Won with Ball State the last two weeks, will take them again tonight

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  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #1
    Won with Ball State the last two weeks, will take them again tonight
    I've looked at this matchup for three hours now. Here's what I've concluded:

    -Keith Wenning will throw for more than 315 yards for Ball State
    -David Fluellen will rush for more than 200 yards for Toledo
    -Ball State will control time of possession
    -Toledo will get great special teams play and get at least 1 INT
    -Combination of Scott/Edwards will rush for more than 150 yards for Ball State
    -Toledo's defense will be wore down in the 4th Qtr by Ball State's balance
    -The backdoor cover WILL be in play in this game for Ball State, if they don't keep it close.

    Final Score:
    Ball State 31
    Toledo 35

    Ball State is 12-3 ATS in their last 15 games and 4-1 ATS on the road this year.

    BALL STATE +6.5
  • Machine Choice
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-08
    • 3997

    #2
    Couple more notes for tonight:

    -Toledo is in a look-ahead spot to 9-1 Northern Illinois next week, especially since Toledo beat Ball St last year.

    -Ball State more motivated in this game, going up against a top-25 team and with revenge angle

    -Toledo has benefited from 5 pick-sixes in their last 5 games, as well as a three special teams returns for TDs. If those types of scores don't happen for them tonight, Ball State will win this game outright. I don't like to depend on flukey scores.

    -Toledo only led Central Mich 40-35 with 3 minutes to play.

    -Toledo trailed Buffalo 14-7 at halftime.

    -Toledo beat Cinci on a pick-six and kick return for a TD. Cinci should have won the game.

    -Toledo allowed Eastern Michigan's RB Hill to pile up 283 rushing yards a couple weeks ago.
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    • kbm222
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-13-09
      • 618

      #3
      Could not agree more. Love +6.5 and now close to pulling the trigger on money line +220. GL!
      Nov 06 08:40 AM
      by: INTERNET37678188
      CFB
      Nov 06 08:05 PMSTRAIGHT BET
      [101] BALL STATE +6½-110
      385/350
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      • okbyme123
        SBR Hustler
        • 05-07-12
        • 88

        #4
        Originally posted by Machine Choice
        I've looked at this matchup for three hours now. Here's what I've concluded:

        -Keith Wenning will throw for more than 315 yards for Ball State
        -David Fluellen will rush for more than 200 yards for Toledo
        -Ball State will control time of possession
        -Toledo will get great special teams play and get at least 1 INT
        -Combination of Scott/Edwards will rush for more than 150 yards for Ball State
        -Toledo's defense will be wore down in the 4th Qtr by Ball State's balance
        -The backdoor cover WILL be in play in this game for Ball State, if they don't keep it close.

        Final Score:
        Ball State 31
        Toledo 35

        Ball State is 12-3 ATS in their last 15 games and 4-1 ATS on the road this year.

        BALL STATE +6.5
        Great analysis!
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        • ridims
          SBR MVP
          • 11-15-10
          • 3863

          #5
          wow now this is useful stuff. thanks
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          • Lockitup_Panda
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-27-11
            • 175

            #6
            line up to 7, should move another half point before kickoff.
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            • ridims
              SBR MVP
              • 11-15-10
              • 3863

              #7
              Originally posted by Lockitup_Panda
              line up to 7, should move another half point before kickoff.
              where do you see that? i see 6.5 everywhere
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              • ridims
                SBR MVP
                • 11-15-10
                • 3863

                #8
                ball state been on the road the last couple weeks. this is the 3rd road game in a row, any of you guys worried about this?
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                • Pat McCrotch
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-08-11
                  • 814

                  #9
                  Im taking Toledo ML
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                  • Urbanwildlife
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-06-11
                    • 5958

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ridims
                    ball state been on the road the last couple weeks. this is the 3rd road game in a row, any of you guys worried about this?
                    My number one antagonist, my struggles in winning plays continues so can you help me out with some winners? Also, this struggling player would like for you to check your inbox. I found it kind of humorous that you never responded to my last message to you, but it is understandable why! I still would like to see some screen shots of your plays, so can you provide that to us?
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                    • ridims
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-15-10
                      • 3863

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Urbanwildlife
                      My number one antagonist, my struggles in winning plays continues so can you help me out with some winners? Also, this struggling player would like for you to check your inbox. I found it kind of humorous that you never responded to my last message to you, but it is understandable why! I still would like to see some screen shots of your plays, so can you provide that to us?
                      funny i never read it. not worth the time to be honest. .. your a born loser. natural loser actually. the struggling sbr member who feels the need to send pm's to people because he cannot handle the truth about how much of a loser he actually is.

                      priceless.

                      just a suggestion to you. go meet people outside of this forum. make friends. spend time doing something else because its obvious you have issues within your life. do something productive.

                      good bye!
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                      • Urbanwildlife
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-06-11
                        • 5958

                        #12
                        I am sure you read my messages, so now post some screen shots of your picks. Several on here know who I am and where I reside, so no need for me to have to be someone I am not, as my actions speak my words, unlike you. Has your Avon sales picked up yet, to the point you can actually make a play? Have you moved out of your mom and dads basement yet? Now that is what you call struggling, and I am being serious.
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                        • Dom177
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-11-11
                          • 1080

                          #13
                          The back to back to back road games has me second guessing a little bit. Looking at the stats they are very similar, I'd give a slight edge to Toledo on defense (look at 3rd down conversion and red zone %) and a little more of an edge based on their offense playing at home. Good spot to tease Ball State up to 14 right now and leave one spot open for tomorrow's MAC game, NBA total or NFL game. That's my game plan anyways.
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                          • surffreak
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-10-10
                            • 211

                            #14
                            Toledo has finally gotten ranked inside the BCS, Toledo will be a mad house tonight and there stadium will be insane as well. I do not see them losing or winning by less than a TD. Ive seen what toledos stadium looks like when its packed. No way ball state goes in their and get a win.
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                            • Inspirited
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-26-10
                              • 1789

                              #15
                              i'm on u69 if it's 35-31.
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                              • Surebet
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 05-29-08
                                • 691

                                #16
                                Originally posted by surffreak
                                Toledo has finally gotten ranked inside the BCS, Toledo will be a mad house tonight and there stadium will be insane as well. I do not see them losing or winning by less than a TD. Ive seen what toledos stadium looks like when its packed. No way ball state goes in their and get a win.
                                I agree. Going with the spread: Ball State at Toledo Toledo -6.5 Best of Luck!!!
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                                • Machine Choice
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-12-08
                                  • 3997

                                  #17
                                  A lot of people may stay home to watch election returns. Is the stadium really going to be a madhouse for BALL STATE?
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                                  • surffreak
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-10-10
                                    • 211

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                    A lot of people may stay home to watch election returns. Is the stadium really going to be a madhouse for BALL STATE?
                                    In toledo..... yes
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                                    • SamDiamond
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-19-12
                                      • 6107

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                      A lot of people may stay home to watch election returns. Is the stadium really going to be a madhouse for BALL STATE?
                                      Do you follow the MAC? The place will be wild.

                                      One small angle you left out. The game is on national tv. And any perception you had about Ball State being "more motivated" is wrong. Toledo will not be flat. Not with a national television audience.
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                                      • ridims
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-15-10
                                        • 3863

                                        #20
                                        bout a 3 1/2 hour drive between the two schools
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                                        • Stack-N-Chips
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 11-05-12
                                          • 144

                                          #21
                                          Toledo rolls in this one


                                          Ball St 28
                                          Toledo 42
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                                          • bane
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-14-12
                                            • 630

                                            #22
                                            I didn't know there was such a thing as Tues night college ball.
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                                            • Axis
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-08-09
                                              • 1255

                                              #23
                                              One thing I don't understand is how you predict Ball St. will control the time of possession, yet have Toledo rushing for 200 yards...would that not incur a lot of time on their behalf?

                                              I'm rolling with Ball St...and with both teams rushing the ball well, I think that always the score to stay closer.
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                                              • xetsr
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 10-29-12
                                                • 483

                                                #24
                                                Toledo is in the top 25 for the first time in 11 years. I just don't see Ball State more motivated than Toledo..
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                                                • Stack-N-Chips
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 11-05-12
                                                  • 144

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Machine Choice
                                                  I've looked at this matchup for three hours now. ....BALL STATE +6.5



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                                                  • Bmoredd
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 07-02-12
                                                    • 205

                                                    #26
                                                    Thanks Machine, great info and analysis
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                                                    • Machine Choice
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-12-08
                                                      • 3997

                                                      #27
                                                      Looks like almost all predictions came to be except the actual outright winner.
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                                                      • Machine Choice
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-12-08
                                                        • 3997

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by SamDiamond
                                                        Do you follow the MAC? The place will be wild.

                                                        One small angle you left out. The game is on national tv. And any perception you had about Ball State being "more motivated" is wrong. Toledo will not be flat. Not with a national television audience.
                                                        Get it back tomorrow, Diamond.
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                                                        • GChild
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-11-10
                                                          • 3885

                                                          #29
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