Official Tulas@UTEP Pick'em Thread

[ASH0479]

And the College Football week starts Wednesday night with Tulsa visiting UTEP Wednesday night~

Lines!

Tulsa -7.5
O/U 57

Tulsa's Defense is much improved this season, UTEP, well they have no defense but they are a very tough home team...

Leaning Tulsa and maybe a small play on the over as I see Tulsa putting up 40+

[H-BOMB]

Tulsa -7.5

[saltwatercowboy]

Leaning UTEP +7.5. Much more value in them at home. People saw Tulsa play Boise St tough last week on ESPN and the public will be riding them hard. Think Vegas knows this as well and adjusted the line accordingly. UTEP with the points for me. Good luck with your selection.

[HawaiiFan]

I'm thinking of teasing tulsa with another team. That should pad me a bit.

[Odraca]

yea i expect a let down defensively for tulsa, hitting utep ML, +7.5, and under, tulsa will get rattled on the road

[cgars1]

(2x) o57

[Jimmy Proffett]

First time poster, another Parrothead on board

I'm leaning toward UTEP +7.5; last week taking the road fav on Wednesday (Boise St.) bit me; not this time. I know UTEP gives up a ton of yards through the air, but those numbers are heavily skewed by the Houston game, which they won outright btw regardless of letdown talk or whatever.

Last week Boise moved the ball up and down the field on the Tulsa D.... if it wasn't for some BSU turnovers and some Tulsa trickeration the score would've been much worse. Add in the revenge factor (Tulsa put up 77 last year on UTEP).... and I see Vittatoe and Buckram keeping up with a less potent Golden Hurricanes offense and this being one of those games that the last team with the ball wins.

[docrocker]

I like Tulsa

[saltwatercowboy]

First time poster, another Parrothead on board

I'm leaning toward UTEP +7.5; last week taking the road fav on Wednesday (Boise St.) bit me; not this time. I know UTEP gives up a ton of yards through the air, but those numbers are heavily skewed by the Houston game, which they won outright btw regardless of letdown talk or whatever.

Last week Boise moved the ball up and down the field on the Tulsa D.... if it wasn't for some BSU turnovers and some Tulsa trickeration the score would've been much worse. Add in the revenge factor (Tulsa put up 77 last year on UTEP).... and I see Vittatoe and Buckram keeping up with a less potent Golden Hurricanes offense and this being one of those games that the last team with the ball wins.

Nice to have another Parrothead in the forum. Fins Up!!!!!!

[Ralphie1412]

Leaning UTEP +7.5. Much more value in them at home. People saw Tulsa play Boise St tough last week on ESPN and the public will be riding them hard. Think Vegas knows this as well and adjusted the line accordingly. UTEP with the points for me. Good luck with your selection.

yea i expect a let down defensively for tulsa, hitting utep ML, +7.5, and under, tulsa will get rattled on the road

wanna wager some points?

[aekdb1130]

I'm on Tulsa -7. UTEP will not be able run against the Tulsa defense that haven't gave up a rushing touchdown yet..

[Cubs2240]

Just a reminder that Lang is on UTEP.......

[Ralphie1412]

Lang is on UTEP? BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!

[CashIn]

Lang is on UTEP? BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Leaning UTEP +7.5. Much more value in them at home. People saw Tulsa play Boise St tough last week on ESPN and the public will be riding them hard. Think Vegas knows this as well and adjusted the line accordingly. UTEP with the points for me. Good luck with your selection.

Maybe Vegas knew that you would know that the public would be on Tulsa thus adjusted the line to suck you in

[LINE-crush-ER]

off SCORE Y/PL FD RA RY YR PA PY YP TY TIME TO PEN
utepp 24.9 5.3 18.6 35.9 120.9 3.4 31.0 230.7 12.6 351.6 32:38 1.6 4.1
Tulsa 30.8 5.8 18.7 39.7 154.7 3.9 28.7 239.7 13.8 394.3 29:30 1.2 6.2
defensive
TEAM SCORE Y/PL FD RA RY YR PA PY YP TY TIME TO PEN
Tulsa 18.2 4.5 17.7 36.7 111.3 3.0 32.5 201.3 11.2 312.7 30:29 2.2 4.7
exas El Paso 34.8 6.2 26.2 40.3 215.7 5.4 39.2 277.3 11.0 493.0 31:58 1.8 7.5



TULSA(TULSA)------------- Rank---------------------------------- Rank
AVERAGE SCORE FOR: 30.8 35 AVERAGE SCORE AGAINST: 18.2 24
TOTAL YARDS: 394.3 47 TOTAL YARDS: 312.7 29
RUSHING YARDS: 154.7 52 RUSHING YARDS: 111.3 32
PASSING YARDS: 239.7 41 PASSING YARDS: 201.3 42



UTEPP (UTEPP) Rank Rank
AVERAGE SCORE FOR: 24.5 82 AVERAGE SCORE AGAINST: 34.8 109
TOTAL YARDS: 332.3 90 TOTAL YARDS: 493.0 119
RUSHING YARDS: 122.7 90 RUSHING YARDS: 215.7 114
PASSING YARDS: 209.7 69 PASSING YARDS: 277.3 115
this last stat is what i am looking hard at an average of 40 ranking on offense to 75th of utepp and on defense
a ranking of 33rd best to 110 best or worst in this case of utepps , Tulsa big time here , looks like you guys have the right pick here big time

[LINE-crush-ER]

never again I spent so much time spacing it it always sticks back together sorry but trust me its worth looking at
tje last part where tepp and tulsa has this Tulsa (tulsa) and sodwn from there
35th best , 47 best , 52 best and 41 best , on offense to tulsa , defense 24, 29th,32, 32 best on defense
floowed with utepps 82,90th,90th,69, best on offense , and 109th, 119th,114th,115, best or worst on defense , basically a better than average team playing one of the worst teams in the nation on national television , sorry about huritng your eyes

[LINE-crush-ER]

much easier

again I copied pasted it but just cant seem to ever get the matrix from attaching once doing so

[accuscoresucks]

i never understood how people can take utep their is a 62 rank differential between these 2 teams
tulsa/-6.5
great value in this line as tulsa should take it by -17

[HoulihansTX]

i never understood how people can take utep their is a 62 rank differential between these 2 teams tulsa/-6.5 great value in this line as tulsa should take it by -17

Suckers are born everyday. Just look through the various threads. I saw some people over-thinking themselves into UTEP... WOW! Vegas takes our money for a reason.

[capper123]

Take tulsa here tonight. Although utep can have some surprise offense, their defense is just way to bad. Tulsa might start off a little slow but they will easily win this won by 14 points.

[RayzHELL]

Tulsa

Taking TULSA.

Maybe I can get back some of the money I lost when Tulsa played Boise State close!

Spread (or run line)
Description: Football NCAA - 301 Tulsa Golden Hurricanes -7 [buying 1½ points] -145 for Game
Risk: $1,012.70 (USD) To Win Amount: $698.41 (USD)

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T.A.N.S.T.A.A.F.L. ("There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" from The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein)
T.A.N.S.T.A.A.B.L. ("There ain't no such thing as a BLOW-OUT LOCK" from Betting Advice Experience by Ray Z. HELL)

[HoulihansTX]

Spread (or run line) Description: Football NCAA - 301 Tulsa Golden Hurricanes -7 [buying 1½ points] -145 for Game Risk: $1,012.70 (USD) To Win Amount: $698.41 (USD)

Say it isn't so a straight bet?? Whats getting into you Ray? Hahaha

Dude you got to make that blurb at the bottom of your posts a part of your signature. Do you type, or copy & paste that thing for every post?? Very easy to set up, and will automatically post at bottom of your replies. Go to the Settings screen, then look on the left side, and click on Edit Signature.

[IHateEveryone]

Nice to have another Parrothead in the forum. Fins Up!!!!!!

Love that one song he sings, "If you like Pina Coladas". Great Tune.

Wish I could say the same about your analysis. By the way I know that is Rupert so I don't need you taking a break from your Mai Tais to quote me a lesson on Music. I hate music. I hate you. Most of all I hate your pick.

Been looking at this game from multiple angles and would agree with Salty that Public did watch the game against Boise but not ready to say how Vegas knows public would know, because I knew you would know what the line would be set at Theory. End of the day we are deep enough into the season that we can begin to forecast who teams are. UTEP is 2-4 against the spread and giving up an average of 34 points a game. Granted Texas and Houston poured it on to push that average up, they gave up 34 and 35 to Kansas and Memphis too. None of the above offenses are slouches and neither is Tulsa. I have been reviewing film on UTEP and they do play 11 guys on defense despite rumors they run 7 on 7's. All in all, Tulsa will put a similar game plan in effect to what they had against Boise where they pass first, pass second, and run last. Not predicting blowout because weeknight games have a way of making every underdog a contender and UTEP has had some success getting teams to turn the ball over, but at the end of the day you can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap (doesn't carry the weight of the expletive, but can't afford the suspension). Boys lay the chalk with confidence and rest assured you won't have to sweat this one.

IHateEverything
“As long as we hate, there will be people to hate.” George Harrison

[extra243]

Take the points @ home! +7.5 small bet!

[HoulihansTX]

Most of all I hate your pick. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Been looking at this game from multiple angles and would agree with Salty that Public did watch the game against Boise but not ready to say how Vegas knows public would know, because I knew you would know what the line would be set at Theory. End of the day we are deep enough into the season that we can begin to forecast who teams are. UTEP is 2-4 against the spread and giving up an average of 34 points a game. Granted Texas and Houston poured it on to push that average up, they gave up 34 and 35 to Kansas and Memphis too. None of the above offenses are slouches and neither is Tulsa. I have been reviewing film on UTEP and they do play 11 guys on defense despite rumors they run 7 on 7's. All in all, Tulsa will put a similar game plan in effect to what they had against Boise where they pass first, pass second, and run last. Not predicting blowout because weeknight games have a way of making every underdog a contender and UTEP has had some success getting teams to turn the ball over, but at the end of the day you can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap (doesn't carry the weight of the expletive, but can't afford the suspension). Boys lay the chalk with confidence and rest assured you won't have to sweat this one.

Ok It was a National TV game, and only game that night. Salts argument is moot right there.

WTF are you trying to say?? Is it that Vegas would trap perspective bettors, with a line that will be sure to lure Tulsa backers??? Tulsa has been a contender in the WAC for the past 5 years. UTEP is on the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to accomplishments. If the line opened at -10.5, which was my fair line, I would have still trounced on it.

I would argue that the opening line was set low to give the illusion of a home team with a chance. The Oddsmakers thought people would give UTEP credit for its last home win against Houston. Plus obviously get balance on the bets. Oddsmakers were wrong according to my hypothetical, and can't move line too sharply. Subsequently, to even out the bets oddsmakers would open themselves to a middle. 76% on Tulsa, while line is sitting at -8. It would take a line of about +10 to get more UTEP backers.

I know you picked Tulsa, but your word arrangement, lack of spaces, and crazy delivery threw me off.

[BigdaddyQH]

Dosomeof you guys dream up your lines? Tulsa-6.5? If you are going to come up with a line out of the ordinary, you had better state when and where you got it so we can check it. If not, no one who knows anything will believe you. As far as the game goes, neither one of these teams has been scoring a lot of late. UTEP scored 96 points against Houston and New Mexico State and 51 points in their other 4 games, all losses. Tulsa has scored 48 points in their last 3 FBS games. Another week night game that forces all the addicts to the books. Nothing strange about the line movement. Pass.

[twincities77]

Took UTEP plus 7 (+104), wish I had waited. Tulsa is not as good as people think they are, but we'll see what happens.

[bigcat1]

I AGree with one of the other posters, tulsa -7, maybe i can get back some of the money i lost last week day against boise st, i think i lost money when i took them against oklahoma, tulsa didn't show up for that game,

[teaserpleaser]

Nobody like the under huh? I know Utep d is bad but Tulsa offense isnt the explosive offense from last year... both coachs talking about focusing on the run. Can Utep Tackle? going to be honest havent watched them going to look for film after i post this. One thing i do know is that that Tulsa defense is pretty good. already at 60 at legends if it hits 60+ might have to jump.... off to look for film. If you've watched Uteps D please let me know what you think.

[Intuitive_Edge]

Nobody like the under huh? I know Utep d is bad but Tulsa offense isnt the explosive offense from last year... both coachs talking about focusing on the run. Can Utep Tackle? going to be honest havent watched them going to look for film after i post this. One thing i do know is that that Tulsa defense is pretty good. already at 60 at legends if it hits 60+ might have to jump.... off to look for film. If you've watched Uteps D please let me know what you think.

i like u60 but not strong

[teaserpleaser]

Nobody like the under huh? I know Utep d is bad but Tulsa offense isnt the explosive offense from last year... both coachs talking about focusing on the run. Can Utep Tackle? going to be honest havent watched them going to look for film after i post this. One thing i do know is that that Tulsa defense is pretty good. already at 60 at legends if it hits 60+ might have to jump.... off to look for film. If you've watched Uteps D please let me know what you think.

scratch that under found some utep film on youtube.

[teaserpleaser]

i like u60 but not strong

alot of trick plays and shots down the field by UTEP maybe a half time bet keeping an eye on the lines.

[HoulihansTX]

scratch that under found some utep film on youtube.

The worst way to scout is highlight films. I bet they didn't show fumbles, INT, dropped passes, or them in the locker room after a loss.

[LINE-crush-ER]

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