NFL Week 1 Lines are Now Up (Totals Too)

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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    NFL Week 1 Lines are Now Up (Totals Too)
    The draft is still one week away but so what!

    Courtesy of Westgate Superbook:

    Thursday, September 10, 2015

    STEELERS
    PATRIOTS -6, 53

    Sunday, September 13, 2015


    PACKERS -4, 50
    BEARS

    CHIEFS
    TEXANS -1.5, 43

    BROWNS
    JETS -1, 41

    COLTS -3 EVEN, 48
    BILLS

    DOLPHINS -2.5, 44.5
    REDSKINS

    PANTHERS -4, 43.5
    JAGUARS

    SEAHAWKS -3.5, 44
    RAMS

    SAINTS
    CARDINALS -2.5, 48

    LIONS
    CHARGERS -2, 46.5

    TITANS
    BUCS -3, 42.5

    BENGALS -3, 44.5
    RAIDERS

    RAVENS
    BRONCOS -4, 53

    GIANTS
    COWBOYS -5.5, 50

    Monday, September 14, 2015

    EAGLES -1.5, 53.5
    FALCONS

    VIKINGS
    49ERS -3.5, 42
  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #2
    Panthers -4 is a license to print money.

    Jaguars may go 0-16
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    • Hu$tle
      SBR MVP
      • 03-31-15
      • 1365

      #3
      By the time we all go to bet them add/sub 2/3
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      • daneblazer
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        • 09-14-08
        • 27861

        #4
        Vikings
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        • TheMoneyShot
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          • 02-14-07
          • 28672

          #5
          I'm looking at the Lions schedule... and I keep forgetting they're better than before... but damn. I'm marking most of these games down as losses.
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #6
            Originally posted by Hu$tle
            By the time we all go to bet them add/sub 2/3
            Precisely the reason why NOW may be the best time to find value. It looks like BetOnLine cloned these lines off shore, it would be nice if the major books follow suit.
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            • Hu$tle
              SBR MVP
              • 03-31-15
              • 1365

              #7
              Eh. If you think youre a decent bettor you can get 5 games in by the time 1 of those cash. Never bet on something longer than a month...better return elsewhere
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              • Al Masters
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 04-29-06
                • 6940

                #8
                Originally posted by LT Profits
                Precisely the reason why NOW may be the best time to find value. It looks like BetOnLine cloned these lines off shore, it would be nice if the major books follow suit.

                With all due respect how in the world can you find any sort of value in.

                1)putting your money to sleep for 6 months.
                2)betting a team when no one knows the exact make up of the team.
                3)so i bet a game today.. april 22nd...how can you take injuries,trades,roster moves,weather into account?
                you can't so it becomes nothing more then a guess, not even a educated guess..just a guess.

                Sounds much more like degenerate gambling as opposed to any sort of value.
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                • Al Masters
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-29-06
                  • 6940

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                  Precisely the reason why NOW ​may be the best time to find value. It looks like BetOnLine cloned these lines off shore, it would be nice if the major books follow suit.
                  just as easy to find yourself on the wrong side of the line movement come game time 6 months later.

                  no value.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    Why would anyone Bet these games now?
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                    • Hu$tle
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-31-15
                      • 1365

                      #11
                      LT works for the books he wants us to lose
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                      • Al Masters
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-29-06
                        • 6940

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        Panthers -4 is a license to print money.

                        Please tell me you're joking!

                        you've been spending to much time in Seaweeds threads.
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                        • Al Masters
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-29-06
                          • 6940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Why would anyone Bet these games now?
                          According to LT(who i respect) value.

                          otherwise no reason whats so ever... degenerate nonsense imo.
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                          • slacker00
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-06-05
                            • 12262

                            #14
                            Call me crazy, but every dog looks like great value. AZ -2' hosting a distmantled NO is the only fav I like.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              I would think the only reason if you're going to bet the other side and get a nice middle closer to game time
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                              • Huego
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 01-23-11
                                • 265

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Al Masters
                                With all due respect how in the world can you find any sort of value in.

                                1)putting your money to sleep for 6 months.
                                2)betting a team when no one knows the exact make up of the team.
                                3)so i bet a game today.. april 22nd...how can you take injuries,trades,roster moves,weather into account?
                                you can't so it becomes nothing more then a guess, not even a educated guess..just a guess.


                                Sounds much more like degenerate gambling as opposed to any sort of value.
                                the books are exposed to the same exact uncertainties as the bettor is. maybe a key injury will happen in your favor instead of against?

                                every year i make some week 1 bets around June/July. the lines are really soft. i remember a few years ago I took a home team at -6 months before opening week. by kickoff, the line was -11.
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                                • Kermit
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                                  • 09-27-10
                                  • 32555

                                  #17
                                  Eagles are favored?
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                                  • Wrigley
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-28-07
                                    • 7268

                                    #18
                                    Vikings +3 and ML
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                                    • slacker00
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-06-05
                                      • 12262

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Huego
                                      the books are exposed to the same exact uncertainties as the bettor is. maybe a key injury will happen in your favor instead of against?

                                      every year i make some week 1 bets around June/July. the lines are really soft. i remember a few years ago I took a home team at -6 months before opening week. by kickoff, the line was -11.
                                      I'm curious what game that was. Sorta hard to search for line movement in my database, best I could find was KC@BAL week 1 2009 where line moved from BAL-9 to Bal-13 when Cassel was out due to a sprained MCL.
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82835

                                        #20
                                        Tie your money for 6 months in NFL is pure value..meaning you won't lose it on NBA playoffs and MLB. LT is a genius.
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                                        • mr. leisure
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-29-08
                                          • 17507

                                          #21
                                          The jets at home -1 against the browns
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                                          • Huego
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 01-23-11
                                            • 265

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by slacker00
                                            I'm curious what game that was. Sorta hard to search for line movement in my database, best I could find was KC@BAL week 1 2009 where line moved from BAL-9 to Bal-13 when Cassel was out due to a sprained MCL.
                                            I believe it was 2012 season miami @ houston.
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                                            • slacker00
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-06-05
                                              • 12262

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Huego
                                              I believe it was 2012 season miami @ houston.
                                              I see it now. Opened HOU -6' and closed HOU -13. I'm not sure why it moved so far, Tannehill's first start I guess.
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                                              • slacker00
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-06-05
                                                • 12262

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                I'm looking at the Lions schedule... and I keep forgetting they're better than before... but damn. I'm marking most of these games down as losses.
                                                Yes, the NFC North in general will be tested against the NFC West and AFC West. No easy matchups anywhere there.

                                                For Det, Week 1 @SD is a tough draw both teams looking to take that next step someone has to lose. Week 2 @MIN, minny also trying to take that next step, nothing given in that road division game. Week 3 DET hosting Peyton on SNF is no easy out. Week 4 @SEA and DET might still be looking for their first win. Then they get AZ,CHI,MIN at home, probably find a win in there somewhere, but I could easily see DET way below .500 right out of the gate. Not really any easy games for DET at all. Even hosting OAK before PHI on Thanksgiving day, nothing would surprise me in those two games.
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                                                • Harry N. Lloyd
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-26-08
                                                  • 4810

                                                  #25
                                                  Gimme the Vikes +3.5. The Niners have regressed so far so fast that it's hard to believe.
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                                                  • Otters27
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 07-14-07
                                                    • 30759

                                                    #26
                                                    Not really thinking about NFL right now but those are some pretty tight lines
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                                                    • yisman
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                      • 75682

                                                      #27
                                                      who here has access to Westgate?
                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                      [/quote]

                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by yisman
                                                        who here has access to Westgate?
                                                        BetOnLine cloned the lines right away and lines are now up at 5 Dimes and Heritage.
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                                                        • Slanina
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-21-09
                                                          • 3827

                                                          #29
                                                          Talk about getting stale lines. Yeah Buddy!
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                                                          • mpaschal34
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-04-13
                                                            • 12087

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mr. leisure
                                                            The jets at home -1 against the browns
                                                            This is the one line that sticks out the most to me.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              I love how guys think a line sticks out this early
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                                                              • LordVodka
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-17-09
                                                                • 5206

                                                                #32
                                                                Would not bet anything right now.
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                                                                • Wrigley
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-28-07
                                                                  • 7268

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Also Pat-6 line is to low
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                                                                  • Grits n' Gravy
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 13024

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by yisman
                                                                    who here has access to Westgate?
                                                                    What do you need there yis? Can shoot a text to a guy that works there.
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                                                                    • slacker00
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-06-05
                                                                      • 12262

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Wrigley
                                                                      Also Pat-6 line is to low
                                                                      I agree, Pats -3' is probably more realistic. Typical over-hype the SB champs get early every year.
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