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  • onlooker
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    • 08-10-05
    • 36572

    #1
    Matt Ryan or Josh Freeman
    Week 15.

    Here is why I'm asking.

    QB scoring:
    1 point per completion.
    -0.5 point per incompletion.
    6 points per TD.

    WR/RB/TE scoring:
    1 point per reception.
    6 points per TD.

    My opponent has these Buccs players going.

    Mike Williams.
    Dallas Clark.
    Doug Martin.

    If I start Josh Freeman, I could be cancelling out a lot of his reception points, and TD's if any of his Buccs players get any threw the air.

    Josh Freeman also lit up the Saints in week 7 with 420 yards, 3 TD's and no INT's.

    Thoughts?
  • makaveli66
    SBR MVP
    • 03-13-10
    • 1850

    #2
    Josh Freeman is the correct pick.
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    • Speedy88
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-19-11
      • 11717

      #3
      Coin flip. That decision would kill me. I'd probably lean Freeman, but only because of the matchup.

      If Roddy doesn't play, go Freeman for sure.
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      • RealMadrid
        SBR MVP
        • 09-06-10
        • 1354

        #4
        agree...Josh Freeman is the correct selection.
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #5
          Interesting conundrum. Under normal circumstances Ryan would be the obvious pick simply because he is the better QB and he has a nice matchup with the Giants secondary having issues. Honestly I never even consider my opponent's lineup when I set mine and only worry about maximizing my own points. Especially since your never know when your opponent will make lineup changes. As long as Ryan scores more points than Freeman, then cancelling out your opponents receivers becomes meaningless.
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          • Stack-N-Chips
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-05-12
            • 144

            #6
            Freeman, Saints Defense sucks... I am unloading on the OVER in that game
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            • GamblerSpirit
              SBR MVP
              • 11-18-11
              • 4085

              #7
              Freeman will have a good game. Giants D>Saints D
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              • Straight Cash
                SBR MVP
                • 11-20-09
                • 2202

                #8
                Hmm, my opponent has to make this same choice...he's going with Freeman, both are solid options though.
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                • Otters27
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                  • 07-14-07
                  • 30759

                  #9
                  Go with Ryan. he has been struggling lately but will have a big day
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                  • will2survive
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-26-09
                    • 8099

                    #10
                    I would go with Ryan. He's efficient and has plenty of targets that have proven themselves to be consistent and have also had breakout games. That said, it's a tough decision.
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                    • Mikail
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-19-09
                      • 21689

                      #11
                      I'd go with Josh Freeman. GL
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                      • koz-man
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-21-08
                        • 7102

                        #12
                        Freeman is the correct pick in this situation.
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                        • PAULYPOKER
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-06-08
                          • 36581

                          #13
                          Matt Ryan

                          Line says it all....................
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                          • ttwarrior1
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 06-23-09
                            • 28456

                            #14
                            ryan
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #15
                              I would go with Freeman due to the matchups. Ryan is also a strong play though.
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #16
                                Like I say every single week, matchups only matter if the two players involved are very close. In this case, Ryan is clearly the better QB and he has a good matchup, so the fact that a lesser QB might have a better matchup should become moot. Otherwise you would start whichever QB is facing the Saints every week.
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                                • zjohnzzz
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-15-10
                                  • 517

                                  #17
                                  ryan
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                                  • Easy-Rider 66
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                                    • 02-14-12
                                    • 36109

                                    #18
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                                    • Mitchell88
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-16-12
                                      • 4334

                                      #19
                                      I would have to say Ryan big statement game after the playoffs last year in ATL they have never let them live that down. Big game for Matty Ice today IMO. good luck
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                                      • yisman
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-01-08
                                        • 75682

                                        #20
                                        Freeman has put up some pretty good numbers this year anyway

                                        NO 30th ranked pass D in NFL according to DVOA
                                        Giants have the 8th best pass D


                                        huge difference
                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                        [/quote]

                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                        • onlooker
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                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 36572

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by yisman
                                          Freeman has put up some pretty good numbers this year anyway

                                          NO 30th ranked pass D in NFL according to DVOA
                                          Giants have the 8th best pass D


                                          huge difference
                                          Yeah. I have had Freeman since week 6, and started him week 7 for Ryan's BYE week. He put up 420 and 3 TD's against the Saints then.

                                          I'm still not sure, since Ryan has got me to this point.
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                                          • Robber
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-21-09
                                            • 6432

                                            #22
                                            I say freeman in dome vs saints

                                            Big #
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                                            • yankeefan1024
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 12-02-12
                                              • 52

                                              #23
                                              im still deciding too and feel the same was as onlooker because Ryan got me here but freeman's got the matchup.
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                                              • yisman
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-01-08
                                                • 75682

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                Like I say every single week, matchups only matter if the two players involved are very close. In this case, Ryan is clearly the better QB and he has a good matchup, so the fact that a lesser QB might have a better matchup should become moot. Otherwise you would start whichever QB is facing the Saints every week.
                                                Ryan is not clearly better. You're acting like this is Brady vs. Dalton or something.

                                                They're pretty similar. Both good fantasy QBs but not great. Ryan is 8th in fantasy points among QBs this season.

                                                They're on the same tier. If they both had similar matchups, I'd lean Ryan, but if one has the clearly better matchup (as is the case here. Giants have a good pass D, Saints have a terrible pass D), I'll go with him.
                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                [/quote]

                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                • k13
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                  • 18104

                                                  #25
                                                  Just pick the opposite of what everyone recommends.
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                                                  • yisman
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-01-08
                                                    • 75682

                                                    #26
                                                    Certainly looks now like Ryan was the correct pick.

                                                    Freeman struggling.
                                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                    [/quote]

                                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                    • PAULYPOKER
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-06-08
                                                      • 36581

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                      Matt Ryan


                                                      Line says it all....................
                                                      Did ya take Ryan?
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                                                      • Speedy88
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-19-11
                                                        • 11717

                                                        #28
                                                        Really hope you went Ryan.
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                                                        • onlooker
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 36572

                                                          #29
                                                          Nope. Went Freeman. Oh well.
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                                                          • Andy117
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-07-10
                                                            • 9511

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by onlooker
                                                            Nope. Went Freeman. Oh well.
                                                            That sucks.
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                                                            • Carseller4
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-22-09
                                                              • 19627

                                                              #31
                                                              Laughing at all the "Saints D Sucks" comments.

                                                              But as a Saints fan, it shocked me also.
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                                                              • ttwarrior1
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 06-23-09
                                                                • 28456

                                                                #32
                                                                i never thought freeman was a good play this week,
                                                                giants have worst secondary in nfl at this point, why why why
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                                                                • onlooker
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 36572

                                                                  #33
                                                                  DX and Tynes putting up a big fat zero didn't help much either.

                                                                  Kinda relieved my season is over, started getting burnt out. Won my buy-in back by winning the regular season. So I broke even. That is why I was able to gamble with Freeman and his better match-up. It just didn't work out. That's Fantasy.
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                                                                  • soccerzyko
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 11-28-11
                                                                    • 493

                                                                    #34
                                                                    That sucks dude. I probably would have played Freeman too, though. Who would have thought his team would have put up a goose egg vs that terrible defense
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                                                                    • yisman
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 09-01-08
                                                                      • 75682

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I used Tynes and Freeman in gridiron challenge

                                                                      I am baffled. Both seemed like excellent plays
                                                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                      [/quote]

                                                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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