BOL to you Machine. There is a reason that the BYU box scores are not as impressive: THEY PLAYED STIFFER COMPETITION.
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Pin Fish
SBR MVP
11-28-08
1295
#4
CBAss....uhmmmmm who has BYU played that is better than Auburn...........
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saints1856
SBR MVP
11-12-10
1189
#5
Utah State cost me last weekend against Colorado St... I cant back them again
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whatdafuxup
SBR MVP
10-25-08
1307
#6
Thinking about the over 50
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Vin_vermillion
Restricted User
01-24-11
1537
#7
Auburn is not good....not good at ALL.
and I would say that UCF, Texas and UTAH are ALL better than Auburn....LOL
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Serbone
SBR MVP
09-21-09
1300
#8
Good call last nite on Pittsburg!
Great handicapping, Machine!
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Believeland
SBR Wise Guy
11-08-10
923
#9
Machine, you have any opinions on the over/under?
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JMUplayer
SBR MVP
08-27-09
2765
#10
BYU had some defensive and special teams TD.... they dont get those Utah State will cover
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thetrinity
SBR Posting Legend
01-25-11
22430
#11
lean to utah st gl
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#12
Originally posted by CBASS
BOL to you Machine. There is a reason that the BYU box scores are not as impressive: THEY PLAYED STIFFER COMPETITION.
I was not talking about strength of schedule.
In both BYU wins they needed a turnover for a score to win the game.
vs Ole MISS: recovered a fumble in the end zone for the winning score
vs UCF: scored after a UCF muffed punt and also scored on a kickoff return
They are not legitimately 2-2, they are legitimately 0-4.
On the other hand, Utah State outgained Auburn by 84 yards, outgained CSU by 135 yards ...and the only reason they lost to CSU was due to 5 fumbles. If they clean that up tonight, BYU is in trouble.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#13
Originally posted by Machine Choice
MACHINE CHOICE FOOTBALL: 15-9
BYU should be 0-4 and Utah State should be 2-1. If you don't know why I say that, go review the box scores and game summaries.
Utah State's new QB Chuckie Keeton so far has more ypa than their previous starter Diondre Borel. Borel was more of a scrambler but didn't really know how to play QB. Keeton is an upgrade. Most importantly, Keeton has not yet thrown an INT. Meanwhile, Utah State has been churning out the yards on the ground to the tune of 6.2 yards per rush!
BYU has shown NOTHING so far this year, and they are lucky to have two wins. They will have to prove something to me for me to ever back them. I like a pissed-off Utah State team to keep this in-state Rivalry game close. Utah State covers in a bounce-back spot.
UTAH STATE +7.5
WRONG...Utah State should be 3-0. We agree on this game.
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cheesehead004
Restricted User
12-24-08
715
#14
I don't even have a play on this game one way or another, but this is some seriously laughable reasoning. By your logic, Auburn shouldn't have won a damn game last year, let alone have gotten to the Title Game... but they did.
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#15
Originally posted by cheesehead004
I don't even have a play on this game one way or another, but this is some seriously laughable reasoning. By your logic, Auburn shouldn't have won a damn game last year, let alone have gotten to the Title Game... but they did.
Say what you want, I'll never back a team that has to rely on turnovers to win games, and certaintly not to give 7+ points
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cheesehead004
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12-24-08
715
#16
Originally posted by Machine Choice
Say what you want, I'll never back a team that has to rely on turnovers to win games, and certaintly not to give 7+ points
Did you say the same thing before Super Bowl XLIV when the winning team had a defense that was hardly even average but relied on turnovers all year long? I'm sure their turnover luck "had to stop at some point" too...
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#17
BYU's rushing defense has become better this year. Utah State torched them for 242 yards rushing in last year's matchup. The problem for BYU is that Utah State has become stronger on the ground this year.
If BYU can shut down Utah State's ground game, Utah State has no shot to cover unless Heaps throws picks (a good possibility).
Any sane person would stay out of this game tonight and wait until tomorrow. I wish I had not bet this game, it's pretty much a coin flip as to what will happen.
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Believeland
SBR Wise Guy
11-08-10
923
#18
guys any chance the total moves up and spread goes higher before the game tonight or is it best to grab it now?
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#19
I just bought my way out of this game. I played both sides, and absorbed $11 in juice.
The more I looked at the game, the more like a coin flip it seemed. I don't put my money at risk on coin flips.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#20
Then we don't agree after all. I think Utah State is the best bet of the entire weekend, which is rare for an isolated Friday night game.
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#21
Originally posted by LT Profits
Then we don't agree after all. I think Utah State is the best bet of the entire weekend, which is rare for an isolated Friday night game.
Good luck I hope they cover for you. What scared me is Utah State's very questionable defense, BYU being at home in a revenge spot, possibility of a UTST let-down, and UTST being one-dimensional offensively. Plus, BYU has played a brutal schedule and UTST may seem more manageable to them.
IF I had stayed in this game and BYU shuts down the run, I would be left watching my money get flushed before my eyes. That's not how I want to spend my Friday night.
I ran this game through my simulator and factored in strength of schedule, turnovers from previous games, and injuries and it showed BYU winning this game 34-20. Not because BYU is great on offense, but mainly because UTST has a poor defense. BYU's defense is pretty stout.
No play for me, I'll look at baseball.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#22
What is so questionable about Utah State's defense? It is actually very good. Aggies are only allowing 2.3 yards per rush and 6.4 yards per pass attempt. Forget the points allowed, that is very deceptive.
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#23
Originally posted by LT Profits
What is so questionable about Utah State's defense? It is actually very good. Aggies are only allowing 2.3 yards per rush and 6.4 yards per pass attempt. Forget the points allowed, that is very deceptive.
Their strength of schedule is #95, they haven't played any offensive juggernauts this year. I'm not saying BYU is, but BYU has played some brutal defenses (Utah, UCF, Texas) and I think that has artificially skewed BYU's offensive numbers downward. If Heaps gets going tonight (I know...not likely) BYU could pull away.
Auburn only returned 3 players on offense and yet UTST found a way to get torched at the end. BYU has 9 returning starters from last year. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying BYU should be a play.
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ck021
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09-07-11
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#24
I'm taking byu
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#25
Auburn is better than three of the four teams that BYU has faced (all but Texas), and Auburn is light years better than BYU, so Utah State losing the game by Auburn recovering an onside kick is actually a positive when looking at tonight's game. Like I said. Aggies should be 3-0.
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#26
Originally posted by LT Profits
Auburn is better than three of the four teams that BYU has faced (all but Texas)
I respectfully but strongly disagree with that statement. GL tonight. Seriously, you're backing my lean. I'm rooting for it.
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Machine Choice
SBR MVP
12-12-08
3997
#27
LT, I'm sure you know this...but just in case.
Last year after BYU played Utah State, BYU fired their defensive coordinator. The rest of the season Bronco called the defense and they improved from 28 ppg to 16 ppg despite facing two Top 25 teams on the road.
Now this year, BYU's defensive yards per rush is only 3.9 despite the fact that they have faced the #14 hardest schedule in the nation. What happens if they shut down Turbin and Williams tonight?
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#28
Originally posted by Machine Choice
I respectfully but strongly disagree with that statement. GL tonight. Seriously, you're backing my lean. I'm rooting for it.
Auburn would be favored over any of the other three teams on a neutral field right now, that is now I define "better".
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#29
Originally posted by Machine Choice
LT, I'm sure you know this...but just in case.
Last year after BYU played Utah State, BYU fired their defensive coordinator. The rest of the season Bronco called the defense and they improved from 28 ppg to 16 ppg despite facing two Top 25 teams on the road.
Now this year, BYU's defensive yards per rush is only 3.9 despite the fact that they have faced the #14 hardest schedule in the nation. What happens if they shut down Turbin and Williams tonight?
That's just it, I don't think they will. We shall see.
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CBASS
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01-22-10
2613
#30
Good call Machine
I didn't know you changed it to a 'no play', but it was still a good call.
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JMUplayer
SBR MVP
08-27-09
2765
#31
Utah State is MONEY in the 1st half..... they can't finish
Up 4 ...opponent has to go 90 yards in just over a minute... cant seal the deal.......