Tough to say what they’re going to do I honestly could see them standing pat or maybe making a minor deal here or there to upgrade their starting pitching. One thing for sure I wouldn’t want to be their GM out of all the 30 teams because that job has to be the toughest since I think the fanbase for the most part wants them to compete for the postseason.
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jrgum3SBR Hall of Famer
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#2522Was that a win for Zimmerman tonight?Comment -
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#2523Nats and Braves game was good. Angels suck. Pads easy over Orioles. Those were the ones I watchedComment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
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#2524Tough to say what they’re going to do I honestly could see them standing pat or maybe making a minor deal here or there to upgrade their starting pitching. One thing for sure I wouldn’t want to be their GM out of all the 30 teams because that job has to be the toughest since I think the fanbase for the most part wants them to compete for the postseason.
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#2525Bo Bichette notches a single in his first MLB at bat yesterday.Comment -
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#2526Phils acquire Vargas from Mets to bolster rotation
The Philadelphia Phillies acquired left-hander Jason Vargas in a trade with the division-rival New York Mets on Monday.
The Mets received minor league catcher Austin Bossart in the deal, and the Phillies could get a boost to a starting rotation that has struggled throughout the season.Comment -
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#2528I think the Giants will be buyers.Comment -
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#25293 team trade
Bauer to Cincinnati[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]Comment -
Otters27BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2531Bauer was always a temper guy. I remember his UCLA daysComment -
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#25329:50pm: The Reds are sending lefty prospect Scott Moss to the Indians, per Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com.
9:37pm: The Indians will also acquire rookie-level infielder Victor Nova from the Padres, AJ Cassavell of MLB.com tweets.
9:28pm: The trade is still pending medical reviews, according to Heyman. That’s especially notable considering Puig is currently involved in a brawl in the Reds-Pirates game.
9:08pm: In a massive and stunning three-team trade involving Cincinnati, Cleveland and San Diego, the Reds will acquire right-hander Trevor Bauer from the Indians, Jeff Passan of ESPN reports. The Reds will send outfielder Yasiel Puig to the Indians and outfield prospect Taylor Trammell to the Padres, per reports from Jon Heyman of MLB Network and Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. In addition to Puig, the Indians will land outfielder Franmil Reyes and young left-hander Logan Allen from the Padres, Dennis Lin of The Athletic relays.
At 49-55 and 6 1/2 games out of wild-card position, Cincinnati’s chances of earning a playoff spot this year appear close to dead. Nevertheless, the poor win-loss results the team has achieved this season didn’t deter president of baseball operations Dick Williams and general manager Nick Krall, whose goal is to make a more serious playoff push in 2020. The Reds may be in position to do that by picking up Bauer, who – barring more deals – could team with Luis Castillo, Sonny Gray, Anthony DeSclafani and Tyler Mahle to give the Reds one of the game’s best rotations next season. Cincinnati’s starting staff has been a formidable group without Bauer this year, but it could lose one or two veterans by Wednesday’s trade deadline. Tanner Roark and Alex Wood look like possible candidates to wind up on the move, but even if they stay put through the season, they’re not under contract beyond then.
The 28-year-old Bauer has been a quality, albeit somewhat frustrating, starter since he entered the pro ranks as the third overall pick of the Diamondbacks in 2011. He went to the Indians in a three-team trade in 2012 (which also involved the Reds) and has since pitched to a 3.89 ERA/3.95 FIP across 1,044 1/3 innings and 180 appearances (170 starts). Bauer was at his best last year, during which he earned Cy Young consideration on the strength of a splendid 2.21 ERA/2.44 FIP over 175 1/3 frames.
While Bauer hasn’t been as effective this season, he has still notched a solid 3.79 ERA/4.17 FIP with 10.63 K/9 against 3.62 BB/9 through a league-leading 156 2/3 innings. That was eminently valuable production to a Cleveland team which has been without Corey Kluber, Carlos Carrasco and Mike Clevinger for significant parts of the season, but it nonetheless deemed Bauer expendable. In his final act as an Indian, Bauer fired a ball from the pitcher’s mound over the center field wall Sunday after a frustrating outing in Kansas City.
Clearly, Bauer’s on-field tantrum last weekend didn’t have an adverse affecton his trade value. The Indians are bringing back a major haul for Bauer, who’s making $13MM now, will earn an arbitration raise next season and has said he plans to go year to year in free agency thereafter. As a 62-44 team that holds the American League’s top wild-card and trails the AL Central-leading Twins by 2 1/2 games, the Indians were only going to trade Bauer if it helped them stay in contention this season. It appears this deal will enable them to accomplish that. It’ll also shave quite a bit of salary from the Indians’ 2020 books while giving them multiple potential long-term pieces.
Puig is only under control through this season, during which he’s making a $9.7MM salary, but will team with Reyes to help give the Indians the right-handed outfield/DH punch they’d been seeking. With the Puig and Reyes acquisitions, the Indians have become the first team to ever land two 20-home run hitters in one midseason trade, Joel Sherman of the New York Post points out.
The 28-year-old Puig joined the Reds last winter in a previous blockbuster involving the Dodgers. Although Puig got off to a horrible start this season, his production has taken off over the past several weeks. Puig now owns a .252/.302/.475 slash with 22 home runs and 14 stolen bases (19 attempts) across 404 plate appearances. Long a capable defender in right field, Puig has also performed well in that aspect this year. One of the key elements of this deal for Puig is that it completely wipes out the possibility of him receiving a qualifying offer after the season. Puig only looked like a borderline candidate for a QO, but now that he’s off the Reds, he’s on schedule to reach free agency unfettered over the winter.
Just as Bauer’s Indians stint ended in bizarre fashion, so did Puig’s days with the Reds. He was involved in a brawl during the Reds-Pirates game Tuesday when news of the trade came down. Puig may have to serve a suspension early in his Tribe tenure as a result.
There are no such concerns centering on Reyes, who has emerged as one of the game’s foremost power bats since he debuted a year ago. Although Reyes has struggled to consistently get on base this season, his first full year in the majors, the big-bodied 24-year-old has still batted .255/.314/.536 (117 wRC+) with 27 home runs in 354 PA. Given his prolific home run totals, Reyes could eventually rake in sizable sums via arbitration, but that isn’t something the Indians will have to worry about for the foreseeable future. Reyes, 24, isn’t on track to reach arbitration until after the 2021 season, and he’s not scheduled to become a free agent until the conclusion of the 2024 campaign.
Not to be forgotten, the Indians are also getting three younger players in this deal in Allen, Nova and Moss. The 22-year-old entered the season as a top 100-caliber prospect. He has since struggled in a 25 1/3-inning major league sample and in 57 2/3 frames with Triple-A El Paso of the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League. However, Allen was still regarded as one of the many high-end prospects in a jam-packed Padres system. FanGraphs’ Kiley McDaniel and Eric Longenhagen ranked Allen as the Padres’ eighth-best farmhand back in May, writing that he “comfortably projects as a No. 4 starter.”
Nova, 19, was not grouped in with the Padres’ premier farmhands, but Longenhagen tweets that the infielder’s “an interesting, bat-first flier.” The Dominican Republic native has held his own this year in rookie ball, where he has batted .330/.421/.451 (136 wRC+) with seven steals in 109 PA.
Now 24, Moss became a Red when they used a fourth-round pick on him in 2016. The former Tommy John patient has since logged appealing results in the minors, including this year. In his first experience in Double-A ball, Moss has thrown 102 innings and recorded a 3.44 ERA/3.52 FIP with 10.85 K/9, though he has walked just over five hitters per nine. Moss ranked as the Reds’ 12th overall prospect at MLB.com, with Mayo and colleague Jim Callis noting he has a “somewhat limited” ceiling but could turn into a back-end starter or swingman at the MLB level.
The highest-ranked prospect in this trade is Trammell, whom Baseball America and ESPN’s Keith Law (subscriptions required) placed near the top of the sport in their most recent updates. BA rates Trammell 41st, while Law’s even more bullish (No. 14). This hasn’t been a hugely effective season for the 21-year-old Trammell, who has batted .236/.350/.338 (108 wRC+) with six homers and 17 steals in 377 PA during his initial taste of Double-A action. However, youth and injuries have played a part in Trammell’s unspectacular production, explains Law, who contends the youngster has the tools to become “a good regular or a star” in left field.
The Padres, of course, gave up a substantial amount to acquire Trammell. But trading Reyes will somewhat enable the club to alleviate its current logjam in the outfield. With Reyes out of the mix, the Padres still have two starting-caliber corner outfield options in Hunter Renfroe and the maligned and expensive Wil Myers. They also have rookie Josh Naylor, Travis Jankowski and Franchy Cordero as 40-man options who are either in the minors or injured at present.
Weighing all the pieces in this trade, it’s all the more surprising the Blue Jays couldn’t reel in a greater return for righty Marcus Stroman this past weekend. At $7.4MM, Stroman’s cheaper than Bauer, under control for the same period and has arguably been the better of the two this season. Nevertheless, in a trade with the Mets, the Jays were only able to secure two non-elite prospects – pitchers Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods Richardson – for Stroman. There was plenty of chatter afterward that teams were clinging to their prospects and unwilling to part with truly outstanding young talent anymore, but this three-way deal shows that isn’t the case.Comment -
BigSpoonSBR MVP
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#2533A strange massive trade. Who would have thought a week ago that Stroman would be traded to the Mets and Bauer to the Reds?Comment -
jrgum3SBR Hall of Famer
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#2534Guess the Reds are going for it by getting Bauer. I mean that Central isn't exactly out of reach so I can see that move putting them in contention in the seasons final months because their pitching is actually pretty solid this season. Don't know how I feel about the Indians acquiring Puig because I've always pulled for the Indians since they've gone a long time without winning a World Series but now they've gone out there and gotten somebody whom I despise and will probably always despise going back to his days as a Dodger. Naturally he was part of that brawl tonight and will probably serve a suspension before playing his first game as a member of the Tribe.Comment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
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#2535Puig to the tribe🙄Comment -
JAKEPEAVY21BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2536As a Padres fan, I was very upset when this trade first broke. Now after reading more about Trammell, it''s growing on me a little but i still don't like it. The Padres love Trammell's skill set as a left handed speed guy with good OBP and the Padres desperately need another lefty bat and guys that can get on base at a higher clip.
It remains to be seen how this shakes out but I feel like Reyes was worth more than a prospect. That said, Reyes was a liability in the field and should be a great DH in the AL. I do think that they made the right call in keeping Renfroe over Reyes. Renfroe is a far better athlete and defensive outfielder. I will miss Reyes' jovial personality and power bat.Comment -
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#2537With an eye on the future, the Padres set out to balance their righty-heavy lineup and to find long-term clarity in their outfield.On Tuesday, they might have accomplished both. But they paid a steep price.
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JAKEPEAVY21BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2538That is the Padres beat writer and how he is spinning it.
This is one of the first trades from AJ Preller that leaves me scratching my head. He has made a lot of good trades for SD in his tenure but immediately I did not like this one. I guess Padres fans can only hope Trammell turns out to be what they envision. He does have great speed, plays great defense and gets on base at a high clip so we shall see.Comment -
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#2539AJ CassavellVerified account @AJCassavell 5h5 hours agoMore
The Padres don't appear to be finished, and one source said they're likely to be active "right up until the Deadline." As far as I know, the price remains high on Kirby Yates. But he's still on the table.
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Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
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#2540Guess the Reds are going for it by getting Bauer. I mean that Central isn't exactly out of reach so I can see that move putting them in contention in the seasons final months because their pitching is actually pretty solid this season. Don't know how I feel about the Indians acquiring Puig because I've always pulled for the Indians since they've gone a long time without winning a World Series but now they've gone out there and gotten somebody whom I despise and will probably always despise going back to his days as a Dodger. Naturally he was part of that brawl tonight and will probably serve a suspension before playing his first game as a member of the Tribe.
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CrossSBR Hall of Famer
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#2541Can’t believe the reds aren’t sellers right now.Comment -
JMobileSBR Posting Legend
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#2542As a Padres fan, I was very upset when this trade first broke. Now after reading more about Trammell, it''s growing on me a little but i still don't like it. The Padres love Trammell's skill set as a left handed speed guy with good OBP and the Padres desperately need another lefty bat and guys that can get on base at a higher clip.
It remains to be seen how this shakes out but I feel like Reyes was worth more than a prospect. That said, Reyes was a liability in the field and should be a great DH in the AL. I do think that they made the right call in keeping Renfroe over Reyes. Renfroe is a far better athlete and defensive outfielder. I will miss Reyes' jovial personality and power bat.Comment -
dudekidSBR MVP
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#2543I personally would rather have Franmil than Renfroe, Trammel is not a bad piece but he has been struggling, maybe a new system will help him resetComment -
JAKEPEAVY21BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2544Renfroe leads MLB outfielders in defensive runs saved, is a way better athlete and way more clutch than Reyes...both have similar power..it was a no brainer which one to keep just my .02Comment -
koz-manSBR Hall of Famer
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#2545Glad to see the Reds on the Move getting Bauer. Instead of selling off pitchers.
Now if they can just score more runs?!?!Comment -
JaimeMiroSBR MVP
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#2547Padres screwed me over big time...Comment -
stevenashModerator
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#2548Thor stays in Queens.
Brewers just moved Aguliar.Comment -
StallionSBR MVP
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#2549Thor will not be traded today, Not after they got Stroman.Comment -
jrgum3SBR Hall of Famer
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#2550As a Giants fan I love what they did by getting rid of Pomenranz and Melancon while also hanging onto Bumgarner. Melancon was a huge bust and way overpaid so getting rid of him was huge imo. I never really liked Pomenranz but he did better in the Giants bullpen and that was enough for the Giants to net the Brewers number 3 prospect for him.Comment -
BarkingToadSBR Hall of Famer
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#2551Why did Marlins trade Zac Gallen? Seems like a great fit for their rebuilding.Comment -
yismanSBR Aristocracy
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#2552marlins have a lot of pitching
I can't believe Oakland gave up a good prospect for Tanner Roark, who is trash. Also can't believe Atlanta agreed to take Melancon's 18 million.
If Melancon was a FA, no team would give him that money, so why the hell would Atlanta take it in a trade?[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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BigSpoonSBR MVP
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#2553Astros mean business, Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers asleep on deadline day.Comment -
Otters27BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2554Cubs almost blew it. Tomorrows game for 1st placeComment -
batt33SBR Hall of Famer
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#2555As a Giants fan I love what they did by getting rid of Pomenranz and Melancon while also hanging onto Bumgarner. Melancon was a huge bust and way overpaid so getting rid of him was huge imo. I never really liked Pomenranz but he did better in the Giants bullpen and that was enough for the Giants to net the Brewers number 3 prospect for him.Comment
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