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  • HOMAR
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-18-08
    • 123

    #1
    Byu From -2.5 To +2
    well after read some good trheats (THANKS LT) i will go for BYU ML why ? well all the big wnagers are making the line go all the way backward from -2.5 to -1.5 to -1 then to pick and now in some books +2 .. the % still go 70%-30% in favor of BYU but the line not.. as always i go agains the money...so BYU ml.. have my money tonigth...any comments.....
  • mogwai
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-07-07
    • 220

    #2
    It was BYU -3 when I first looked at it on Monday. It is now BYU +2. At first I liked TCU, but now that I have thought about it more, I like BYU. BYU is the better team and they have a lot more riding on the game than TCU. I like them on the moneyline.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #3
      Originally posted by HOMAR
      well after read some good trheats (THANKS LT) i will go for BYU ML why ? well all the big wnagers are making the line go all the way backward from -2.5 to -1.5 to -1 then to pick and now in some books +2 .. the % still go 70%-30% in favor of BYU but the line not.. as always i go agains the money...so BYU ml.. have my money tonigth...any comments.....
      It seems you are misinterpretting my threads.

      TCU is the play here based on reverse line movement.
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      • Mic Lowrey
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-09-08
        • 141

        #4
        Originally posted by LT Profits
        It seems you are misinterpretting my threads.

        TCU is the play here based on reverse line movement.
        Exactly - i hate betting on this situation bc i like BYU in it but because the way the line moved - i am going with TCU. FIrst off the majority is betting on byu but the line is still moving in that direction??? that means all the big money (smart money) is being wagered on TCU - so i will be going that way.

        When a home team is an underdog and by game time is the favorite - u follow that home team ...always go with it...wins at least 75% of the time.
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        • fiveteamer
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-14-08
          • 10805

          #5
          This would be free money if these line movments meant anything.

          Late money, early money, it's all bullshit.
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          • Brock Landers
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 06-30-08
            • 45359

            #6
            Originally posted by fiveteamer
            This would be free money if these line movments meant anything.

            Late money, early money, it's all bullshit.
            totally agree, has anyone WATCHED BYU or TCU play?!

            There isn't even any comparison, BYU is much the best here, and they are getting points.

            My play and i advocate EVERYONE who cares to listen, to play BYU on the ML, thats at worst even money, and likely + money before the game kicks off!
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            • strictlywinners
              Restricted User
              • 07-17-07
              • 3377

              #7
              Yes you aren't understanding what LT, is saying. The consensus of the public is on BYU about 70% is on them. But the line is moving heavily in favor of TCU. That means the 30% that are on TCU are putting alot more money per wager on them. Remember 1 million 100 dollar wagers is not them same as 1 thousand 10,000 dollar wagers. You want to go with the sharps on this one and TCU.
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              • fiveteamer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-14-08
                • 10805

                #8
                Originally posted by strictlywinners
                Yes you aren't understanding what LT, is saying. The consensus of the public is on BYU about 70% is on them. But the line is moving heavily in favor of TCU. That means the 30% that are on TCU are putting alot more money per wager on them. Remember 1 million 100 dollar wagers is not them same as 1 thousand 10,000 dollar wagers. You want to go with the sharps on this one and TCU.
                Following this so called "sharp" money is a winning trend, then?
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                • Mic Lowrey
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-09-08
                  • 141

                  #9
                  Originally posted by strictlywinners
                  Yes you aren't understanding what LT, is saying. The consensus of the public is on BYU about 70% is on them. But the line is moving heavily in favor of TCU. That means the 30% that are on TCU are putting alot more money per wager on them. Remember 1 million 100 dollar wagers is not them same as 1 thousand 10,000 dollar wagers. You want to go with the sharps on this one and TCU.
                  Exactly my point in which i said earlier -but i think you helped them out with the numbers...

                  Dont you think its weird that % of people is betting byu but yet the line is moving really heavily on TCU?

                  that must mean the money is big time on TCU and yes 5teamer - the smart money is always the winning trend. smart money = big money.

                  Also, betting against the public usually has a winning record. or else the bookies would be out a lot faster.
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                  • apk2k6
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-09-08
                    • 494

                    #10
                    Exactly, reverse line movement for the win. Take TCU
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                    • firedawg
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 10-08-08
                      • 39219

                      #11
                      line with clemson/wake did same thing last week
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Originally posted by fiveteamer
                        Following this so called "sharp" money is a winning trend, then?
                        Yes, in every sport. Read my article on NFL page.
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                        • smitch124
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-19-08
                          • 12566

                          #13
                          LT do you feel that betting this trend is still a postive long term proposition even if you take the closing number?
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                          • Mic Lowrey
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-09-08
                            • 141

                            #14
                            Originally posted by firedawg
                            line with clemson/wake did same thing last week
                            yup it did firedawg and won off of it.

                            And its always a positive long term trend. Thats why people always look out for the way the line moves.
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                            • HOMAR
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 04-18-08
                              • 123

                              #15
                              WELL GUYS .you have alot more experince that me in wanger world so ..i understand what LT said about sharp money....but my teory its that o always play agains the money...if the % of the public ist more then 70% and the line dont move , my money will be on the 30% but if the % stay the same after the line move at least 1 pt.. i will be whit the 70% . why? its better pay 7 wangers of 1 usd that 3 of 10 usd. i will play vs the money....
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #16
                                Originally posted by smitch124
                                LT do you feel that betting this trend is still a postive long term proposition even if you take the closing number?
                                Maybe, but ideally, you'd want to beat the closing number.
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                                • fiveteamer
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-14-08
                                  • 10805

                                  #17
                                  I'll just say TCU looked disgusting against CSU last week.

                                  But, maybe they were looking ahead.
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                                  • abc
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-30-08
                                    • 240

                                    #18
                                    I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex and we haven't seen weather this cold in months. We dropped from the high 80s/low 90s yesterday to 60ish last night. It's in the 60s right now, and will be even colder tonight. There's a slight hint of wind and the rain has stopped. TCU isn't used to this cold while BYU is. It's been cold for awhile in Utah. Now, you guys might not think 60s is anything, but here in Texas it is. Today was the first day we've needed sweaters in months and people have already been starting to get sick. We're used to having 90 degree weather til November, and the weather changed drastically in a matter of hours. 25-30 degree change in a few hours will be hard on us.
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                                    • Crayzee
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 4945

                                      #19
                                      with the line switch i will happily bet on byu + points
                                      byu was already my play at pickem (but not bet yet)
                                      because i always take road team at pick-em
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                                      • hoopster42
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 02-12-08
                                        • 6099

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by abc
                                        I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth metroplex and we haven't seen weather this cold in months. We dropped from the high 80s/low 90s yesterday to 60ish last night. It's in the 60s right now, and will be even colder tonight. There's a slight hint of wind and the rain has stopped. TCU isn't used to this cold while BYU is. It's been cold for awhile in Utah. Now, you guys might not think 60s is anything, but here in Texas it is. Today was the first day we've needed sweaters in months and people have already been starting to get sick. We're used to having 90 degree weather til November, and the weather changed drastically in a matter of hours. 25-30 degree change in a few hours will be hard on us.
                                        this is great news for tcu. tcu is a running team that plays hard nosed defense. byu is a passing offense that relies on timing and wr's making catches. in cold weather, the ball gets much harder and heavier and qbs have a tougher time throwing it, and wr's have a tougher time catching it.

                                        you have it wrong here. colder weather favors tcu
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                                        • Kingctb27
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-16-08
                                          • 2258

                                          #21
                                          TCU's horrid secondary doesn't care about this line movement. Either way, they will get lit up like a fukkin Christmas tree.
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                                          • Kingctb27
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-16-08
                                            • 2258

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by hoopster42
                                            this is great news for tcu. tcu is a running team that plays hard nosed defense. byu is a passing offense that relies on timing and wr's making catches. in cold weather, the ball gets much harder and heavier and qbs have a tougher time throwing it, and wr's have a tougher time catching it.

                                            you have it wrong here. colder weather favors tcu
                                            Lol you are really going to say that a team from Utah can't handle some 60 degree weather?

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                                            • L2Gunz
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-23-08
                                              • 2199

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Kingctb27
                                              TCU's horrid secondary doesn't care about this line movement. Either way, they will get lit up like a fukkin Christmas tree.
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                                              • hoopster42
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 02-12-08
                                                • 6099

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Kingctb27
                                                Lol you are really going to say that a team from Utah can't handle some 60 degree weather?

                                                do some research on how byu and utah's offense fare in games where the temp is 60 degrees is lower, they are on the road, and are facing a great defense
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                                                • hoopster42
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 02-12-08
                                                  • 6099

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Kingctb27
                                                  TCU's horrid secondary doesn't care about this line movement. Either way, they will get lit up like a fukkin Christmas tree.
                                                  the only team who threw the ball well against tcu this season was oklahoma, and they throw well on EVERYONE

                                                  tcu's defense can handle byu's wrs more easily than you think
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                                                  • fiveteamer
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-14-08
                                                    • 10805

                                                    #26
                                                    this is a tough game, who knows.

                                                    flip a coin.
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                                                    • hoopster42
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 02-12-08
                                                      • 6099

                                                      #27
                                                      it is a very tough game, but if forced, you pick TCU for 3 reasons:

                                                      1) better defense

                                                      2) at home

                                                      3) revenge angle: tcu is a perennial mid-major power who has been beaten by byu for 2 straight seasons, they REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY want this game


                                                      did i mention that they REALLY want this game and will be fired up
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #28
                                                        When did TCU's secondary become horrid?
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                                                        • Brock Landers
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 06-30-08
                                                          • 45359

                                                          #29
                                                          BYU will win guys, they are the cream of the crop in the MWC and will be undefeated going into the showdown with Utah for a BCS birth, a lot more on the line here that you realize
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            I love BYU here, bettors thinking a small school like this will get beat. I will tell you what BYU is loaded and I think they win easy.
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                                                            • darrell74
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-16-07
                                                              • 14648

                                                              #31
                                                              Last week, Colorodo State toasted the Toadies secondary.
                                                              Problem:
                                                              CSU had a QB with as much accuracy as a blindman in archery.

                                                              This is the Mormons year!!!
                                                              They have way better stats:

                                                              BYU QB Hall 20 Tds, 4 ints
                                                              TCU QB Dalton 0Tds, 2 ints

                                                              Don't be a crackhead and bet against the Mormons.

                                                              Do you want more info???????
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                                                              • LT Profits
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-27-06
                                                                • 90963

                                                                #32
                                                                Can't base anything on CSU game because TCU was already looking to this one.
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                                                                • darrell74
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-16-07
                                                                  • 14648

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Thats absurd

                                                                  Secondary guys don't get toasted because their minds' on next Thursday's game

                                                                  BYU can run, pass, play defense. Mormons toast their secondary

                                                                  Mormons will pick that secondary apart.
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                                                                  • hoopster42
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 02-12-08
                                                                    • 6099

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by darrell74
                                                                    Last week, Colorodo State toasted the Toadies secondary.
                                                                    Problem:
                                                                    CSU had a QB with as much accuracy as a blindman in archery.

                                                                    This is the Mormons year!!!
                                                                    They have way better stats:

                                                                    BYU QB Hall 20 Tds, 4 ints
                                                                    TCU QB Dalton 0Tds, 2 ints

                                                                    Don't be a crackhead and bet against the Mormons.

                                                                    Do you want more info???????
                                                                    tcu held csu under 200 yds total offense, where does the 'toasted' part come ine?
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                                                                    • darrell74
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-16-07
                                                                      • 14648

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The receivers were beating them deep
                                                                      QB didn't have accuracy
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