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  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #1
    USF at Pittsburgh
    MACHINE CHOICE FOOTBALL: 14-9

    USF is overrated and BJ Daniels will get shut down Thurs night just like he did last year vs Pittsburgh. I watched him alot last year and he makes poor decisions against good defenses and throws the INT in clutch situations (13 INT's last year). The only reason USF beat Notre Dame this year was because ND wasted the first half of that game with Dayne Crist as QB. ND actually won the second half 20-7 with Rees under center. BJ Daniels was pathetic in that game, only throwing for 128 yards and rushing for 2.7 ypc. Also, ND gifted USF with 5 turnovers.

    Pitts' defense is just as tough as ND if not better. I don't think USF is going to get much going on the ground, and definitely not through the air. They will have a vanilla game plan in the hostile road environment and play for a low-scoring, clean victory.

    If you back BJ Daniels tomorrow, go buy a bottle of whiskey tonight cause you'll need it. If Pittsburgh avoids turnovers and penalties, they have a good shot to get their Big East schedule started right. I'll buy the hook to get the key number.

    PITTSBURGH +3
  • Jimb0311
    SBR Sharp
    • 11-27-10
    • 481

    #2
    nvm..i re-read it
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    • Machine Choice
      SBR MVP
      • 12-12-08
      • 3997

      #3
      Originally posted by Jimb0311
      so you're saying Pitt has good defense?
      Pitt has the best defense in the Big East: 8 returning starters from the unit that gave up only 19 ppg last year. If you look at the Iowa game, Pitt led 27-10 in the 4th qtr and then gave up some long passes in the end. But BJ Daniels doesn't throw the ball down the field without throwing picks.
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      • suicidekings
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-23-09
        • 9962

        #4
        The play that really made the difference in the ND game was when ND had the ball on the USF 1 yard line and tried to run it in but fumbled the ball. USF recovered at the 4 yard line and ran it back for a 96 yard TD.

        Totally agree with the play however I'm taking the Pitt ML.
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        • CBASS
          SBR MVP
          • 01-22-10
          • 2613

          #5
          Nice write up Machine. Good luck to you sir
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          • Machine Choice
            SBR MVP
            • 12-12-08
            • 3997

            #6
            $174 to win $145
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            • Snolan860
              SBR Rookie
              • 10-27-08
              • 7

              #7
              Suppose to rain a majority of the day and throughout the game. I'm sure we all know what that'll do to a horrible Heinz Field. Definitely helps Pitt/Graham and should slow BJ Daniels down a bit. Pitt and the Under seems like the plays here. BOL tomorrow.
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              • hkssupra69
                SBR Sharp
                • 11-22-10
                • 272

                #8
                I just cant back Pitt ever. even with wannstedt out that team just knows how to lose. taking the points is a decent play but i'd rather put my money on usf and enjoy watching pitt implode
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                • Barnes & Whine
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-29-11
                  • 3103

                  #9
                  I like USF in this game, and I will take the ML. Skip Holtz is a very good coach and this is a revenge spot for USF.
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                  • Pick'nParlays
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-22-08
                    • 3134

                    #10
                    under
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                    • jbess
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-03-11
                      • 359

                      #11
                      Why not the just tease it 6 points, take Pitt+9 and under 57.5
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                      • uwack23
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 09-26-11
                        • 22

                        #12
                        Good Defense? They are are in the bottom five for pass defense. They give up almost 350 passing yards a game.
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                        • BiffTFinancial
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-29-09
                          • 22670

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Snolan860
                          Suppose to rain a majority of the day and throughout the game. I'm sure we all know what that'll do to a horrible Heinz Field. Definitely helps Pitt/Graham and should slow BJ Daniels down a bit. Pitt and the Under seems like the plays here. BOL tomorrow.
                          it's always a mystery to me that the Stillers are able to get away with that crappy field year after year. it's an annual embarrassment.
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                          • Kufta4
                            Restricted User
                            • 10-22-10
                            • 85

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Snolan860
                            Suppose to rain a majority of the day and throughout the game. I'm sure we all know what that'll do to a horrible Heinz Field. Definitely helps Pitt/Graham and should slow BJ Daniels down a bit. Pitt and the Under seems like the plays here. BOL tomorrow.
                            No it's not.
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                            • goldman40
                              Restricted User
                              • 02-26-11
                              • 190

                              #15
                              i am thinking usf and the under might tease it
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                              • thebestthereis
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-01-09
                                • 11459

                                #16
                                love pitt, gl!
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                                • MartinBlank
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-20-08
                                  • 8382

                                  #17
                                  I'm with Machine in this one.

                                  I love Pitt. I bought into the ML too.

                                  GL guys!
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                                  • House
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-04-11
                                    • 7088

                                    #18
                                    First of all stop compairing teams to ND,they stink and their QB is horrible....My problem is not with the ND/USF game,what I see is a problem with a new program at Pitt and a team that is NOT GOOD at all in the second...With that said , if you really need to play Pitt,the play is the first half..... but thats not how I do it,I dont like 1st half bets that much yet,that will be a little later in the season ,what I like is the second half bets,watch the 1st half , if it has a great feel to it and you have a good idea what the second should look like,thats when I feel more comfertable with a pick,Im sure everyone already knows all this,but sometime it needs to be brought up,and in this case it fits,.......... But I went this way for the game,USF has to much tallent for this years Pitt team,forget last year...... USF by 10

                                    09/27/2011 - ONLINE at 06:52 AM [Ticket #: 103674281] STRAIGHT BET09/29/2011 @ 05:00 PM CFB[101] SOUTH FLORIDA -2½-110220.00200.00
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                                    • House
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-04-11
                                      • 7088

                                      #19
                                      Just for the record,you cant say, just because two teams played the same team,that you should pick a winner from the results of the those games.....CRAZY....have you ever heard the phrase "some teams matchup better against certain teams" out of the three teams , who would you say has the most weapons ? Where's the speed at ? Who put up the most points per game USF 10th ..Pitt 74th ,who has the best run game,and this stat is big to me USF 20th Pitt 64th ...I can go on and on ..but the bottom line is this is not a good matchup for Pitt........ USF is on a roll and keeps in rolling on the road. USF -2
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #20
                                        I want to take Pitt, but I'm worried this line opened at PK and got pounded to -2 right away.

                                        I'll monitor the ML late and adjust accordingly. If I can find Pitt at +3, I might take it small.
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                                        • Machine Choice
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-12-08
                                          • 3997

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by House
                                          Who put up the most points per game USF 10th ..Pitt 74th ,who has the best run game,and this stat is big to me USF 20th Pitt 64th ...I can go on and on ..but the bottom line is this is not a good matchup for Pitt........ USF is on a roll and keeps in rolling on the road. USF -2
                                          Pitt has played a much tougher schedule so far than USF. Of course USF's stats will be better. Go back and read what happened in last year's game when these teams met in Florida. Now move the game to Heinz Field.
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                                          • House
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-04-11
                                            • 7088

                                            #22
                                            Machine ,I love ya man,love your pick also.. but bro,would you like me to show you already in week 4 how many teams lost that played last year and won ? It is even more crazy to base a game on last years games.... and wait a minute Pitts wins are against Maine and Buffolo ...they almost lost to Maine? My friend Ball State is better than both those teams and they got their asses handed to them by USF,but that has nothing to do with this game ,they beat ND at home on opening day,not easy ... 70-17 against Florida A&M ......they handle it when they should...and UTEP 54 - 24 they beat the teams their supposed and cover,they beat beat teams they wern't supposed to ND at home when they wern't favored........... like I sad I like USF tonight GL bro....... House
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                                            • Brutus84
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-08-11
                                              • 5188

                                              #23
                                              USF should roll. Hopefully its not a Thursday night curse.
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                                              • BiffTFinancial
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-29-09
                                                • 22670

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by House
                                                Just for the record,you cant say, just because two teams played the same team,that you should pick a winner from the results of the those games.....CRAZY....have you ever heard the phrase "some teams matchup better against certain teams" out of the three teams , who would you say has the most weapons ? Where's the speed at ? Who put up the most points per game USF 10th ..Pitt 74th ,who has the best run game,and this stat is big to me USF 20th Pitt 64th ...I can go on and on ..but the bottom line is this is not a good matchup for Pitt........ USF is on a roll and keeps in rolling on the road. USF -2
                                                agree 100% on your point with respect to the "transitive property" method of handicapping. leave that shit in 8th grade geometry class where it belongs. every year, you could use that methodology in a seven-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon-type manner in an effort to show that an FCS team belongs in a BCS bowl (e.g., last year, that logic would've meant that JMU was 8 points better than Boise based upon their games with VT - and that only requires two degrees).
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                                                • Believeland
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                  • 923

                                                  #25
                                                  Why do allthese clowns say Pitt has played a tough schedule Iowa is a conservative garbage team, Maine buffalo and noted dame are near pee ons
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                                                  • ebbearsfb1
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-07-08
                                                    • 18815

                                                    #26
                                                    Would say at least a bit better... both played nd... then famu and maine cancel out... then ball st and buffalo cancel out... and. I would think iowa would be a dd favorite against utep... so not much better but slightly
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                                                    • House
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-04-11
                                                      • 7088

                                                      #27
                                                      ..... Ball State is better than Buffolo without a doubt,Buff?, who got smacked down at home vs conn ... Ball State is not bad IMO.... The truth is ND should of put up 14 more at least against Pitt, they turned the ball over twice inside the 10 ,it really wasn't that close... And wasn't in raining that 1st game in ND,wasn't there a delay also,wasn't it a home opener for ND, how much were they favored by,...all these things that happend that 1st week favored the Irish...what happend ? iwoa sucks,again dont think teams are the same teams you knew a couple years ago.... big mistake here and often made....
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                                                      • Brutus84
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-08-11
                                                        • 5188

                                                        #28
                                                        Iowa=Garbage. Defense is bad, and Qb=super consistent (consistently bad)
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                                                        • Betn247
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 12-24-10
                                                          • 622

                                                          #29
                                                          Get off of last years game...........new game new day...... Bad teams find a way to lose games they should win....Pitt is a bad team, and yea almost losing to Maine that is a tough schedule!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                          • House
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-04-11
                                                            • 7088

                                                            #30
                                                            And no coincidendes..... the line did not open at PK.....it opened at Pitt-2.5 to get that Pitt money.. then made the correction..... a 5 point swing in two days is what happend ,it wasn't the public pounding this game..... they know USF rolls,and were trying to get some Pitt money...... thats all it is!
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                                                            • kidkonggolf
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-27-10
                                                              • 1260

                                                              #31
                                                              Pitt tonite!
                                                              BOL
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                                                              • spongerat
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-01-08
                                                                • 2023

                                                                #32
                                                                I like both home teams tonight. Pitt should keep it low scoring and close
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                                                                • Brutus84
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-08-11
                                                                  • 5188

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I will throw my 130 points on USF as well
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                                                                  • trendon
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-06-10
                                                                    • 534

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Barnes & Whine
                                                                    I like USF in this game, and I will take the ML. Skip Holtz is a very good coach and this is a revenge spot for USF.
                                                                    I am with you. I see a game where Sunseri is perpetually running for his life; too much speed on the South Florida defense and, as such, I will lay the 2.5.
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                                                                    • bio_blitz
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 10-29-10
                                                                      • 189

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Best D in the Big East -- LMFAO

                                                                      Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                                                      Pitt has the best defense in the Big East: 8 returning starters from the unit that gave up only 19 ppg last year. If you look at the Iowa game, Pitt led 27-10 in the 4th qtr and then gave up some long passes in the end. But BJ Daniels doesn't throw the ball down the field without throwing picks.
                                                                      Do you actually watch games of teams you pick? As a bettor you are suppose to grow and learn every week and the one thing that I learned from watching PIT is that there D sucks!! They had Iowa dead to rights and then the D disappears the entire 4th qtr to blow a 24-3 lead and lose the game... The Pit D looked a little better against a piss poor ND team but they weren't that good, they lost again. I guess since both of those games were against non-conf foes you are not counting them??

                                                                      This will be one of the fastest most athletic teams that Pit might face all year and I expect them to blow yet another game and lose this one by 7 points or more...

                                                                      Pick = USF -3
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