Football Winners - turning 25,000 into 100,000

josh hamilton · 10-11-09, 11:47 PM

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 9-7 (+905$) *Rough day*
CFB: 8-9-1 (+9,375$) *Great day*
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 20-17-1 (+11,940$) - 56%

oda11 · 10-11-09, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by josh hamilton

This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.

josh hamilton · 10-12-09, 02:08 AM

Thankyou oda. The men at therx really give you a hard time when you lose a selection, you guys seem like a calmer bunch. Thanks.

josh hamilton · 10-12-09, 04:30 AM

NFL for monday posted in the NFL section.

lorraineperla · 10-12-09, 05:21 AM

2,100$ - New York Jets/Miami under 36 -105 (wish i got 37)
1,800$ - Miami Dolphins +125

I handicapped this game as a 17-13 Miami win.
Note: Jets CB Donald Strickland (ankle) .. OUT
Jets CB Lito Sheppard (quadricep) .. DOUBTFUL
Jets WR Jerricho Cotchery (hamstring) .. QUESTIONABLE

Cotchery is Jets #1 receiver, with 23 of Jets 63 catches and praticed with an injured hamstring practiced with the team Thursday, but sat out Friday and Saturday.

Joey Porter, of Miami, who sat out last week in the win vs. the bills practiced all week and is listed as questionable for this game.

I do expect Cotchery and Porter to both play this game, but it looks as though Porter is recovering from his injury while Cotchery is at the beginning stages, and if he does play I expect less looks his way. Especially with newly aquired Braylon Edwards, though I do not expect him and rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez to be insync right from the get-go. They looked fine together in practice, but it is a much different situation once gametime comes; especially in a hostile environment on MNF, like at division rivals Miami.

I expect a heavy run game from Miami, but I do also expect the Jets to produce a heavier run game than past weeks. These teams know that this will be a grind 'em out game all day, and this should come down to the end, where I expect Miami to edge out the visiting Jets.

Miami will also be getting back LB Akin Ayodele (back) and DE Phillip Merling (ankle) this week, while S Kerry Rhodes (knee), T Damien Woody (foot) are both listed as questionable for the Jets, and both had limited practiced this week.

If either selection wins I profit on the night, but I expect and hope that both win.

Goog Luck

Sirus73 · 10-12-09, 09:37 AM

Please understand this is not a bash at all on you, but something you"must do to live" sounds a little erratic. I mean, I have heard people make a living at gambling but they also had something else to fall back on in hard times. Once again, not knock you just saying.

BigdaddyQH · 10-12-09, 10:01 AM

I have seen you in other sites before. Your problem is that you are going to have to account for every one of your picks. You claim to be 8-9-1 in CFB, but up over 9K. Post your picks so we can see that. Until we see that, we have to question your entire statement. Also, you may want to clarify what "rough day" and "great day" mean. That sounds as if you make all of those wagers on one day.

josh hamilton · 10-12-09, 11:40 AM

Bigdaddyqh, ALL of my picks have been posted at the other forums including the one where i've talked you a bunch. My picks are also tracked in chronological order on my blog, if you check eog my link is posted for there .. still no one has gotten back to be about whether or not I am allowed to post it here.

The reason I am plus so much money yet only 8-9-1, is because three of my wagers were 500$ or less on +200 ML dogs, they all lost. I started CFB 3-8-1, and am 6-1 the past seven plays.

I posted great day and bad day, next to the record because I won near 10,000 in CFB this weekend but lost over 6,000 in the NFL on Sunday; so was just posting how the weekend wen't .. that is all.

Thanks and goodluck bud. I can post every pick i've posted so far. That is my record, but I was 7-3-1 before I started this idea, which I have NOT included in my record .. but like I said at the other site if you go through my thread you will see every selection ive had YTD. If you still question my record then later tonight I will post every pick ive had, and the result of every pick.

Thanks and gl guys.

wal66 · 10-12-09, 02:03 PM

Best advice I can give you is simply post your plays, give your reasons and log your results. Anytime someone comes to the forum with a story it tends to throw up radars. It's not that they aren't a friendly bunch around here it's just it takes taime to adjust. You don't even have to be a winner just legit.

BigdaddyQH · 10-12-09, 05:19 PM

I agree. Just post your plays. You can keep your spreadsheet in here, and that is the easiest way to go about it. Just post your plays on the spreadsheet. That way, anyone cansee them anytime they wish. I do that. Since I play with a bunch of guys, and since we rarely play anything but out standard wager, I just use 110 to win 100 to keep it simple. You would have to actually put in the amount you wager, since you aparently wager differing amounts.

josh hamilton · 10-12-09, 06:54 PM

Okay thanks guys. thats what ill do then, starting tonight.

RoagBettor · 10-12-09, 06:57 PM

Yeah, don't be a ZBOIZ either

josh hamilton · 10-12-09, 07:57 PM

what is a zboiz?

lol, I post that the plays are in the NFL thread and then lorainne posts the picks in here. hahaha? Thanks?

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 12:40 AM

1-1 +150$

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 10-8 (+1,055$)
CFB: 8-9-1 (+9,375$)
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 21-18-1 (+11,940$) - 56%

GatorFan · 10-13-09, 12:46 AM

if you can turn your 25k to 100k, then you will become a millionaire very soon... enjoy when it lasts....

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by GatorFan

if you can turn your 25k to 100k, then you will become a millionaire very soon... enjoy when it lasts....

Thanks brother. As amazing as that would be, it is not something I will think about for atleast five years.

If you use smart money management, and have a good idea of what to look at when betting, anyone can do it. Only problem is most people usually have one or the other. Those who are good at picking games tend to wager too much because they are confident in their picks. People who don't look to get rich overnight usually aren't researching the games much and are just picking their selections off past results, in their head.

Research, study and wager the proper amounts (which takes time to learn and be patient with) and you will learn the smart way to go about it.

GL

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 01:20 AM

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 10-8 (+1,055$)
CFB: 8-9-1 (+9,375$)
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 21-18-1 (+11,940$) - 56%
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October 13th, 2009:

2,660$ - Arkansas State ML +115
(I really like this play, Arkansas state is MUCH better than their record shows)

Friday MLB:
1,000$ : LAA Angels/New York under 8.5 +103
500$ : LAA Angels ML +157
500$ : LAA Angels -1.5 +250 (Alternate line

GL

GatorFan · 10-13-09, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by josh hamilton

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 10-8 (+1,055$)
CFB: 8-9-1 (+9,375$)
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 21-18-1 (+11,940$) - 56%
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October 13th, 2009:

2,660$ - Arkansas State ML +115
(I really like this play, Arkansas state is MUCH better than their record shows)

Friday MLB:
1,000$ : LAA Angels/New York under 8.5 +103
500$ : LAA Angels ML +157
500$ : LAA Angels -1.5 +250 (Alternate line

GL

Wow it's a huge bet. 2660 is more than 10% of your bankroll...it is recommended that we should play from 0.5 % to 1% of our bankroll by solid cappers

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 01:37 AM

no bud. I have posted numerous times now that my bankroll was 125,000$ when I started this thread. I made a rule I would increase the majority of my wagers from 1 to 2% wagers, to 3 to 5% wagers and if I lose the 25,000 I would go to vegas with 100 thou. My goal is to turn this 25,000 into 100,000 and go with 200 thou. This way I would only need to win 50% of my bankroll each year, or 50 units profit; which is one unit per week.

My bankroll is now practically at 137 thousand, so this wager is just under 2% of my current bankroll and just over 2% of my "starting" bankroll.

As i've mentioned, when I arrive in Vegas, and how I have done it for years I wager 75% of my wagers being 1 to 2% of my bankroll 24% of my wagers 3 to 5%, and 1% so one or two selections per year of 6 to 8% of my bankroll.

Hope this helps or clears things up a bit.

spongerat · 10-13-09, 03:15 AM

why don't you just write what your real bankroll is instead of being all cute about it.

just start at 0-0-0 or i guess 1-1-0 after tonight and if you start winnign people will believe you and cheer for you, no padding your stats from other sites or yes, people will bash you when you lose

and if all this is true, what have you been living off of? unemployment? wait. don't answer. don't care.

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 03:19 AM

because it made more sense to do it this way, haha. It is a mini quest, and I can not have more than 25,000 wagered at one time, though there is no shot of this happening I figured it made more sense to do it this way.

KingKing · 10-13-09, 04:00 AM

best of luck!!

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 04:13 AM

thanks kingking. I have my NFL card finished for sunday/monday, now i'm just working on College. College always takes much longer than NFL, though I don't look at every game.

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by josh hamilton

Began Sept 30, 2009
Starting bankroll: 25,000$ *Not my full bankroll, a part of it*
Final goal: 100,000$

*This is real money, so please avoid bashing. Every losing play is hard enough.*

NFL: 10-8 (+1,055$)
CFB: 8-9-1 (+9,375$)
MLB: 3-1 (+1,660$)
*Three CFB losses were small wagers on +200 ml dogs*

OVERALL: 21-18-1 (+11,940$) - 56%
-------------------------------------------------------------
October 13th, 2009:

2,660$ - Arkansas State ML +115
(I really like this play, Arkansas state is MUCH better than their record shows)

Friday MLB:
1,000$ : LAA Angels/New York under 8.5 +103
500$ : LAA Angels ML +157
500$ : LAA Angels -1.5 +250 (Alternate line

GL

bump for tonight. This weekends NFL selections are posted in the NFL forum.

nickelchip · 10-13-09, 04:52 PM

good luck, im on ark st also!!!!

BigdaddyQH · 10-13-09, 04:58 PM

A few Questions. First, is your real name Josh Hamilton. Second, do you wager in Las Vegas. Third, if you do, where do you wager? Please answer honestly, because I will be checking out what you say.

ghetto1 · 10-13-09, 05:09 PM

can anyone confirm josh hamilton is real? well this guy sound pretty confident.let me try to follow his way tonight and see how it go....cuz past week i did really badddddd...ALLEN EASTMAN seem pretty good picker but he dont have a pick for college game tonight...so now let see how JOSH HAMILTON do tonight? GOODLUCK to everyone who play tonight.

goooo! ark st.!!!

jpete1966 · 10-13-09, 05:13 PM

Best of luck to you but you really need to start your plays at 0-0. It's oddly convenient that all 3 of your categories have a nice cushion in them before you even start posting your plays. I commend your thread and I think there should be more like it but stating that you are already up a cushy $12,000 doesn't sit well. It definitely sends up the BS radar.

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 05:47 PM

J pete. Send me a pm and i'll send you a link to my blog where I have tracked all of my selections. I have also tracked all of my selections at the forum.therx, eog forum, and Sportsbettingworld forum. The plays are tracked to the first day in my threads, just do a search for my name and look for threads titled the same as this one and you can backtrack EVERY single play.

To be honest by record is even better than what I have posted, as I wen't 7-3-1 in football the weekend before i started this "journey".

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

A few Questions. First, is your real name Josh Hamilton. Second, do you wager in Las Vegas. Third, if you do, where do you wager? Please answer honestly, because I will be checking out what you say.

1) No my name is not Josh Hamilton. My middle name is Josh, which I have used as my first name since I was 10. I was born in Hamilton Canada, before moving to San Diego at the age of 3. That is how I have came up with this handle.

Like ive said before, no I use four online books, but when I move to vegas in January I will be placing wagers at vegas books 90% of the time, likely. Do you live in Vegas Bigdaddyqh? We should go out for some beers mid-january, i've had some pm's from other members who asked to go out for the beers and watch some football, maybe we could all go out and party together. Let me know bud.

williams22 · 10-13-09, 06:03 PM

Josh,
Good luck tonight! I am on Arkansas St as well. Any thought on the O/u? I'm leaning under with the bad weather as I expect this to be a game of field position played mainly on the ground.

Also, I wouldn't worry too much about the people complaining that you aren't starting your record at 0-0-0...who cares? You come across as honest and I see no reason why we should doubt you.

Best of luck to you. I'll certainly be stopping back to tail at times!

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 06:08 PM

when there is sloppy weather, I tend not to play the over or under. Some share the view that with lots of rain, comes lots of running .. this is sometimes true. Others share the view that with lots of rain, equals lots of sloppy play and possibly turnovers leading to points or short playing fields.

Bet arkansas state and let the money pile up, don't get greedy and feel you need to bet the total also. GL

As for my record, I would understand if I came in here without ever posting in my life claiming a record but the fact of the matter is that I have posted EVERY SINGLE selection and tracked EVERY SINGLE selection at three other forums, if you just do a little looking you can see that. Thanks man for the kind words.

GL

williams22 · 10-13-09, 06:12 PM

Josh-
I like your reasoning, I think I'll stay away from the O/U.

On a different note, do you feel +3 (-129), +2.5 (-105), or Pk (+115) is the best play here? I feel like taking 2.5 points is a waste, so it's either +3 or Pk.

josh hamilton · 10-13-09, 06:17 PM

either put half on the +3 and half on the ML OR do as I did, and put it all on the ML.

GL