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  • Slanina
    SBR MVP
    • 01-21-09
    • 3828

    #71
    So youre down now and last two seasons showed a tidy profit. I'm jumping in. This ship is turning around! Lets do this.
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    • skyscrapers
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-02-11
      • 6168

      #72
      OK so I did some more backtesting for the last 8 years and came up with this...

      1H bet $550 to win $500
      2H bet $1,150 to win $1,050
      1H PUSH 2H NO ACTION
      Half-loss means 1H LOSS and 2H PUSH

      2013-2014 (29-6) +$4,300
      2012-2013 (30-5) +$6,500
      2011-2012 (31-2-2) +$12,100
      2010-2011 (22-9 and 1 half-loss) -$4,850 <- 3 games no data
      2009-2010 (22-8-2 and 1 half-loss) -$3,150 <- 3 games no data
      2008-2009 (23-3-1) +$6,400 <- 7 games no data
      2007-2008 (19-8) -$4,100 <- 5 games no data
      2006-2007 (18-7-2) -$2,900 <- 5 games no data
      8-year TOTAL (194-48-7 and 2 half-losses) +$14,300

      As you can see some bowl games I'm unable to find line histories so they are not included in the figures.
      Although this system shows long-term profit but year over year be prepared to win big or lose big. Not the most reliable of systems if you just play it for a year or two but in the long-haul should be able to make good $$$. Just my 2-cents.
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      • jtoler
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-17-13
        • 30967

        #73
        Originally posted by skyscrapers
        OK so I did some more backtesting for the last 8 years and came up with this...

        1H bet $550 to win $500
        2H bet $1,150 to win $1,050
        1H PUSH 2H NO ACTION
        Half-loss means 1H LOSS and 2H PUSH

        2013-2014 (29-6) +$4,300
        2012-2013 (30-5) +$6,500
        2011-2012 (31-2-2) +$12,100
        2010-2011 (22-9 and 1 half-loss) -$4,850 <- 3 games no data
        2009-2010 (22-8-2 and 1 half-loss) -$3,150 <- 3 games no data
        2008-2009 (23-3-1) +$6,400 <- 7 games no data
        2007-2008 (19-8) -$4,100 <- 5 games no data
        2006-2007 (18-7-2) -$2,900 <- 5 games no data
        8-year TOTAL (194-48-7 and 2 half-losses) +$14,300

        As you can see some bowl games I'm unable to find line histories so they are not included in the figures.
        Although this system shows long-term profit but year over year be prepared to win big or lose big. Not the most reliable of systems if you just play it for a year or two but in the long-haul should be able to make good $$$. Just my 2-cents.
        So a loss is when a 1st half goes over and a 2nd half goes over Id imagine. So you have to basically hit at least 80-85% of the games to make a profit it seems, doesnt seem worth it, youre gambling on this being a year that its profitable. But over 8 years its been profitable, like you said seems like a long term thing and perhaps tapping into it for a year is risky, good work by you Sky, how in the heck did you find 1st half and 2nd half lines for all those years, find it on SBR? Anyway good luck to any of you guys trying it this year, good luck OP.
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        • Eddy Munny
          Benched
          • 08-13-13
          • 15769

          #74
          If we're being completely honest about this system, OP should deduct an extra $550 from the balance sheet, which is already in the negative. If the goal is to make one unit ($500) on every game, hence the doubling up at halftime if the 1H loses, then a 1H push would simply warrant a $550 wager on the 2H, since that would net a unit. OP is being disingenuous about this because he's trying to salvage the system's, as well as his own, credibility.

          But whatever the case, I can assure you he's not betting real money. He acted like he was caught off guard when someone posed the question about a 1H half push, as if it was a hypothetical... but the truth is, a push already had occurred, and the OP never clarified his actions regarding such until long after the outcome had been decided.

          Furthermore, he states he'll get us caught up on the system's current figure when he gets a chance, which begs the question, if you're betting your own money on this, wouldn't you know dollar total right off hand? I don't think anybody is just casually throwing down $550-$1100 bets without diligently tracking the progress. He sure was quick to remind us of the profit margins when the system was working, but suddenly, when things went south, he became a bit "too busy" to provide updates.

          I suspect he's been betting air all this time... or perhaps much smaller units then stated.
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          • crackerjack
            SBR MVP
            • 08-01-06
            • 3366

            #75
            Thank you for exposing this fraud. I'll go get the tar, you go get the feathers...
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            • Eddy Munny
              Benched
              • 08-13-13
              • 15769

              #76
              No problem Crackerjack man. Nobody deserves to be fleeced on Christmas. Husker36 is doing his best "Grinch" impersonation and that's an insult to the SBR community.
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              • crackerjack
                SBR MVP
                • 08-01-06
                • 3366

                #77
                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                No problem Crackerjack man. Nobody deserves to be fleeced on Christmas. Husker36 is doing his best "Grinch" impersonation and that's an insult to the SBR community.
                If you're dumb enough to bet an unproven system blindly or believe that someone is really betting units of $500 on said system, you're kind of asking to be fleeced, no?
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                • Husker36
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-02-08
                  • 3846

                  #78
                  You act like $500 is a lot of money lol. I guarantee that most betters on here including myself are betting more than $500 a game. Unless you are a broke college student betting for fun...... there is no point in making $20 bets. Im sure $500 is an average on here. I personally dont know anyone that bets less than $200 a game
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                  • skyscrapers
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-02-11
                    • 6168

                    #79
                    There were 7 times over the last 8 years where the 1H truly ended in a Push. That is when all books have the same closing line that I can find infomation for. Of the 7 Pushes, 5 of them went Under in the 2H and won, 1 went Over and lost. The other 1 Pushed again. So the numbers suggest to continue to play the 2H on a 1H Push to maximize profit and maintain the integrity of the system. Again my 2-cents.
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                    • jtoler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-17-13
                      • 30967

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Husker36
                      You act like $500 is a lot of money lol. I guarantee that most betters on here including myself are betting more than $500 a game. Unless you are a broke college student betting for fun...... there is no point in making $20 bets. Im sure $500 is an average on here. I personally dont know anyone that bets less than $200 a game
                      No way bro the average person here is betting over 5 bills a game, not even one tenth of that you should know that, its all relative though, 500 can be alot to one person and simply not alot to another.
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                      • Husker36
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-02-08
                        • 3846

                        #81
                        Originally posted by jtoler
                        No way bro the average person here is betting over 5 bills a game, not even one tenth of that you should know that, its all relative though, 500 can be alot to one person and simply not alot to another.
                        I agree. I remember when they were freaking out about Michael Jordans bets.....snd when I did the calculation he was betting the same ratio as a person betting $200 making 80k a year.
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                        • Husker36
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-02-08
                          • 3846

                          #82
                          Originally posted by skyscrapers
                          There were 7 times over the last 8 years where the 1H truly ended in a Push. That is when all books have the same closing line that I can find infomation for. Of the 7 Pushes, 5 of them went Under in the 2H and won, 1 went Over and lost. The other 1 Pushed again. So the numbers suggest to continue to play the 2H on a 1H Push to maximize profit and maintain the integrity of the system. Again my 2-cents.
                          Ok. So push and we should rebet 1 unit under for second half.
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                          • Eddy Munny
                            Benched
                            • 08-13-13
                            • 15769

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Husker36
                            Ok. So push and we should rebet 1 unit under for second half.
                            This clown continues making this sh!t up as he goes along... Now he confirms you should bet the 2H Under if the 1H pushes. But wait a second, I thought he'd been using this system for years, right? Shouldn't he have already worked out the details of a system he's been employing for years to make $5000-$10,000? How is it that this slipped right by him?

                            OP knows less about this system then some random poster, but he expects us all to believe it's a bulletproof scheme he's always used to rake in the dough... LMAO!

                            Husker36 is betting so much air, he's gonna need an oxygen tank to make up the deficit.

                            SCAM ALERT!!!

                            SCAM ALERT!!!

                            SCAM ALERT!!!
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                            • skyscrapers
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-02-11
                              • 6168

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Husker36
                              Ok. So push and we should rebet 1 unit under for second half.
                              Ya I would do that. Even if you lose you lose only 1 unit which basically you can recuperate with your next win.
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                              • skyscrapers
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-02-11
                                • 6168

                                #85
                                Betting $500 is very high for any chase system. You would hit the bookie limit on your second leg on some books especially with these less-popular 1H/2H bets. With 4-game chases $10 or $20 is not uncommon.
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                                • Husker36
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-02-08
                                  • 3846

                                  #86
                                  Friday- Ill/Ltech under 28.5
                                  NC UNDER 34
                                  Nc st/ucf under 24.5
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                                  • cutlerfan
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-24-10
                                    • 212

                                    #87
                                    So this system right now down about 3100 so far this year? 7-12 if I count right?
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                                    • skyscrapers
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-02-11
                                      • 6168

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by cutlerfan
                                      So this system right now down about 3100 so far this year? 7-12 if I count right?
                                      No, where did you get 12 losses??
                                      Not counting the UCF game that's currently on right now his system is 8-4 down about -2,600
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                                      • skyscrapers
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 05-02-11
                                        • 6168

                                        #89
                                        Make that 8-5 now...
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                                        • Eddy Munny
                                          Benched
                                          • 08-13-13
                                          • 15769

                                          #90
                                          Losing money hand over fist is no way to transition into the new year.

                                          SCAM ALERT!!!
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                                          • cutlerfan
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 09-24-10
                                            • 212

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by skyscrapers
                                            Make that 8-5 now...
                                            Because every loss equates to 3 losses.

                                            Take this scenario: If I win 3 straight games where first half is under, at $500, I'm up $1500. In game 4, first half goes over (-$550) and I double up 2h and lose (-$1100), the games are 3-1 but I'm down $150. I was counting bets, not games. You have to win 4 out of 5 games to be profitable, that's just not sustainable.
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                                            • TCU
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 01-09-12
                                              • 88

                                              #92
                                              Why chase? If you're just playing each game/half individually, you'd be up.
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                                              • skyscrapers
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-02-11
                                                • 6168

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by TCU
                                                Why chase? If you're just playing each game/half individually, you'd be up.
                                                I agree with you on that. You'll win less but lose less with less risk involved.
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                                                • Eddy Munny
                                                  Benched
                                                  • 08-13-13
                                                  • 15769

                                                  #94
                                                  What happened? Was the OP abducted by aliens?

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                                                  • MTek
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-18-08
                                                    • 1381

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                    Losing money hand over fist is no way to transition into the new year.

                                                    SCAM ALERT!!!
                                                    Been on and off this board for years.... Your "SCAM ALERT" reminds me of the movie mean girls ... "So fetch" just isn't going to catch on
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                                                    • Eddy Munny
                                                      Benched
                                                      • 08-13-13
                                                      • 15769

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by MTek
                                                      Been on and off this board for years.... Your "SCAM ALERT" reminds me of the movie mean girls ... "So fetch" just isn't going to catch on
                                                      Seems to have caught on with OP and his minions... they all bailed on this money disposal system.
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                                                      • skyscrapers
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-02-11
                                                        • 6168

                                                        #97
                                                        I honestly don't know what you are again and again referring to as a Scam. If you don't like what the OP is posting then so be it but what Scam is there? Numbers don't lie. Decent long-term system but bad start to this year and this year is not even finished yet and you're jumping to conclusions.

                                                        Advice to OP: do you're homework first (ie. backtests) before you present any future systems
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                                                        • navyblue81
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-29-13
                                                          • 4143

                                                          #98
                                                          This is a system that used to work in the past and still works with slow style offenses. The problem is too many teams run a high paced-offense in today's college game. I actually did this a few years ago and won some dough. But the last couple years you have too many teams running no-huddle offenses that it's not worth it.
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                                                          • Eddy Munny
                                                            Benched
                                                            • 08-13-13
                                                            • 15769

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by skyscrapers
                                                            I honestly don't know what you are again and again referring to as a Scam. If you don't like what the OP is posting then so be it but what Scam is there? Numbers don't lie. Decent long-term system but bad start to this year and this year is not even finished yet and you're jumping to conclusions.

                                                            Advice to OP: do you're homework first (ie. backtests) before you present any future systems
                                                            Well, if you have to go back eight friggin years to validate a system's profits, then I don't think it's worth anyone's time. Most people aren't on an eight year plan... Call me impatient, but if a "bowl system" doesn't yield a profit at the conclusion of this year's bowl games, then what's the use? I'm not waiting for damn near a decade to get a return on my sportsbetting investment.

                                                            Let's look at it realistically... on a year by year basis, this system is profitable about 50% of the time. In other words, in the last 8 years, the system has turned a profit 4 times, and a net loss the other 4. Fifty percent... Whoopty freakin' doo! I can flip a coin and expect a 50% success rate. Any system that can't defeat a coin flip is pretty useless.

                                                            And this isn't even taking into account all the games for which you could not procure any data... which skews the veracity of the system itself.

                                                            Since this system is currently spinning it's wheels, here in the ninth year of it's tracking, it is dangerously close to falling to 4-5 unless things get turned around in a hurry. At that point, we'll be talking about a system that's profiting at a 44% clip... in which case, I'd literally rather have my money on the flip of a coin, or at least a hand of blackjack, which would provide me a greater chance of winning.

                                                            SCAM ALERT!!!

                                                            SCAM ALERT!!!

                                                            SCAM ALERT!!!
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                                                            • loodachris99
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 11-04-11
                                                              • 414

                                                              #100
                                                              While I don't think much of is as a "system" there is money to be made by selectively playing 1h unders in these bowl games... I've done pretty well so far this year and I'm the furthest thing from a "solid capper"
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                                                              • skyscrapers
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 05-02-11
                                                                • 6168

                                                                #101
                                                                This year has been a really bad year for your system.
                                                                12 series losses already. By far the most in the past 9 years and no hope of making any profit this year down 8K.
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                                                                • TheMagicMan
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 07-18-13
                                                                  • 267

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Yes, this bowl season crushed this system. I jumped in early got crushed one day and stopped. Glad I did.
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                                                                  • Eddy Munny
                                                                    Benched
                                                                    • 08-13-13
                                                                    • 15769

                                                                    #103
                                                                    This is your classic get broke quick scheme.






                                                                    SCAM ALERT!!!
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                                                                    • BigdaddyQH
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-13-09
                                                                      • 19530

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Read and learn amateurs. If there were a system that consistantly won, Vegas would NOT allow it to be played in their books. Sure some off the wall system can hit for a year or two, but they all eventually lose money, just like the suckers that followed this fool and his system. He lost way more than he made using this system, and that is what normally happens.
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