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  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #1
    Machine Choice: Utah State at BYU
    MACHINE CHOICE FOOTBALL: 15-9

    Tonight: NO PLAY
  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #2
    $176 to win $160
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    • CBASS
      SBR MVP
      • 01-22-10
      • 2613

      #3
      BOL to you Machine. There is a reason that the BYU box scores are not as impressive: THEY PLAYED STIFFER COMPETITION.
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      • Pin Fish
        SBR MVP
        • 11-28-08
        • 1295

        #4
        CBAss....uhmmmmm who has BYU played that is better than Auburn...........
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        • saints1856
          SBR MVP
          • 11-12-10
          • 1189

          #5
          Utah State cost me last weekend against Colorado St... I cant back them again
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          • whatdafuxup
            SBR MVP
            • 10-25-08
            • 1307

            #6
            Thinking about the over 50
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            • Vin_vermillion
              Restricted User
              • 01-24-11
              • 1537

              #7
              Auburn is not good....not good at ALL.

              and I would say that UCF, Texas and UTAH are ALL better than Auburn....LOL
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              • Serbone
                SBR MVP
                • 09-21-09
                • 1300

                #8
                Good call last nite on Pittsburg!
                Great handicapping, Machine!
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                • Believeland
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-08-10
                  • 923

                  #9
                  Machine, you have any opinions on the over/under?
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                  • JMUplayer
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-27-09
                    • 2765

                    #10
                    BYU had some defensive and special teams TD.... they dont get those Utah State will cover
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                    • thetrinity
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-25-11
                      • 22430

                      #11
                      lean to utah st gl
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                      • Machine Choice
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-12-08
                        • 3997

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CBASS
                        BOL to you Machine. There is a reason that the BYU box scores are not as impressive: THEY PLAYED STIFFER COMPETITION.
                        I was not talking about strength of schedule.

                        In both BYU wins they needed a turnover for a score to win the game.

                        vs Ole MISS: recovered a fumble in the end zone for the winning score
                        vs UCF: scored after a UCF muffed punt and also scored on a kickoff return

                        They are not legitimately 2-2, they are legitimately 0-4.

                        On the other hand, Utah State outgained Auburn by 84 yards, outgained CSU by 135 yards ...and the only reason they lost to CSU was due to 5 fumbles. If they clean that up tonight, BYU is in trouble.
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Machine Choice
                          MACHINE CHOICE FOOTBALL: 15-9

                          BYU should be 0-4 and Utah State should be 2-1. If you don't know why I say that, go review the box scores and game summaries.

                          Utah State's new QB Chuckie Keeton so far has more ypa than their previous starter Diondre Borel. Borel was more of a scrambler but didn't really know how to play QB. Keeton is an upgrade. Most importantly, Keeton has not yet thrown an INT. Meanwhile, Utah State has been churning out the yards on the ground to the tune of 6.2 yards per rush!

                          BYU has shown NOTHING so far this year, and they are lucky to have two wins. They will have to prove something to me for me to ever back them. I like a pissed-off Utah State team to keep this in-state Rivalry game close. Utah State covers in a bounce-back spot.

                          UTAH STATE +7.5
                          WRONG...Utah State should be 3-0. We agree on this game.
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                          • cheesehead004
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-24-08
                            • 715

                            #14
                            I don't even have a play on this game one way or another, but this is some seriously laughable reasoning. By your logic, Auburn shouldn't have won a damn game last year, let alone have gotten to the Title Game... but they did.
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                            • Machine Choice
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-12-08
                              • 3997

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cheesehead004
                              I don't even have a play on this game one way or another, but this is some seriously laughable reasoning. By your logic, Auburn shouldn't have won a damn game last year, let alone have gotten to the Title Game... but they did.
                              Say what you want, I'll never back a team that has to rely on turnovers to win games, and certaintly not to give 7+ points
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                              • cheesehead004
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-24-08
                                • 715

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                Say what you want, I'll never back a team that has to rely on turnovers to win games, and certaintly not to give 7+ points
                                Did you say the same thing before Super Bowl XLIV when the winning team had a defense that was hardly even average but relied on turnovers all year long? I'm sure their turnover luck "had to stop at some point" too...
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                                • Machine Choice
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-12-08
                                  • 3997

                                  #17
                                  BYU's rushing defense has become better this year. Utah State torched them for 242 yards rushing in last year's matchup. The problem for BYU is that Utah State has become stronger on the ground this year.

                                  If BYU can shut down Utah State's ground game, Utah State has no shot to cover unless Heaps throws picks (a good possibility).

                                  Any sane person would stay out of this game tonight and wait until tomorrow. I wish I had not bet this game, it's pretty much a coin flip as to what will happen.
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                                  • Believeland
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-08-10
                                    • 923

                                    #18
                                    guys any chance the total moves up and spread goes higher before the game tonight or is it best to grab it now?
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                                    • Machine Choice
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-12-08
                                      • 3997

                                      #19
                                      I just bought my way out of this game. I played both sides, and absorbed $11 in juice.

                                      The more I looked at the game, the more like a coin flip it seemed. I don't put my money at risk on coin flips.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        Then we don't agree after all. I think Utah State is the best bet of the entire weekend, which is rare for an isolated Friday night game.
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                                        • Machine Choice
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-12-08
                                          • 3997

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                          Then we don't agree after all. I think Utah State is the best bet of the entire weekend, which is rare for an isolated Friday night game.
                                          Good luck I hope they cover for you. What scared me is Utah State's very questionable defense, BYU being at home in a revenge spot, possibility of a UTST let-down, and UTST being one-dimensional offensively. Plus, BYU has played a brutal schedule and UTST may seem more manageable to them.

                                          IF I had stayed in this game and BYU shuts down the run, I would be left watching my money get flushed before my eyes. That's not how I want to spend my Friday night.

                                          I ran this game through my simulator and factored in strength of schedule, turnovers from previous games, and injuries and it showed BYU winning this game 34-20. Not because BYU is great on offense, but mainly because UTST has a poor defense. BYU's defense is pretty stout.

                                          No play for me, I'll look at baseball.
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                                          • LT Profits
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #22
                                            What is so questionable about Utah State's defense? It is actually very good. Aggies are only allowing 2.3 yards per rush and 6.4 yards per pass attempt. Forget the points allowed, that is very deceptive.
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                                            • Machine Choice
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-12-08
                                              • 3997

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                              What is so questionable about Utah State's defense? It is actually very good. Aggies are only allowing 2.3 yards per rush and 6.4 yards per pass attempt. Forget the points allowed, that is very deceptive.
                                              Their strength of schedule is #95, they haven't played any offensive juggernauts this year. I'm not saying BYU is, but BYU has played some brutal defenses (Utah, UCF, Texas) and I think that has artificially skewed BYU's offensive numbers downward. If Heaps gets going tonight (I know...not likely) BYU could pull away.

                                              Auburn only returned 3 players on offense and yet UTST found a way to get torched at the end. BYU has 9 returning starters from last year. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying BYU should be a play.
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                                              • ck021
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-07-11
                                                • 160

                                                #24
                                                I'm taking byu
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                                                • LT Profits
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                  • 90963

                                                  #25
                                                  Auburn is better than three of the four teams that BYU has faced (all but Texas), and Auburn is light years better than BYU, so Utah State losing the game by Auburn recovering an onside kick is actually a positive when looking at tonight's game. Like I said. Aggies should be 3-0.
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                                                  • Machine Choice
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-12-08
                                                    • 3997

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                    Auburn is better than three of the four teams that BYU has faced (all but Texas)
                                                    I respectfully but strongly disagree with that statement. GL tonight. Seriously, you're backing my lean. I'm rooting for it.
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                                                    • Machine Choice
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-12-08
                                                      • 3997

                                                      #27
                                                      LT, I'm sure you know this...but just in case.

                                                      Last year after BYU played Utah State, BYU fired their defensive coordinator. The rest of the season Bronco called the defense and they improved from 28 ppg to 16 ppg despite facing two Top 25 teams on the road.

                                                      Now this year, BYU's defensive yards per rush is only 3.9 despite the fact that they have faced the #14 hardest schedule in the nation. What happens if they shut down Turbin and Williams tonight?
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                                        I respectfully but strongly disagree with that statement. GL tonight. Seriously, you're backing my lean. I'm rooting for it.
                                                        Auburn would be favored over any of the other three teams on a neutral field right now, that is now I define "better".
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                                          LT, I'm sure you know this...but just in case.

                                                          Last year after BYU played Utah State, BYU fired their defensive coordinator. The rest of the season Bronco called the defense and they improved from 28 ppg to 16 ppg despite facing two Top 25 teams on the road.

                                                          Now this year, BYU's defensive yards per rush is only 3.9 despite the fact that they have faced the #14 hardest schedule in the nation. What happens if they shut down Turbin and Williams tonight?
                                                          That's just it, I don't think they will. We shall see.
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                                                          • CBASS
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-22-10
                                                            • 2613

                                                            #30
                                                            Good call Machine

                                                            I didn't know you changed it to a 'no play', but it was still a good call.
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                                                            • JMUplayer
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-27-09
                                                              • 2765

                                                              #31
                                                              Utah State is MONEY in the 1st half..... they can't finish
                                                              Up 4 ...opponent has to go 90 yards in just over a minute... cant seal the deal.......

                                                              Team could spirial after this one
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                                                              • Dogball
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 04-15-10
                                                                • 625

                                                                #32
                                                                Well played
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