Mel Kiper: Manziel is the Consensus #1 QB

[Wojo]

Maybe Mel Kiper will be more correct on his love for Johnny Football as compared to his love for Tim (no longer in the NFL) Tebow.

Kiper is a joke.

And a jerk

[shaunovery]

Cant see jonny football going number1

[MikeTizzy]

entertainment, nothin but that. they love to give u plots and drama.

[LT Profits]

There is a lot of misinterpretation going on here. It is not Kiper's OPINION that Manziel is the #1 QB (although it might be, but that's not what we are talking about). As the thread title says, Kiper said that Manziel is the CONSENSUS #1 QB, meaning that of all the NFL executives he has had contact with, the majority of them have Manziel as the top QB.

[broadway6]

Hoping Houston passes so Rams can fleece Browns for all their picks.

[BigSpoon]

Houston skipped over Vince Young in 2006

They need to repeat history and take the DE and pass on the QB.

[Big Bear]

Houston should trade down. Manziel is not nearly as good as the Texas homers make him out to be. Clowney is a head case who is also suseptable to injuries. He plays when he wants to play. Neither player meits a #1 pick. Let some dumb team like Cleveland pick one of these guys up.

agree on Manziel but Clowney is a beast. All the great ones are headcases. Remember how crazy Lawrence Taylor and Bill Romanowski were?

It just takes the right group of teammates and coach to keep him focused.

[Cross]

I would take Teddy b all the way!

[Da Manster!]

There is a lot of misinterpretation going on here. It is not Kiper's OPINION that Manziel is the #1 QB (although it might be, but that's not what we are talking about). As the thread title says, Kiper said that Manziel is the CONSENSUS #1 QB, meaning that of all the NFL executives he has had contact with, the majority of them have Manziel as the top QB.

wrong LT Profits...Manziel is also #1 on Kiper's Big Board and Mock drafts meaning that he also is very high on the kid...and these are Kipers opinion and research that don't have anything to do with how other NFL executives feel about him.

[LT Profits]

wrong LT Profits...Manziel is also #1 on Kiper's Big Board and Mock drafts meaning that he also is very high on the kid...and these are Kipers opinion and research that don't have anything to do with how other NFL executives feel about him.

OK that's fine, so he has Manziel #1 too. But that is beside the point, since he was talking about the consensus top QB and not necessarily his own.

[slacker00]

There is a lot of misinterpretation going on here. It is not Kiper's OPINION that Manziel is the #1 QB (although it might be, but that's not what we are talking about). As the thread title says, Kiper said that Manziel is the CONSENSUS #1 QB, meaning that of all the NFL executives he has had contact with, the majority of them have Manziel as the top QB.

I don't believe NFL GMs are telling Mel Kiper anything useful, if anything at all. At best, it's misinformation.

[LT Profits]

On a conference call on Thursday, ESPN's Mel Kiper disclosed Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel is the "consensus" No. 1 QB in NFL circles.

"For Cleveland, to see Manziel there would be a surprise to me," Kiper said. "When you talk to people in the league, he's the consensus No. 1 QB." We are a bit surprised by the news, since there are very few "consensus" top players at each position. We still would not be surprised to see Blake Bortles at No. 1 overall.

Feb 6 - 10:13 AM ET

[Vinnie Paz]

Lol fkn kiper had manziel #3 not too long ago now he talks with scouts and gets their word he switches up

His mock drafts are actually accurate most times cause he talks with league associates and gets their word on who certain teams like and puts them in his mocks. Wants to be that "see! Told ya so!" guy after the draft lol

[bobby heenan]

Lol fkn kiper had manziel #3 not too long ago now he talks with scouts and gets their word he switches up

His mock drafts are actually accurate most times cause he talks with league associates and gets their word on who certain teams like and puts them in his mocks. Wants to be that "see! Told ya so!" guy after the draft lol

who wouldnt wanna be the "told ya so" guy....i mean.....granted mel kiper has a better chance at being right than most people because of connections....but wouldnt we all like to put a play on the board and say "told you so" after the play wins??

mel isnt perfect....but nobody would be if they were analyzing every team and their needs....and trying to put prospects in line with that and make predictions......guy has alot of connections...is relevant...has been doing this for 30 years.....made a nice living off of doing something he loves....guy carved out a nice niche starting at a time when this thing wasnt as popular as it is now

[SBR_John]

On a conference call on Thursday, ESPN's Mel Kiper disclosed Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel is the "consensus" No. 1 QB in NFL circles.

"For Cleveland, to see Manziel there would be a surprise to me," Kiper said. "When you talk to people in the league, he's the consensus No. 1 QB." We are a bit surprised by the news, since there are very few "consensus" top players at each position. We still would not be surprised to see Blake Bortles at No. 1 overall.

Feb 6 - 10:13 AM ET

I sure as heck would. Just have to call BS on that. Mel is relevant and top dog but he is selling snake oil with that comment.

[broadway6]

On a conference call on Thursday, ESPN's Mel Kiper disclosed Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel is the "consensus" No. 1 QB in NFL circles.

"For Cleveland, to see Manziel there would be a surprise to me," Kiper said. "When you talk to people in the league, he's the consensus No. 1 QB." We are a bit surprised by the news, since there are very few "consensus" top players at each position. We still would not be surprised to see Blake Bortles at No. 1 overall.

Feb 6 - 10:13 AM ET

I would draft Blake Bortles' girl friend #1.

[jjgold]

Dallas should give up Romo to Texans and then draft Johnny Football

Dallas whether they win or lose makes a fortune off the kid

[Eddy Munny]

Dallas should give up Romo to Texans and then draft Johnny Football

Dallas whether they win or lose makes a fortune off the kid

I'm sure Dallas would do this in a heartbeat if it was at all feasible. But Romo will be 34 this year, no way Houston would entertain the idea of dealing the top pick for a guy nearing the homestretch.

[LT Profits]

I sure as heck would. Just have to call BS on that. Mel is relevant and top dog but he is selling snake oil with that comment.

I should have specified the commentary not in quotes is from Rotoworld, they were the ones "a bit surprised by the news". And it has been said previously that Coach O'Brien loves Bortles and he questions Manziel's work ethic.

[Cross]

Maybe Johnny as a Vike?

[Grits n' Gravy]

Kiper thinks Tommy Rees is a sleeper for some team too.

[EmpireMaker]

I don't think it is clear at all which of the 3 is any better than the others and Clowney has to be one of the first 5 picks also.

[bobby heenan]

I don't think it is clear at all which of the 3 is any better than the others and Clowney has to be one of the first 5 picks also.

i doubt clowney makes it passed 2.....if the texans go the qb route someone will make a move with st louis to get him

[Smoke]

Bortles > Manziel

[cash$bro91]

Kiper thinks Tommy Rees is a sleeper for some team too.

Tommy Rees

[Grits n' Gravy]

Bortles > Manziel

Nobody named Blake Bortles will ever in the history of the world become a successful quarterback in the NFL. He's no better than Ponder or Gabbert.

[MikeTizzy]

hmmm this draft is going to be interesting, but the scouts will evaluate and Manziel will be dynamic when he gets to the pros. Its just a matter of system and coaching him to the next lvl.

[4TH AND STUPID]

houston should draft clowney and pick up michael vick in free agency.

also they should pick up jeremy maclin, and draft a running back in the second round.



vick knows maclin and this would make him comfortable, and along with andre johnson he'd have the weapons he needs. houstons defense would be stellar.

its a gamble for a year if vick can stay healthy, but it would make the texans an immediate contender.

[EmpireMaker]

i doubt clowney makes it passed 2.....if the texans go the qb route someone will make a move with st louis to get him

He shouldn't make it past number 2 but there is going to be a quarterback frenzy a few teams might be willing to trade up to get one of the big 3 QB's in the top three picks.

[reigle9]

OB will draft the best QB. Simple as that.

[reigle9]

I sure as heck would.

Then you're ignorant. OB saw Bortles up close this year and he's the best passer in the Draft.

[EmpireMaker]

O'Brien will draft the quarterback he thinks is the best, only question is which one ???

[Otters27]

Heard yesterday on radio that wade phillips didn't get houston job because he wanted to take MAnziel #1

[EmpireMaker]

Here is an ESPN fan poll

Which 2014 QB prospect will have the best career in the NFL?

Johnny Manziel
26%

Teddy Bridgewater
32%

Blake Bortles
29%

Derek Carr
13%


Total Votes: 2,906

[LT Profits]

O'Brien will draft the quarterback he thinks is the best, only question is which one ???

As mentioned several times, O'Brien love Bortles. And based on what Otters27 posted in Post #103, management may not disagree. If you find a site offering futures on who the #1 pick will be and Bortles is a nice price, he is worth a pop.