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  • JoshKnows46
    SBR MVP
    • 07-27-12
    • 3691

    #1
    JoshKnows MMA: 8/4 - 9/22
    Lyoto Machida -330 $400 to win $121.21

    Ben Henderson -160 $500 to win $312.50
    Ben Henderson -170 $500 to win $294.12

    Parlay:
    Ben Henderson -160
    Joseph Benavidez -280
    Lyoto Machida -330
    Jon Jones -650
    $300 to win $942.28

    Parlay:
    Brandon Vera +300
    Ben Henderson -160
    Joseph Benavidez -280
    Lyoto Machida -330
    Jon Jones -650

    $120 to win $1435.55

    Ed Herman +160 $240 to win $384

    Stefan Struve +210 $120 to win $252


  • gabe
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-12-11
    • 7405

    #2
    Nice plays, apart from Struve.
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    • JoshKnows46
      SBR MVP
      • 07-27-12
      • 3691

      #3
      Originally posted by gabe
      Nice plays, apart from Struve.
      Thanks bruh. i'll admit stuve is my least confident pick of the bunch, he should be the dog in this fight, but not by this much....with his length, reach, bottom game, HEART(we've seen him come back from some brutal beatings), he's a match-up problem for lots of guys in the wieght class, just hard to find guys built like him to train with(ala jon jones light, in a sense). he's dangerous where ever the fight goes, and I like my chances at +210 for a bill 20. not to mention, he improves leaps and bounds each time we see him fight, and puts a little more muscle mass on each time, and he seems to be getting smarter as far as gameplans go. overall he's a guy i like my money on cus he always comes to fight ala nick diaz, condit(exept for last fight), jds, certain people i dont mind gambling a little even if i believe there opponet has a slight edge.
      Last edited by JoshKnows46; 07-27-12, 05:08 AM.
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      • AdamB
        SBR High Roller
        • 07-10-12
        • 197

        #4
        I love the Jones/Bendo/Machida/Benavidez parlay. Tailed you on that, except my book doesn't have odds for Benavidez at the moment so I've just got the other 3 unfortunately. I'd personally be hitting Benavidez SU even at those odds.
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        • gabe
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-12-11
          • 7405

          #5
          I'm laying off both Shogun and Machida for the FOX card. I don't think you can count Bader out, especially considering his good cardio and the fact that Machida gassed out after 1 round with Jon Jones, and a round he won, too.
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          • sideloaded
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-21-10
            • 7561

            #6
            Stefan Struve is a can
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            • getlucky2win
              SBR MVP
              • 01-14-12
              • 1116

              #7
              Originally posted by gabe
              I'm laying off both Shogun and Machida for the FOX card. I don't think you can count Bader out, especially considering his good cardio and the fact that Machida gassed out after 1 round with Jon Jones, and a round he won, too.
              why u say machida gassed? i didnt really c it
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              • gabe
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-12-11
                • 7405

                #8
                Originally posted by getlucky2win
                why u say machida gassed? i didnt really c it
                Because he was slow, breathing heavy, and Jones took advantage. You could see how tired he was at the start of round 2.
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                • DeFactoCrippler
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-30-12
                  • 2603

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gabe
                  Because he was slow, breathing heavy, and Jones took advantage. You could see how tired he was at the start of round 2.
                  Yeah you could see a definite change and him slowing down in the second. After the fight the claimed illness. Flu or some shit.
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                  • getlucky2win
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-14-12
                    • 1116

                    #10
                    i watched that fight at a poker game and didnt hear about any illness. im def goin2 rewatch it. i didnt think machida deserved a rematch but if he was sick and beats bader easily i can c it.
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                    • Crassus
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-08-12
                      • 1538

                      #11
                      I'm big on Machida. I just can't see where Bader wins, I don't think he can take him down and Machida is just gonna tear him apart standing. Maybe he can wall and stall like Rampage did...
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                      • gabe
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-12-11
                        • 7405

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Crassus
                        I'm big on Machida. I just can't see where Bader wins, I don't think he can take him down and Machida is just gonna tear him apart standing. Maybe he can wall and stall like Rampage did...
                        Well if he gases again in the 2nd, Bader can take him down and win 2 rounds.
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                        • Crassus
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-08-12
                          • 1538

                          #13
                          Originally posted by gabe
                          Well if he gases again in the 2nd, Bader can take him down and win 2 rounds.
                          True...I'm guessing I'll buy Machida's excuse of being sick. He wasn't too gassed at the end of the Rampage fight and he didn't seem too bad during Shogun I. I've seen some pics from training camp and the dude is in good shape for this fight.
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                          • Beelzebubzy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-06-11
                            • 6995

                            #14
                            Bader has good cardio?
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                            • gabe
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-12-11
                              • 7405

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                              Bader has good cardio?
                              He can go three rounds without gassing, so...yeah?
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                              • Crassus
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-08-12
                                • 1538

                                #16
                                Originally posted by gabe
                                He can go three rounds without gassing, so...yeah?
                                Machida's gone most of his fights without gassing, so I don't think it's fair to say he has bad cardio because of one poor performance.

                                Sort of like how I'm not taking how Bader got knocked out by Tito Ortiz into account.
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                                • gabe
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-12-11
                                  • 7405

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Crassus
                                  Machida's gone most of his fights without gassing, so I don't think it's fair to say he has bad cardio because of one poor performance.

                                  Sort of like how I'm not taking how Bader got knocked out by Tito Ortiz into account.
                                  Well, I didn't say he has bad cardio, I said he gassed after 1 round with Jon Jones. a) a round he won. b) it was his last fight

                                  Also, Tito submitted Bader. Who knows if he would have been able to end it with punches if he didn't go for the guillotine.
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                                  • Crassus
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-08-12
                                    • 1538

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by gabe
                                    Well, I didn't say he has bad cardio, I said he gassed after 1 round with Jon Jones. a) a round he won. b) it was his last fight

                                    Also, Tito submitted Bader. Who knows if he would have been able to end it with punches if he didn't go for the guillotine.
                                    Fair nuff, I'd say it's safe to say that Machida has good cardio though.

                                    Bader has stated that he was KO'ed and woke up in the guillotine.
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                                    • gabe
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-12-11
                                      • 7405

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Crassus
                                      Fair nuff, I'd say it's safe to say that Machida has good cardio though.

                                      Bader has stated that he was KO'ed and woke up in the guillotine.
                                      Yeah, I know, but if he wasn't guillotined, it's possible he could have defended/fought back and woken up while sitting in the corner between rounds.

                                      but in any case- you should take everything into account. it's possible machida could get a first round KO. combine what tito did to bader and what machida did to couture, it's not hard picturing the fight playing out a similar way.
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                                      • Rubber Guard
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-22-11
                                        • 1550

                                        #20
                                        Machida went 5 solid rounds with Shogun. I doubt he has gassing issues. He held down a fat, injured, unmotivated, asian ******* Rampage and everyone wants to act like he is a contender.

                                        Truth is, Bader's wrestling has never wow'd me.
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                                        • JoshKnows46
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-27-12
                                          • 3691

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by gabe
                                          Well if he gases again in the 2nd, Bader can take him down and win 2 rounds.
                                          machida apparently had the flu for that fight, but also he was fighting jon jones, you'd have to imagine it would take alot of energy just chasing him down and trying to get within reach to hit him, it has to be extremely tiring dealing with his reach, and wieght. we've seen many guys look exhusted fighting jon, by the time you figure him out your wore out, you get within reach and he uses his greco roman and body wieght to slam you down. just saying, i could see how fighting jon jones could wear you out more so than fighting someone else. machida has never had a conditioning problem, he has been in many 3 round fights, and a 5 round war with shogun. bader wont be able to take machida down, and machida should pick him apart on the feet.
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                                          • KushMoney
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 07-11-11
                                            • 658

                                            #22
                                            Machida gonna win a decision. Machida is very healthy and has MUCH more technical striking than Bader. Bader has to take him down and hold him there in order to win... but, as a matter of fact Machida is going to hurt Bader with standing strikes in each round.

                                            Bader via TKO/KO +600
                                            Bader via Sub +1500
                                            Bader via Decision +500

                                            Machida via TKO/KO -110
                                            Machida via Sub +450
                                            Machida via Decision -200
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                                            • JoshKnows46
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-27-12
                                              • 3691

                                              #23
                                              ADDED:

                                              Joe Lauzon -110 $330 to win $300
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                                              • gabe
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-12-11
                                                • 7405

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by KushMoney
                                                Machida gonna win a decision. Machida is very healthy and has MUCH more technical striking than Bader. Bader has to take him down and hold him there in order to win... but, as a matter of fact Machida is going to hurt Bader with standing strikes in each round.

                                                Bader via TKO/KO +600
                                                Bader via Sub +1500
                                                Bader via Decision +500

                                                Machida via TKO/KO -110
                                                Machida via Sub +450
                                                Machida via Decision -200
                                                Machida via sub +450? for me it's +1000
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                                                • JoshKnows46
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-27-12
                                                  • 3691

                                                  #25
                                                  Joe Lauzon and Machida Came through..
                                                  2-0 on Straight Plays/ +421.21
                                                  0-1 parlays/ -$120

                                                  +$301.21 on the night

                                                  lost my long shot parlay on vera, he put up a good fight, dont regret the play, but shogun was too much for him.
                                                  Last edited by JoshKnows46; 08-04-12, 10:14 PM.
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                                                  • JoshKnows46
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-27-12
                                                    • 3691

                                                    #26
                                                    ADDED:
                                                    Max Holloway +110 $100 to win $110
                                                    Max Holloway -105 $420 to win $400

                                                    Parlay:
                                                    Max Holoway -105
                                                    Ed Herman+165
                                                    Ben Henderson -190
                                                    Yushin Okami -570
                                                    $100 to win $828.23

                                                    ---------------------------------------------------------
                                                    Updated Card:
                                                    Ben Henderson -160 $500 to win $312.50
                                                    Ben Henderson -170 $500 to win $294.12

                                                    Max Holloway +110 $100 to win $110
                                                    Max Holloway -105 $420 to win $400

                                                    Ed Herman +160 $240 to win $384

                                                    Parlay:
                                                    Max Holoway -105
                                                    Ed Herman+165
                                                    Ben Henderson -190
                                                    Yushin Okami -570
                                                    $100 to win $828.23





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                                                    • MMAbetMASTA
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-24-11
                                                      • 1931

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                      ADDED:
                                                      Max Holloway +110 $100 to win $110
                                                      Max Holloway -105 $420 to win $400

                                                      Parlay:
                                                      Max Holoway -105
                                                      Ed Herman+165
                                                      Ben Henderson -190
                                                      Yushin Okami -570
                                                      $100 to win $828.23

                                                      ---------------------------------------------------------
                                                      Updated Card:
                                                      Ben Henderson -160 $500 to win $312.50
                                                      Ben Henderson -170 $500 to win $294.12

                                                      Max Holloway +110 $100 to win $110
                                                      Max Holloway -105 $420 to win $400

                                                      Ed Herman +160 $240 to win $384

                                                      Parlay:
                                                      Max Holoway -105
                                                      Ed Herman+165
                                                      Ben Henderson -190
                                                      Yushin Okami -570
                                                      $100 to win $828.23





                                                      That's a great parlay buddy, nice calls on that, agree 100% and think that has very legit chance to hit.. GL.
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                                                      • AdamB
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 07-10-12
                                                        • 197

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                        ADDED:
                                                        Max Holloway +110 $100 to win $110
                                                        Max Holloway -105 $420 to win $400

                                                        Parlay:
                                                        Max Holoway -105
                                                        Ed Herman+165
                                                        Ben Henderson -190
                                                        Yushin Okami -570
                                                        $100 to win $828.23

                                                        ---------------------------------------------------------
                                                        Updated Card:
                                                        Ben Henderson -160 $500 to win $312.50
                                                        Ben Henderson -170 $500 to win $294.12

                                                        Max Holloway +110 $100 to win $110
                                                        Max Holloway -105 $420 to win $400

                                                        Ed Herman +160 $240 to win $384

                                                        Parlay:
                                                        Max Holoway -105
                                                        Ed Herman+165
                                                        Ben Henderson -190
                                                        Yushin Okami -570
                                                        $100 to win $828.23





                                                        Nice parlays again mate, I have an ongoing one that needs Bendo and Herman to win to cash and another that needs Bendo and Jones - kind of limiting me for this event at the moment since I hate putting all my eggs in one basket, even with picks I feel strongly about. MMA can be a bitch like that.
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                                                        • DirtyX
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 06-05-11
                                                          • 686

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                          Stefan Struve is a can
                                                          Great post. Very insightful.

                                                          Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                          Lyoto Machida -330 $400 to win $121.21

                                                          Ben Henderson -160 $500 to win $312.50
                                                          Ben Henderson -170 $500 to win $294.12

                                                          Parlay:
                                                          Ben Henderson -160
                                                          Joseph Benavidez -280
                                                          Lyoto Machida -330
                                                          Jon Jones -650
                                                          $300 to win $942.28

                                                          Parlay:
                                                          Brandon Vera +300
                                                          Ben Henderson -160
                                                          Joseph Benavidez -280
                                                          Lyoto Machida -330
                                                          Jon Jones -650

                                                          $120 to win $1435.55

                                                          Ed Herman +160 $240 to win $384

                                                          Stefan Struve +210 $120 to win $252



                                                          I really like those plays man, very legit. Parlays aren't my thing, but those look solid from what I can tell. I am going big on Bendo as well, so GL to you.
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                                                          • Bsquared
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 08-07-12
                                                            • 2

                                                            #30
                                                            Great play with Herman. Hes on a roll with his last couple fights and I really think he can pull it off against Jake.
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                                                            • JoshKnows46
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-27-12
                                                              • 3691

                                                              #31
                                                              Thanks guys..gl to ya'll

                                                              ADDED:

                                                              Michael Kuiper -115 $230 to win $200
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                                                              • JoshKnows46
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-27-12
                                                                • 3691

                                                                #32
                                                                ON THE NIGHT:
                                                                Straight plays: 3-1 +$1,116.62
                                                                Parlays: 0-1 -$100
                                                                +$1,016.62

                                                                YEAR TO DATE:
                                                                5-1 on straight plays/ +$1537.83
                                                                0-2 parlays/ -$220
                                                                +$1317.83
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Great job bro
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                                                                  • ddream1
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 02-18-10
                                                                    • 695

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                                    ON THE NIGHT:
                                                                    Straight plays: 3-1 +$1,116.62
                                                                    Parlays: 0-1 -$100
                                                                    +$1,016.62

                                                                    YEAR TO DATE:
                                                                    5-1 on straight plays/ +$1537.83
                                                                    0-2 parlays/ -$220
                                                                    +$1317.83
                                                                    hey josh....good to see u over here...great cappers here. bol to the rest of the year
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                                                                    • gabe
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                                      • 7405

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                      Great job bro
                                                                      givin him a 'great job' for 3-1 but nothing to me for my 6-1? you're breakin' my heart, man. hurts.


                                                                      (even though i'm kidding, i bet people are gonna hate that i pointed out my beautiful night)
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