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  • Carson05
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-02-08
    • 506

    #1
    can alabama move the ball on offense?
    if they can i think they win.

    i like bama's D vs. UF's Offense.

    im leaning bama +6
  • MartinBlank
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-20-08
    • 8382

    #2
    Well, the book on beating Florida seems to be running straight at them. And that is what Alabama will do.

    If they can do it well------they should be able to keep the game close.
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    • PorkChop
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-18-08
      • 8193

      #3
      YES, look what they did at VA TECH week 1, at a neutral site.
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      • PorkChop
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-18-08
        • 8193

        #4
        Originally posted by PorkChop
        YES, look what they did at VA TECH week 1, at a neutral site.

        against VA TECH i should say**
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        • Wheell
          SBR MVP
          • 01-11-07
          • 1380

          #5
          Over 41 is the play. It wasn't a fluke that these two teams combined for 51 last year.
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          • Mac4Lyfe
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-04-09
            • 48368

            #6
            Bama - too one dimensional. UF has the best shut down corner in the game in Joe Haden and they #2 CB is pretty good as well. Then they are completely loaded at safety. 8 in the box and stop the run. Can McElroy beat UF? No fn way. Then there's Tebow.

            Beatdown in progress...
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            • ZBOIZ
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-22-08
              • 21464

              #7
              Alabama is still struggling in the redzone. And on top of that Bama offense is just to one deminsional to win a sec title! No passing game what's so ever and that's with Jones. Bama coaches do not trust Mcelroy arm at all!
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              • TUDINH
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-31-08
                • 148

                #8
                wow big game coming this game don't bet just watch
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                • Memcapper
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 11-10-09
                  • 16

                  #9
                  Florida wins here easy. Zboiz is right, Alabama doesn't have the weapons. Florida will be pumped to win the game for Tebow.
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                  • HoldEmHook!!
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-08-09
                    • 2962

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Memcapper
                    Florida wins here easy. Zboiz is right, Alabama doesn't have the weapons. Florida will be pumped to win the game for Tebow.
                    Doesnt have any weapons.............are you and Z just a couple of twits or what......we have plenty of weapons.
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                    • Cougar Bait
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-04-07
                      • 18282

                      #11
                      What is McElroy's TD to INT ratio? My guess is it's pretty damn good...he's a pretty smart player. And I don't remember a lot of times where he has made horrible decisions. I could be wrong, just going from memory.
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                      • HoulihansTX
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 02-12-09
                        • 30566

                        #12
                        Works both ways. Each teams D is comparable, and to say definitively one is better than the other is asinine.

                        First to 17pts wins. Total opposite game than last year. Florida doesn't have overwhelming advantage on offense anymore. They are still strong, but not Harvin/Murphy strong. 'Bama will be able to scheme effectively this year as Florida's offense depends on play-calling now, rather than talent superiority.
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                        • Mac4Lyfe
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-04-09
                          • 48368

                          #13
                          Let see...

                          OL - advantage Florida
                          DL - Even
                          RB - Even
                          WR's - advantage Florida
                          DB's - advantage Florida
                          Safety's - advantage Florida
                          LB's - advantage Florida
                          FG kicker - advantage Bama less then 50 yds
                          Punter - advantage Florida
                          Returners - even
                          QB - advantage Florida

                          I think we have the answer.

                          btw, Florida's 2 top receivers (Cooper and Hernadez) have more receiving yards then all of Bama's receivers put together.
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                          • Cougar Bait
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                            • 10-04-07
                            • 18282

                            #14
                            Personally I think Ingram gives Bama an edge there.
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                            • Mac4Lyfe
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-04-09
                              • 48368

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                              Personally I think Ingram gives Bama an edge there.
                              The same Ingram who had 30 yards on 18 carries versus Auburn
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                              • Cougar Bait
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-04-07
                                • 18282

                                #16
                                Yeah that same Heisman candidate. Auburn had some success but their defense was in a 5-3 primarily and had 8 in the box for most of the game.
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                                • BECHunter
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 09-28-09
                                  • 140

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                  Let see...

                                  OL - advantage Florida
                                  DL - Even
                                  RB - Even
                                  WR's - advantage Florida
                                  DB's - advantage Florida
                                  Safety's - advantage Florida
                                  LB's - advantage Florida
                                  FG kicker - advantage Bama less then 50 yds
                                  Punter - advantage Florida
                                  Returners - even
                                  QB - advantage Florida

                                  I think we have the answer.

                                  btw, Florida's 2 top receivers (Cooper and Hernadez) have more receiving yards then all of Bama's receivers put together.
                                  Wow. You are not biased at all.

                                  OL - Even
                                  DL - Bama Cody, Dareus, and tons of depth. With UF's top D-lineman out advantage goes to Bama
                                  RB - advantage Bama by a large margin Ingram, Richardson, Upchurch
                                  WR's - Even
                                  TE's - Advantage UF
                                  DB's - Even
                                  Safety's - advantage Florida by a small margin
                                  LB's - Even Mclain is a beast. The other LB's are solid. Spikes for UF is a beast as well.
                                  FG kicker - Bama Tiffen is a Groza finalist.
                                  Punter - Even
                                  Returners - Even
                                  QB - advantage UF
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                                  • BECHunter
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-28-09
                                    • 140

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                    The same Ingram who had 30 yards on 18 carries versus Auburn
                                    Ingram was injured. Richardson stepped up huge. One of the best freshman RB's in the country.
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                                    • Mac4Lyfe
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-04-09
                                      • 48368

                                      #19
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                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-04-09
                                        • 48368

                                        #20
                                        I'm not even going to address all your replies but let me make a few points. UF returns every defensive player from last year (except Dunlap of course). UF's Dline held it's own against bama last year and we are faster and stronger today. Cody was abused last year as Pouncey held him in check. He was a non factor then and will be a non factor this weekend.

                                        Look up UF's rush per carry and especially on 1st down and you will find your answer about Demps, Rainey, Moody and Tebow. Cooper and Hernandez both have more receiving yards each then any of Bama's receivers including Julio. They both have more yards together then ALL of Bama's receivers combined.

                                        You have lost your mind if you think Bama's DB's can match Joe Haden who is the projected #1 CB for the NFL or Janoris Jenkins. How about Will Hill who punked Julio in the Under Armour game. He doesn't want any part of UF's secondary and will have his head on a swivel.

                                        I will have a complete writeup in a bit but UF has much more depth on both sides of the ball and more playmakers. You are going to be in for a huge surprise when you see how dominant both UF lines will be.

                                        Oh and I'll bet you some SBR points on which team will have the most rushing yards since you think Bama has the advantage their.
                                        Originally posted by BECHunter
                                        Wow. You are not biased at all.

                                        OL - Even
                                        DL - Bama Cody, Dareus, and tons of depth. With UF's top D-lineman out advantage goes to Bama
                                        RB - advantage Bama by a large margin Ingram, Richardson, Upchurch
                                        WR's - Even
                                        TE's - Advantage UF
                                        DB's - Even
                                        Safety's - advantage Florida by a small margin
                                        LB's - Even Mclain is a beast. The other LB's are solid. Spikes for UF is a beast as well.
                                        FG kicker - Bama Tiffen is a Groza finalist.
                                        Punter - Even
                                        Returners - Even
                                        QB - advantage UF
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                                        • BECHunter
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-28-09
                                          • 140

                                          #21
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                                          • lolyoutard
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 10-04-09
                                            • 46

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                            Let see... OL - advantage Florida DL - Even RB - Even WR's - advantage Florida DB's - advantage Florida Safety's - advantage Florida LB's - advantage Florida FG kicker - advantage Bama less then 50 yds Punter - advantage Florida Returners - even QB - advantage Florida I think we have the answer. btw, Florida's 2 top receivers (Cooper and Hernadez) have more receiving yards then all of Bama's receivers put together.
                                            Wow, that might be the most homerific analysis I have ever seen. If you remember last year Haden couldn't handle Jones 1-1. He won't be able to this year either as Jones as better (stats yada, yada he is double teamed almost everydown). Jones can also block Haden which will help us run because he is your 2nd leading tackler. You just better hope Tebow plays perfect on 3rd down again and that Dunlap draws a lot of double teams to free up... oh ya. This year Tebow is going to be facing a much better pass rush with a worse offensive line. That draw play... nada. Bama has the better safeties too. Easily. Florida is in for a shit storm on Saturday.
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                                            • lolyoutard
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 10-04-09
                                              • 46

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                              I'm not even going to address all your replies but let me make a few points. UF returns every defensive player from last year (except Dunlap of course). UF's Dline held it's own against bama last year and we are faster and stronger today. Cody was abused last year as Pouncey held him in check. He was a non factor then and will be a non factor this weekend. Look up UF's rush per carry and especially on 1st down and you will find your answer about Demps, Rainey, Moody and Tebow. Cooper and Hernandez both have more receiving yards each then any of Bama's receivers including Julio. They both have more yards together then ALL of Bama's receivers combined. You have lost your mind if you think Bama's DB's can match Joe Haden who is the projected #1 CB for the NFL or Janoris Jenkins. How about Will Hill who punked Julio in the Under Armour game. He doesn't want any part of UF's secondary and will have his head on a swivel. I will have a complete writeup in a bit but UF has much more depth on both sides of the ball and more playmakers. You are going to be in for a huge surprise when you see how dominant both UF lines will be. Oh and I'll bet you some SBR points on which team will have the most rushing yards since you think Bama has the advantage their.

                                              I see your points and you are trying hard, but quit looking at stats and watch the match-ups. Florida held Cody in check lolololololol. 3.4ypc with basically nothing up the middle.

                                              ALSO, JULIO HAS PLAYED UF"S SECONDARY AND LIT THEM UP! That was with a worse QB, no other receiver options, and a more ferocious pass rush against a worse pass blocking o-line.

                                              You can find last years game here cause you obviously need to watch again: http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/?ShowId=200205

                                              Oh and its there not their.

                                              It's their football.
                                              Florida has the advantage there.

                                              One is possessive.
                                              Last edited by lolyoutard; 12-03-09, 04:04 AM.
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                                              • Cougar Bait
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-04-07
                                                • 18282

                                                #24
                                                Florida might have the edge in rushing YARDS (because of TT) but the edge in terms of running back IMO goes to Bama. Mac, predictions on a final score? Sounds like you think it will be a blowout.
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                                                • ZBOIZ
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-22-08
                                                  • 21464

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                  Let see...

                                                  OL - advantage Florida
                                                  DL - Even
                                                  RB - Even
                                                  WR's - advantage Florida
                                                  DB's - advantage Florida
                                                  Safety's - advantage Florida
                                                  LB's - advantage Florida
                                                  FG kicker - advantage Bama less then 50 yds
                                                  Punter - advantage Florida
                                                  Returners - even
                                                  QB - advantage Florida

                                                  I think we have the answer.

                                                  btw, Florida's 2 top receivers (Cooper and Hernadez) have more receiving yards then all of Bama's receivers put together.

                                                  but you cant tell them that they say they have weapons.

                                                  They do have a great defense. Offense is average. I think it will take more than a average offense to beat Florida.
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                                                  • ZBOIZ
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-22-08
                                                    • 21464

                                                    #26
                                                    Guys do you all think Ingram is completely healthy ?
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                                                    • BECHunter
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 09-28-09
                                                      • 140

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                      I'm not even going to address all your replies but let me make a few points. UF returns every defensive player from last year (except Dunlap of course). UF's Dline held it's own against bama last year and we are faster and stronger today. Cody was abused last year as Pouncey held him in check. He was a non factor then and will be a non factor this weekend.

                                                      Look up UF's rush per carry and especially on 1st down and you will find your answer about Demps, Rainey, Moody and Tebow. Cooper and Hernandez both have more receiving yards each then any of Bama's receivers including Julio. They both have more yards together then ALL of Bama's receivers combined.

                                                      You have lost your mind if you think Bama's DB's can match Joe Haden who is the projected #1 CB for the NFL or Janoris Jenkins. How about Will Hill who punked Julio in the Under Armour game. He doesn't want any part of UF's secondary and will have his head on a swivel.

                                                      I will have a complete writeup in a bit but UF has much more depth on both sides of the ball and more playmakers. You are going to be in for a huge surprise when you see how dominant both UF lines will be.

                                                      Oh and I'll bet you some SBR points on which team will have the most rushing yards since you think Bama has the advantage their.

                                                      I'll take that bet. Bama will rush for more yardage on their way to a SECCG win.

                                                      Ingram 1429 Yards / 6.2 YPC / 12 TD (+3 Receiving)
                                                      Richardson 562 Yards / 4.9 YPC / 6 TD

                                                      Tebow 796 Yards / 4.1 YPC / 13 TD
                                                      Demps 729 Yards / 7.7 YPC / 7 TD

                                                      Then on to the receivers.

                                                      Julio 545 Yards / 4 TD
                                                      Maze 423 Yards / 2 TD
                                                      Peek 274 Yards / 2 TD
                                                      Hanks 272 / 3 TD

                                                      Cooper 703 Yards / 8 TD
                                                      Hernandez 654 / 4 TD
                                                      Thompson 258 / 3 TD

                                                      Bama looks like they just spread the ball around more. I would take Julio over Cooper any day.

                                                      Haden is no doubt a great player. UF's secondary is great but so is Bama's.

                                                      Bama has Barron, Arenas, Johnson, and Jackson. I think as a unit it is pretty even. For what it's worth UF's team interception leader is Haden with 4. Bama's Barron has 7.

                                                      I like Cody matching up with any OL. Trust me Pouncey did not single him up. It is near impossible.

                                                      I would take McClain over any linebacker in the country. Dude is an absolute beast.

                                                      Just for shits and giggles.

                                                      Mcelroy 2211 Yards / 16 TD / 4 INT
                                                      Tebow 2166 Yards / 17 TD / 4 INT

                                                      I am in no way saying Mcelroy is a better QB but his numbers certainly stack up.

                                                      Another key factor is pressure.

                                                      Bama has given up just 14 sacks while UF has given up 26 (79th in the country).

                                                      Florida has sacked the QB 34 times (8 of those were Dunlap). Bama has sacked the QB 30 times.

                                                      The Tide will roll Saturday.
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                                                      • MelubYou
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 11-23-09
                                                        • 32

                                                        #28
                                                        bama struggles to put up points
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                                                        • BadNina
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                                                          • 11-27-07
                                                          • 10491

                                                          #29
                                                          I think the two teams are kinda evenly matched. And in my most humble opinion, the player that Bama will miss the most next year (and who is so overlooked) is the punter, PJ Fitzgerald. I love me a punter with attitude.

                                                          Now as for Saturday, there isn't any way to deny that Florida is one of the top teams. It seems to me that some of the flash from last year isn't there but that's due to the fact that their players now play on Sunday. Bama is improved from last year. I think there are a lot of people who overlook them.
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                                                          • Mac4Lyfe
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-04-09
                                                            • 48368

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BECHunter
                                                            I'll take that bet. Bama will rush for more yardage on their way to a SECCG win.
                                                            So do you want to bet straight up? Your betting that Bama will have more total rush yards than UF?

                                                            How about for 100 SBR points. If you agree, send 100 points and if you win I will send you 200 in return. Let's go
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                                                            • Jonah
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-21-09
                                                              • 4042

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ZBOIZ
                                                              Guys do you all think Ingram is completely healthy ?
                                                              Good Question...It seems it happens a lot in these big games where a star player plays through injury, but is only a shell of his healthy self.
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                                                              • padre
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 11-23-09
                                                                • 100

                                                                #32
                                                                Florida 24 Bama 13
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                                                                • maseda17
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-17-09
                                                                  • 781

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I was thinking Under 41 in this game. I know last year it was a 51 point total but the O/U was 54 for that one. The strength of both of these teams is defense which is odd considering the dynamic nature of the Florida O. I am staying away from the spread here because I like Florida but probably by no more than a FG. The Under seems safe, but perhaps the square bet. So be it.
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                                                                  • BECHunter
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 09-28-09
                                                                    • 140

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    So do you want to bet straight up? Your betting that Bama will have more total rush yards than UF?

                                                                    How about for 100 SBR points. If you agree, send 100 points and if you win I will send you 200 in return. Let's go
                                                                    You're on. Ingram and Richardson will blow up in this game.
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                                                                    • tblues2005
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-30-06
                                                                      • 9235

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I think this game comes down the turnovers. Who has the most turnovers will lose this game. This game is so evenly matched that turnovers will make the difference here.
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