and stick with it and you will profit. I have no idea what everybody is talking about with this unit crap I talk dollars and cents I could care less about the units I care how many Benjamins Im up. And remember GETPAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
BradydSBR MVP
- 12-19-08
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#58Some of the best advice given can be found in this thread.Comment -
Ferndog68SBR Wise Guy
- 03-05-13
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#59i have to admire"YellowMan" what he says is true,as in any worthy endeavor you must Put in the WORK, your niche is only good as long as the "Public" doesn't know about. another example is Black Jack in order to have half a chance You Must Be Able To Count Cards+ or - and then and only then you have a shot at winning a modest sum. naturally you should tip out to the dealers, otherwise they really may closer attention to there "Shuffle". If you happen to win (Med) Show a random act of kindness to someone you never met,how does it feel? i'll bet it made you feel uplifting? Hail MaryComment -
bettingstationSBR MVP
- 03-25-13
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#60still, like a poker... 50% luck and 50% skills....Comment -
drawsterSBR Rookie
- 11-03-13
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#61I have to say that from my experience using statistics and math is a big edge but I still believe that money management is the critical point in a betting system.Comment -
ProlinePlayerSBR Hustler
- 05-03-07
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actnaturalSBR High Roller
- 08-15-10
- 127
#63Everybody have their own system but the best or The Ultimate System is FADING....fading not the public but A public(find your own public and fade them like espn countdown when they interview a player from a team that's on the radar, pictures/ write-ups of nfl team they post on thursday, drunk friends, and/or family members, yourself,etc etc etc!!!) How do you think vegas and local bookies make millions off gambling??? It's a control game, odds are against the public but we fail to realize the wiseguys are also part of the public and majority of the public consist mainly more of the degenerates!!! Do this... get hammered off drugz and down a 12 pack of beer, look through da schedule, pick 3teams that you really like or love, and FADE it!!! Or vice versa...if you see teams you really hate Ride it!!! You're not going to win them all but you will win more than you lose using the Fade system!!!Comment -
HarunSBR MVP
- 07-25-11
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#64-dont take too many bets
-just bet on ur most successful sports at betting
-don't leave from money management and disciplineComment -
slapshotSBR MVP
- 10-27-07
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#65finding a pattern in data that doesn't fail............or develop system that will generate results without crazy streaks on a large sample size.....very close to impossible to do.
however, is there any money management systems that can overcome losing streaks or bad runs....you bet there is.
you can be a 50% ats bettor and make good money with the sharp money management system over a sample size of a thousand games a year.Comment -
747planesSBR Wise Guy
- 08-25-13
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747planesSBR Wise Guy
- 08-25-13
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#67Best system is to follow bettingresource dot com and fade lang and hondo. Easy 75k to 100k if you follow that system using bettingresource money management. treat lang and hondo fades as 10 unit plays flat. This is really not a system but a good way to make money. Any bettingysystems that uses blind method without updating will fail because books will adjust. handicapping is the best way to win. if you suck fade or follow certain cappers.Comment -
WojoSBR MVP
- 03-19-10
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#68Anybody who follows a chase system, such as Martingale, is going to lose in the long run. That is guaranteed.
Believe what you want to. It is proven that these systems lose.
Good luck to ignorant followers.Comment -
actnaturalSBR High Roller
- 08-15-10
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#70Best system is to follow bettingresource dot com and fade lang and hondo. Easy 75k to 100k if you follow that system using bettingresource money management. treat lang and hondo fades as 10 unit plays flat. This is really not a system but a good way to make money. Any bettingysystems that uses blind method without updating will fail because books will adjust. handicapping is the best way to win. if you suck fade or follow certain cappers.Comment
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