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  • TPowell
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    • 02-21-08
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    #1
    Why Vegas cleans up tomorrow night (Oregon/Stanford)
    using the common opponents approach, Oregon should be around a touchdown favorite against Stanford on a neutral field. Given Stanford's better ATS, I would give them 2-3 points to balance it out a little. Correct line is Oregon -1 without considering how banged up Stanford is. The wrong team is favored here guys. Books will clean up off the public pounding Stanford until they lose ATS and SU. Oregon wins this game SU and covers. Vegas has thought this all year and I'll stick by them

    Oregon (+3.5)






    Oregon AT Washington (-16.5)
    Washington vs Stanford (-18)

    If the Stanford game was at Washington, Stanford would be -12, compared to Oregon being -16.5


    Oregon vs Washington State (-37.5)
    Stanford at Washington State (-20)

    If the Oregon game was at WSU, Oregon would be -31, compared to Stanford being -20


    Oregon at Colorado (-30.5)
    Stanford vs Colorado (-29)

    If Stanford game was at CU, Stanford would be -23, compared to Oregon being -29



    Oregon at Arizona (-14.5)
    Stanford at Arizona (-9.5)
  • MakeitRain
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    • 10-18-11
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    #2
    I have my delorian set to 88 and i went to the future and I saw Stanford winning by 7. Luck has a great game and there will be alot of smart people making "slight" noise in the stands. Believe me or not but I seent it.
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    • No coincidences
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      #3
      Why would Vegas clean up on a game that's virtually split with the public?
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      • zsr
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        #4
        Everywhere i look the game is 51/49 or 50/50. Vegas wont clean up
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        • TPowell
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          #5
          Public money will pound Stanford tommorow. I wouldn't be surprised for this line to hit -5 or so. I've got 57% on Stanford right now but like I said, it will explode IMO
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          • No coincidences
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            #6
            Originally posted by TPowell
            Public money will pound Stanford tommorow. I wouldn't be surprised for this line to hit -5 or so. I've got 57% on Stanford right now but like I said, it will explode IMO
            74% on the Oregon ML.
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            • zsr
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              #7
              I dont think any of these percentage websites are accurate anyway, but it looks split. No coincidence where are you seeing 74%?
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              • jonathon1995
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                • 10-27-11
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                #8
                Vegas cleans up when its 80/20 like the raiders where last night, not 60/40.
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                • TPowell
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                  #9
                  The titles "Vegas cleans up" is part for the game and part because Vegas has said Oregon is the better team all year but people will ignore that and bet Stanford
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                  • BernardMadoff
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                    • 12-12-09
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                    #10
                    Bro, you going by that to make your bet on Oregon? The oddsmaker factors in lots of things when coming up with that number, it means nothing in this game.
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                    • TPowell
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BernardMadoff
                      Bro, you going by that to make your bet on Oregon? The Oddsmaker factors in lots of things when coming up with that number, it means nothing in this game.

                      means nothing? 4 common opponents is a great reason to make a bet. Stanford has played over the head all year, its pretty obvious. Why don't you tell me a good way to handicap a game then pal. The common opponents theme is one of the better late season betting strategies because power ratings are basically useless and mundane this time of the year
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                      • BernardMadoff
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        means nothing? 4 common opponents is a great reason to make a bet. Stanford has played over the head all year, its pretty obvious. Why don't you tell me a good way to handicap a game then pal. The common opponents theme is one of the better late season betting strategies because power ratings are basically useless and mundane this time of the year
                        Well it means more that Oregon has been overvalued all year, every team that you posted between the two, Oregon played them after they played Stanford, looking at the ATS records tells me Oregon has been overvalued all year and just maybe are being overvalued in this game.
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                        • TPowell
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by BernardMadoff
                          Well it means more that Oregon has been overvalued all year, every team that you posted between the two, Oregon played them after they played Stanford, looking at the ATS records tells me Oregon has been overvalued all year and just maybe are being overvalued in this game.

                          5-3-1 is overvalued?

                          Obviously Stanford is slightly better than books thought but no way in hell the books are off over a field goal on a team like Stanford. As I said, touchdown fave minus that field goal is 4, subtract home field advantage and its around 1. Add in the fact that Oregon is the healthier team and I would put it close to Oregon -3
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                          • BigDofBA
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                            #14
                            Oregon has played one smash mouth team all year and they got destroyed.

                            Give me Stanford.

                            In addittion, I highly doubt the public will be on Stanford. I think the average person thinks Stanford is overrated and Oregon is really good.
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                            • BigDofBA
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                              #15
                              Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I hope Stanford loses because I'm an OU alumni.

                              I feel like Stanford is the main road block from OU controlling their own destiny again. There is no way Boise is going to get into the title game and if Oklahoma defeats an undefeated #2 Oklahoma State team on the road the final game of the year, OU would have the best win out of all of the one loss teams and it would come in the final weekend.

                              Are the pollsters really going to put a one loss Bama team in a title game against LSU win Bama already lost to LSU at home? If Bama can't beat LSU at home, how are they going to beat them in New Orleans. Likewise, Bama's resume isn't exactly all that great. They have two good wins over Penn State and Arkansas and I feel like those teams are vastly overrated.

                              Arkansas keeps coming from way behind to barely beat teams like Ole Miss and Vandy.

                              With that said, I think Stanford runs the table, OU beats OSU, and we have a Stanford/LSU title game. Luck against that LSU defense.
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                              • BernardMadoff
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                                #16
                                Their 5-4 ATS, just hope its a good game.
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                                • PAULYPOKER
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                                  #17
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                                  • BigDofBA
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TPowell
                                    using the common opponents approach, Oregon should be around a touchdown favorite against Stanford on a neutral field.
                                    And this approach sucks imo. OU beat Texas by 40. OU lost to Texas Tech. Texas beat Texas Tech by 40.

                                    Sports are about match ups. Teams match up differently with different opponents. The transitive property usually doesn't work.

                                    Iowa State beat Texas Tech. Are they better than OU?
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                                    • brahmabull117
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                      Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I hope Stanford loses because I'm an OU alumni. I feel like Stanford is the main road block from OU controlling their own destiny again. There is no way Boise is going to get into the title game and if Oklahoma defeats an undefeated #2 Oklahoma State team on the road the final game of the year, OU would have the best win out of all of the one loss teams and it would come in the final weekend. Are the pollsters really going to put a one loss Bama team in a title game against LSU win Bama already lost to LSU at home? If Bama can't beat LSU at home, how are they going to beat them in New Orleans. Likewise, Bama's resume isn't exactly all that great. They have two good wins over Penn State and Arkansas and I feel like those teams are vastly overrated. Arkansas keeps coming from way behind to barely beat teams like Ole Miss and Vandy. With that said, I think Stanford runs the table, OU beats OSU, and we have a Stanford/LSU title game. Luck against that LSU defense.

                                      You think OU has a real chance to go all the way this year brah??


                                      That texas tech loss looks just absolutely horrendous the more and more time goes on... losing at home to a team that got annihilated by ISU. I'll be very very interesting if Oregon wins this week and OU beats OSU



                                      Boise is actually pretty decent in the computer polls - #4. They'll make it to the BCS title game if the voters put/keep them ahead of OU and Bama
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                                      • Albert Pujols
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                        Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I hope Stanford loses because I'm an OU alumni.

                                        I feel like Stanford is the main road block from OU controlling their own destiny again. There is no way Boise is going to get into the title game and if Oklahoma defeats an undefeated #2 Oklahoma State team on the road the final game of the year, OU would have the best win out of all of the one loss teams and it would come in the final weekend.

                                        Are the pollsters really going to put a one loss Bama team in a title game against LSU win Bama already lost to LSU at home? If Bama can't beat LSU at home, how are they going to beat them in New Orleans. Likewise, Bama's resume isn't exactly all that great. They have two good wins over Penn State and Arkansas and I feel like those teams are vastly overrated.

                                        Arkansas keeps cohming from way behind to barely beat teams like Ole Miss and Vandy.

                                        With that said, I think Stanford runs the table, OU beats OSU, and we have a Stanford/LSU title game. Luck against that LSU defense.
                                        With you on Stanford tomorrow but if Oregon wins, I don't see how Oklahoma can get in over Bama.

                                        OU rolls Okie St though.
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                                        • romoney
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                                          #21
                                          Oregon was hanging with LSU for a good while...they just made some mistakes, that couldve turned it the other way..it wasnt a beatdown like everyone says(im an LSU fan) but they never play well in the beginning(Ore).. i think they hit their stride and keep rolling...i keep hearing how LSU destroyed Ore...but they really didnt...just being honest...that game at half could go either way....Oregon is a good team that could match up well with anyone in the country..
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                                          • BigDofBA
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                            You think OU has a real chance to go all the way this year brah?? That texas tech loss looks just absolutely horrendous the more and more time goes on... losing at home to a team that got annihilated by ISU. I'll be very very interesting if Oregon wins this week and OU beats OSU Boise is actually pretty decent in the computer polls - #4. They'll make it to the BCS title game if the voters put/keep them ahead of OU and Bama
                                            Hell no I don't think OU has a chance to go all the way. I just want them to get back in the discussion.

                                            You do realize OU has lost their starting RB and All-American WR (Ryan Broyles) for the year right? I doubt we could win a championship if those guys were still playing.

                                            Likewise, when OU played Texas Tech, we were missing our #1 CB, a starting linebacker, and that was the first game after our starting RB got injured. That being said, it was still a bad loss and OU should have won anyway. A championship team doesn't lose games like that.

                                            LSU is going to win the national championship. Lock it up.

                                            And just hypothetically speaking, how could anyone put Boise in over a good one loss team? Boise has like one win over a team in the top 50. Using my team as an example, would you really put Boise in over a one loss OU team that had wins over three BCS top 20 teams (K-State, Texas, and Oklahoma State) and three other wins against Florida State, Texas A&M, and Mizzou????? I mean come on.

                                            Teams like TCU and San Diego State aren't even as good as the average teams on OU's schedule. TCU lost to SMU, they aren't the same team from the previous two years.

                                            Lots of teams would go undefeated if they had to play a one game schedule like Boise. I think they are a really good team but they are not deserving. If Baylor or Texas A&M had Boise's schedule they would probably go undefeated. Just think about that for a second.
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                                            • Albert Pujols
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                              You think OU has a real chance to go all the way this year brah??


                                              That texas tech loss looks just absolutely horrendous the more and more time goes on... losing at home to a team that got annihilated by ISU. I'll be very very interesting if Oregon wins this week and OU beats OSU



                                              Boise is actually pretty decent in the computer polls - #4. They'll make it to the BCS title game if the voters put/keep them ahead of OU and Bama
                                              I agree OU is finished. You can't put a team that lost as 30 point favorites at home in the title game over Bama. Bama lost in OT to #1 and looked like the better team the entire game. Boise has no shot either in this system.

                                              A playoff would sure be great to see.
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                                              • brahmabull117
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                Hell no I don't think OU has a chance to go all the way. I just want them to get back in the discussion. You do realize OU has lost their starting RB and All-American WR (Ryan Broyles) for the year right? I doubt we could win a championship if those guys were still playing. Likewise, when OU played Texas Tech, we were missing our #1 CB, a starting linebacker, and that was the first game after our starting RB got injured. That being said, it was still a bad loss and OU should have won anyway. A championship team doesn't lose games like that. LSU is going to win the national championship. Lock it up. And just hypothetically speaking, how could anyone put Boise in over a good one loss team? Boise has like one win over a team in the top 50. Using my team as an example, would you really put Boise in over a one loss OU team that had wins over three BCS top 20 teams (K-State, Texas, and Oklahoma State) and three other wins against Florida State, Texas A&M, and Mizzou????? I mean come on. Teams like TCU and San Diego State aren't even as good as the average teams on OU's schedule. TCU lost to SMU, they aren't the same team from the previous two years. Lots of teams would go undefeated if they had to play a one game schedule like Boise. I think they are a really good team but they are not deserving. If Baylor or Texas A&M had Boise's schedule they would probably go undefeated. Just think about that for a second.


                                                With Boise, I throw out all the sht about their schedule this year



                                                this is a team that has gone 6-1 against TCU, Georgia, Oregon, Oklahoma and Virginia tech over the last 3 years or so. We know they that can play with anybody in the country and they deserve a chance for the title if they win out and are the only other undefeated team
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                                                • BigDofBA
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                  With Boise, I throw out all the sht about their schedule this year this is a team that has gone 6-1 against TCU, Georgia, Oregon, Oklahoma and Virginia tech over the last 3 years or so. We know they that can play with anybody in the country and they deserve a chance for the title if they win out and are the only other undefeated team
                                                  It's debatable. Boise can obviously compete in a one game scenario I just don't think they would be as deserving as the other teams based on their resume. In other words, Boise would not be undefeated in the Big 12 or SEC. Let them play Bama, LSU, South Carolina, Florida, etc in consecutive weeks and see how the hold up.

                                                  I honestly think Baylor could go undefeated with their schedule. They would just have to beat Georgia.

                                                  As for Bama, who have the beaten that warrants them at #3??? Arkansas and Penn State are vastly overrated and these teams suck.

                                                  Vandy
                                                  Tennessee
                                                  A down Florida team
                                                  Ole Miss
                                                  Kent State
                                                  North Texas
                                                  etc..

                                                  Likewise, who wants to see Bama/LSU again when LSU already proved they were better on Bama's home field? I sure as hell don't.
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                                                  • brahmabull117
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                    It's debatable. Boise can obviously compete in a one game scenario I just don't think they would be as deserving as the other teams based on their resume. In other words, Boise would not be undefeated in the Big 12 or SEC. Let them play Bama, LSU, South Carolina, Florida, etc in consecutive weeks and see how the hold up. I honestly think Baylor could go undefeated with their schedule. They would just have to beat Georgia. As for Bama, who have the beaten that warrants them at #3??? Arkansas and Penn State are vastly overrated and these teams suck. Vandy Tennessee A down Florida team Ole Miss Kent State North Texas etc.. Likewise, who wants to see Bama/LSU again when LSU already proved they were better on Bama's home field? I sure as hell don't.
                                                    I wouldn't put in a 1 loss OU team over undefeated Boise



                                                    I don't think it matters how good their resume is, they lost at home as 28 point favorites against a team that's no better than Nevada. Can you imagine how if Boise lost at home to nevada when they were 27 point favorites?? They would never be allowed to play in another BCS bowl game for the next 10 years probably



                                                    With that being said, I think Boise could go either undefeated or have 1 loss with Bama's schedule. There's no team on Bama's schedule that can beat Boise outside of LSU (and I don't even know if LSU would win on that blue turf...)
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                                                    • BigDofBA
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                      I wouldn't put in a 1 loss OU team over undefeated Boise I don't think it matters how good their resume is, they lost at home as 28 point favorites against a team that's no better than Nevada. Can you imagine how if Boise lost at home to nevada when they were 27 point favorites?? They would never be allowed to play in another BCS bowl game for the next 10 years probably With that being said, I think Boise could go either undefeated or have 1 loss with Bama's schedule. There's no team on Bama's schedule that can beat Boise outside of LSU (and I don't even know if LSU would win on that blue turf...)
                                                      You bring up good points.

                                                      I don't have a problem with your opinion that Boise should be in over OU. All I will say to that is, part of OU's problem in that game was the fact that they had a lot of injuries. Give Boise a big boy schedule and see if they can stay healthy enough to run through their schedule unblemished.

                                                      You also may be correct about Boise going undefeated or having one loss with Bama's schedule. I would definitely take Boise against Arkansas and Penn St. After that, I have already stated that teams like Vandy, Ole Miss, North Texas, and Kent St. suck. For being in the SEC, Bama has had a pretty easy schedule. Teams like Florida and Tennessee are way down.

                                                      In closing, I wouldn't have a problem with Boise getting in over OU or Bama. I definitely think they should get in over a one loss Bama.
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                                                      • brahmabull117
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                        You bring up good points. I don't have a problem with your opinion that Boise should be in over OU. All I will say to that is, part of OU's problem in that game was the fact that they had a lot of injuries. Give Boise a big boy schedule and see if they can stay healthy enough to run through their schedule unblemished. You also may be correct about Boise going undefeated or having one loss with Bama's schedule. I would definitely take Boise against Arkansas and Penn St. After that, I have already stated that teams like Vandy, Ole Miss, North Texas, and Kent St. suck. For being in the SEC, Bama has had a pretty easy schedule. Teams like Florida and Tennessee are way down. In closing, I wouldn't have a problem with Boise getting in over OU or Bama. I definitely think they should get in over a one loss Bama.


                                                        I just hope we see Boise face Bama this year if Boise doesn't get in to the BCS title game. Utah dominated Bama just a few years ago when Bama was a top 10 team (yet SEC homers act like that game never happened) so I would love to see another mid major team beat an SEC powerhouse like that again
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                                                        • BigDofBA
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                          I just hope we see Boise face Bama this year if Boise doesn't get in to the BCS title game. Utah dominated Bama just a few years ago when Bama was a top 10 team (yet SEC homers act like that game never happened) so I would love to see another mid major team beat an SEC powerhouse like that again
                                                          Agreed. That year was very similar to this this year.

                                                          Bama was undefeated all season, lost one game to Florida, everyone talked about how great they were, etc. Then Utah wiped the floor with them.

                                                          I would love to see a Bama/Boise matchup. We need a playoff.

                                                          LSU/Clemson
                                                          Bama/Boise
                                                          Oklahoma State/Oregon
                                                          Oklahoma/Stanford

                                                          Talk about some great matchups!
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                                                          • Jay2k1civic
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                                                            #30
                                                            LSU destroys Clemson...thats all i have to say
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                                                            • Coach Jake
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by brahmabull117
                                                              With Boise, I throw out all the sht about their schedule this year

                                                              this is a team that has gone 6-1 against TCU, Georgia, Oregon, Oklahoma and Virginia tech over the last 3 years or so. We know they that can play with anybody in the country and they deserve a chance for the title if they win out and are the only other undefeated team
                                                              Get off of Boise's nuts, bro. Boise is putting up a bunch of garbage this year compared to last. Look at their defense....everyone's puttin up points against them and theyve played no-one. State has to play some good opponents for recognition. Theyve played poor all year, and even if they were lucky enough to go undefeated, they wouldnt pass up one of these 1 loss teams. And if they were lucky enough to go to the NT, then they would get lit up like no other. I know Kellen Moore and Chris Peterson more than you, and I gotta say, this is not the same Boise St of the past. Still a good team, but a national contender doesnt give up 5 yards a rush on defense, and Kellen has been struggling without Pettis..If you gonna play these awful opponents then u have to dominate. I think right now an undefeated Houston has a hell of a better chance than Boise.

                                                              And how does their garbage loss to Nevada factor into your little record? They still have no kicker.....This team has way too many holes this year, dude, stop lookin at the past.
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                                                              • Coach Jake
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                                Agreed. That year was very similar to this this year.

                                                                Bama was undefeated all season, lost one game to Florida, everyone talked about how great they were, etc. Then Utah wiped the floor with them.

                                                                I would love to see a Bama/Boise matchup. We need a playoff.

                                                                LSU/Clemson
                                                                Bama/Boise
                                                                Oklahoma State/Oregon
                                                                Oklahoma/Stanford

                                                                Talk about some great matchups!
                                                                Forget playoffs, if anything a +1. You people forget that football is way too physical of a sport and a playoff would only serve these teams with crazy depth. I think a +1 is fine, but any school can go out and schedule a tough game to boost their rank, so if you win out on a crappy schedule and get overlooked, than it serves you right. Get in a tough conference or get more than 1 tough opponent a year.
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                                                                • sandman0713
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  lol @ jake...he gets all heated with his responses. i happen to agree here tho...boise not nearly the team they have been. i have been one of their biggest supporters as far as feeling like they should have a chance...but not this year.

                                                                  as far as the point of this thread tho...i think vegas values stanford more, and i don't really get the other side. i know for a fact that oregon gets more action today...flashy team that scores a lot of points and played in the nc last year. how could anyone actually see stanford being the public fav here? for stanford to be the fav, it tells me vegas feels very certain stanford is more than a td better. any time oregon + points, that ml is getting pounded so big...even i am on it...lol. i think it is a really entertaining and interesting game, and i got the ducks ml for fun...but vegas is clearly saying to me that stanford is 8+ points better than oregon with that spread. guess it just depends how you want to see things.
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                                                                  • brahmabull117
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Coach Jake
                                                                    Get off of Boise's nuts, bro. Boise is putting up a bunch of garbage this year compared to last. Look at their defense....everyone's puttin up points against them and theyve played no-one. State has to play some good opponents for recognition. Theyve played poor all year, and even if they were lucky enough to go undefeated, they wouldnt pass up one of these 1 loss teams. And if they were lucky enough to go to the NT, then they would get lit up like no other. I know Kellen Moore and Chris Peterson more than you, and I gotta say, this is not the same Boise St of the past. Still a good team, but a national contender doesnt give up 5 yards a rush on defense, and Kellen has been struggling without Pettis..If you gonna play these awful opponents then u have to dominate. I think right now an undefeated Houston has a hell of a better chance than Boise.

                                                                    And how does their garbage loss to Nevada factor into your little record? They still have no kicker.....This team has way too many holes this year, dude, stop lookin at the past.

                                                                    1)they've played poor all year?? WTF are you talking about?? They've dominated all the decent teams they've played so far. Just because they beat Air Force by 11 means they're not a good team?? Auburn last year barely beat Kentucky by 3 points for god's sake


                                                                    2)Kellen moore's numbers are about the same as last year



                                                                    3)Everybody's put up points against them?? Nevada and Tulsa are 2 of the better offensive teams in the country and both were basically shutout against Boise until garbage time


                                                                    4)Houston over boise??? Boise would beat Houston by 30 points. For god's sake Houston has won by a combined 5 points against UCLA and LA tech, 2 teams that Boise would beat by about 30 points each
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                                                                    • Serbone
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Your logic escapes me. Vegas cleans up?
                                                                      When some one says something like this, they are usually a greenhorn.
                                                                      Stanford has the better "D" and is a power team, Oregon does not do well against power.
                                                                      It is on natural turf so the little speedsters from Oregon cannot make their sharp cuts.
                                                                      Luck is an NFL ready quarterback, can make all of the throws, deep, mid, and screens, and Oregon "D" is very questionable.
                                                                      Stanford has a big OL and will be able to run, too.
                                                                      Oregon star RB and QB are both a bit dinged, not 100%. Key Stanford WR is out, but they have plenty of weapons.
                                                                      The Pac 10 refs will want to keep Stanford undefeated to get to the BCS Championship game (possible) or at least the # 2 BCS bowl... if Stanford loses, they go down several notches. This is the KEY.
                                                                      Stanford - 3, BIG.
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