Patriots' Trick Play That Got Harbaugh Mad

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  • Double Bogey
    SBR MVP
    • 07-24-10
    • 1465

    #71
    People are forgetting the ineligible guy cannot go down field and run fake routes. Just because someone is unprepared for something, doesn't make it cheap. It's smart. Taking your agreement further, should all trick plays be banned? After all a trick play is deceiving the defense, which seems to be the problem for some.
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    • ThaTopMoron
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 04-30-10
      • 27020

      #72
      Originally posted by Double Bogey
      Why is it not cheap to announce a tackle eligible. It's the same thing, but I don't hear anyone saying that's cheating.
      that's usually in the redzone, actually usually inside the 10 yard line. and teams usually don't snap it as fast as possible in those situations. trust me, I was in Indy vs Pats this year when LT Anthony Castonzo caught a TD pass!
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      • Grits n' Gravy
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        • 06-10-10
        • 13024

        #73
        Waaahhh. Harbaraugh is a whiny bitch. You lost. Move on and enjoy your winter.
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        • swordsandtequila
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-23-12
          • 9757

          #74
          Originally posted by BriGuy
          Like I said 3 times now: you're making sh*t up.
          Well since you asked, OK.

          NFL rules, Section 3, Article 1 - Reporting Change of Position:

          "An offensive player wearing the number of an ineligible pass receiver (50–79 and 90–99) is permitted to line up in
          the position of an eligible pass receiver (1–49 and 80–89), and an offensive player wearing the number of an eligible pass
          receiver is permitted to line up in the position of an ineligible pass receiver, provided that he immediately reports the
          change in his eligibility status to the Referee, who will inform the defensive team.


          He must participate in such eligible or ineligible position as long as he is continuously in the game, but prior to each play he
          must again report his status to the Referee, who will inform the defensive team. The game clock shall not be stopped, and
          the ball shall not be put in play until the Referee takes his normal position."

          Please show me the part where it says this is considered a substitution and the defense has to be given time to adjust. All is says it the ref has to be given time to get in position. It doesn't say a single word about giving the defense time to substitute.
          Originally posted by Double Bogey
          I don't see how it's different than announcing a player is eligible. As long as they announced the player number as ineligible, it's all on the defense to figure it out. To suggest that a defense should be given extra time to line up their defense is dumb. That's like saying the play should be held up if the defense gets out of their huddle too slow to line up.
          The key word is "immediately", i.e. when player enters the game, as what happens on tackle eligible plays. Not when player is leaving the huddle, just prior to the snap. The onus was on the referee to wait before taking his normal position. Like it or not, that's what upset Harbaugh.
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          • Double Bogey
            SBR MVP
            • 07-24-10
            • 1465

            #75
            According to the wording, he did just that. Informed the referee immediately before lining up. Seen it done the exact same way hundreds of times on tackle eligible. Nobody bitches about that because it's done all the time. It's really the same thing as evidenced by them being linked in the rule book.
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            • sneakerhead
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-14-10
              • 7727

              #76
              Patriots haters just complaining.
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              • Otters27
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-14-07
                • 30759

                #77
                I hate the PATS. Broncos would have played better if the Patriots would have lost. Pats vs Seahaks in superbowl
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                • Cross
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-15-11
                  • 5777

                  #78
                  Hear aught is such a cry baby.
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                  • Luckycharms2012
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-07-12
                    • 2422

                    #79
                    Bellichick will do whatever possible to win. He will exploit any rule, any weakness, anything he can get away with. Harbaugh should have called a timeout and prepared the D for what was happening. It's not against the rules so what's complaining gonna do?
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                    • BeanTownClown88
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-08-13
                      • 1961

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Luckycharms2012
                      Bellichick will do whatever possible to win. He will exploit any rule, any weakness, anything he can get away with. Harbaugh should have called a timeout and prepared the D for what was happening. It's not against the rules so what's complaining gonna do?

                      Can't imagine a team owner giving a coach $10 million and saying go out there and win..but don't try and do all that you can do to win, take a loss if you don't feel comfortable with the rules that the NFL has put in place for all the teams to abide by
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                      • MikeTizzy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-09-12
                        • 1192

                        #81
                        way to go belichick! and im in for the pts
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                        • Cross
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-15-11
                          • 5777

                          #82
                          Trying to decide which brother sucks the most.
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                          • Grits n' Gravy
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 13024

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Cross
                            Trying to decide which brother sucks the most.
                            Must've been an annoying household with those 2 shits crying about stuff all the time.
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                            • jizay
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-07-09
                              • 975

                              #84
                              Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                              The key word is "immediately", i.e. when player enters the game, as what happens on tackle eligible plays. Not when player is leaving the huddle, just prior to the snap. The onus was on the referee to wait before taking his normal position. Like it or not, that's what upset Harbaugh.
                              Spot on. League changed the rule today. That was completely predictable.
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #85
                                Originally posted by jizay
                                Spot on. League changed the rule today. That was completely predictable.
                                Yes, here are all the rule changes that passed on Wednesday:

                                The Baltimore Ravens ultimately got their wish, and the rules regarding ineligible receivers has been tweaked.
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                                • Cross
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-15-11
                                  • 5777

                                  #86
                                  Maybe he can teach it to the wolverines
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                                  • Auto Donk
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-03-13
                                    • 43558

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Cross
                                    Maybe he can teach it to the wolverines
                                    I don't think hugh jackman is fit for that play
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                                    • Otters27
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 07-14-07
                                      • 30759

                                      #88
                                      Looked at this play even deeper. Surprised teams don't do things like this more often. Although teams now will look for these types of formations
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                                      • Hankodetanko
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 03-29-15
                                        • 3

                                        #89
                                        It wasn't belichick or mcdaniels. Ernie Adams is the genius of the pats organization who feeds Belichick information.
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                                        • swordsandtequila
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-23-12
                                          • 9757

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                          Read. Didn't say it was against the rules. Wanna bet there's a change next year?
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                                          • KiDBaZkiT
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-20-09
                                            • 14962

                                            #91
                                            LT, ill wire you a $100 bucks to stop posting for 2 days, no shit.
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                                            • dfish
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-17-10
                                              • 2730

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by Hankodetanko
                                              It wasn't belichick or mcdaniels. Ernie Adams is the genius of the pats organization who feeds Belichick information.
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                                              • Wrigley
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 12-28-07
                                                • 7268

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                                                LT, ill wire you a $100 bucks to stop posting for 2 days, no shit.
                                                LT is a must read id go through withdrawls if he left for 2 days
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                                                • BriGuy
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-06-11
                                                  • 1556

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                  Yes, here are all the rule changes that passed on Wednesday:

                                                  http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/3/2...avens-patriots
                                                  Yes the whiny little crybaby bitch Harbaugh got his way. What a bleeping pu$$y. I would be humiliated to be a Ravens fan right now.
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                                                  • Robber
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-21-09
                                                    • 6432

                                                    #95
                                                    Patriots have been doing shady shit since belicheat arrived
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                                                    • Grits n' Gravy
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 13024

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by Robber
                                                      Patriots have been doing shady shit since belicheat arrived
                                                      Every team looks for advantages. Very few plays are surprises anymore. You can know what play is coming but you still have to stop it.

                                                      and Adams is some kind of football illuminati. Nobody knows much about him yet he exists and is involved in just about every aspect of Pats.
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                                                      • Robber
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 10-21-09
                                                        • 6432

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                        Every team looks for advantages. Very few plays are surprises anymore. You can know what play is coming but you still have to stop it.

                                                        and Adams is some kind of football illuminati. Nobody knows much about him yet he exists and is involved in just about every aspect of Pats.
                                                        Adams is the designated head of the department of cheating
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